Eddie Howe

[Transpennine]

To be fair he's called both results correct tonight. Clarets win and wolves draw.

[bfcjg]

He brought some great players in, I just found him and his tactics bland.

[ClaretTony]

You really didn't like Eddie did you - but why ???

I didn't. I didn't like his football for starters but as a person, dealing with the supporters clubs, I found him to be very disrespectful and untruthful. I also saw him at events when the players were basically taking the mick out of him. I just found him to be very unpleasant, that was my experience of him.

But as a manager, I did not like the way we played football at all.

[Top Claret]

To be fair he's called both results correct tonight. Clarets win and wolves draw.

He is obviously better at predicting results than he was at managing Burnley

[bobinho]

What a horrible man. Choosing his families happiness over his job.

I think Ben was referring to the rumours that were abound at the time....

[joey13]

I didn't. I didn't like his football for starters but as a person, dealing with the supporters clubs, I found him to be very disrespectful and untruthful. I also saw him at events when the players were basically taking the mick out of him. I just found him to be very unpleasant, that was my experience of him.

But as a manager, I did not like the way we played football at all.

At least he let the players have their Christmas party in Brighton

[cricketfieldclarets]

Perhaps Rileybobs went Christmas shopping instead of going on the turf that day

Dont remind me of that song ffs

[ClaretTony]

At least he let the players have their Christmas party in Brighton

Thankfully I'd gone home after the game. I'd stayed on the Friday night.

[cricketfieldclarets]

I didn't. I didn't like his football for starters but as a person, dealing with the supporters clubs, I found him to be very disrespectful and untruthful. I also saw him at events when the players were basically taking the mick out of him. I just found him to be very unpleasant, that was my experience of him.

But as a manager, I did not like the way we played football at all.

But you shouldnt let that cloud your view of him as a manager.

Untruthful could be saying we were going down under him. Never was that ever going to happen. As above hes proved as good as our manager. And we were lucky to have both.

[Transpennine]

We were always a good bet for BTTS though...

[joey13]

Thankfully I'd gone home after the game. I'd stayed on the Friday night.

You missed a good night Tony , not often you get to meet the players in that environment, I’ll never forget Dorothy

[Papabendi]

I didn't. I didn't like his football for starters but as a person, dealing with the supporters clubs, I found him to be very disrespectful and untruthful. I also saw him at events when the players were basically taking the mick out of him. I just found him to be very unpleasant, that was my experience of him.

But as a manager, I did not like the way we played football at all.

It wouldn't be an Eddie Howe thread without Claret Tony telling us all how much he disliked him.

[Transpennine]

It wouldn't be an Eddie Howe thread without Claret Tony telling us all how much he disliked him.

I like him...

[ClaretTony]

You missed a good night Tony , not often you get to meet the players in that environment, I’ll never forget Dorothy

Brian Easton wasn't it Dorothy?

[ClaretTony]

It wouldn't be an Eddie Howe thread without Claret Tony telling us all how much he disliked him.

And it wouldn't be an Eddie Howe thread without you telling people I disliked him. I've explained why.

[Inchy]

Top bloke who cleared out a lot of the hangers on in the youth set up

[ClaretTony]

Top bloke who cleared out a lot of the hangers on in the youth set up

We all have our own opinions of him and I respect those of others. That is until I see absolute nonsense like this.

[jrgbfc]

Top bloke who cleared out a lot of the hangers on in the youth set up

[jrgbfc]

Knew you'd get a few bites with that one Inchy!

[TVC15]

I can imagine that lots of players and managers are completely different people when they are away from the cameras.....except Roy Keane who is no doubt as obnoxious in real life as he is on TV !

My perception of Howe is that he seems like a nice bloke whereas his other half Jason Tindall I always perceived to be the arrogant obnoxious one. I may be completely wrong.

Grateful to Howe because he brought some very good players to the club who have been instrumental to the success of the club.
Of course SD developed them into better players but some credit has got to go to Howe surely. The fact they did not play aswell under Howe is partly down to the way he managed the team and the tactics he was trying to adopt. Given what Howe went on to achieve at Bournemouth with players who were not as talented as Ings, Trippier, Mee etc then the evidence does suggest that given more time he could easily have gone on to succeed at Burnley.

To suggest that a manager who went on to do so well with a team of players who also went on to do so well were somehow heading for relegation does not make much sense to me.....but it’s all about opinions and as someone above said Howe going to Bournemouth worked out best for him and the club and 100% worked out best for us getting SD.

[cricketfieldclarets]

I can imagine that lots of players and managers are completely different people when they are away from the cameras.....except Roy Keane who is no doubt as obnoxious in real life as he is on TV !

My perception of Howe is that he seems like a nice bloke whereas his other half Jason Tindall I always perceived to be the arrogant obnoxious one. I may be completely wrong.

Grateful to Howe because he brought some very good players to the club who have been instrumental to the success of the club.
Of course SD developed them into better players but some credit has got to go to Howe surely. The fact they did not play aswell under Howe is partly down to the way he managed the team and the tactics he was trying to adopt. Given what Howe went on to achieve at Bournemouth with players who were not as talented as Ings, Trippier, Mee etc then the evidence does suggest that given more time he could easily have gone on to succeed at Burnley.

To suggest that a manager who went on to do so well with a team of players who also went on to do so well were somehow heading for relegation does not make much sense to me.....but it’s all about opinions and as someone above said Howe going to Bournemouth worked out best for him and the club and 100% worked out best for us getting SD.

Spot on.

As for Tindall. My perception was the same as yours.

I then met him pre match before we played a game at home and we had a ground tour as part of a sponsorship. Howe wasn’t there. Presumably he was doing the press briefing given it was a big game and early kick off.

Tindall was actually very approachable. And had time for everyone. Well except for Andre bikey when we asked about his future.

[Inchy]

We all have our own opinions of him and I respect those of others. That is until I see absolute nonsense like this.

[Dyched]

Thing is with anyone like managers, players, musicians etc. It’s all about how you yourself approach them. If you approach them you make sure you do it politely. Whatever they do, doesn’t mean fans have the right to approach them. It also has to be in the right environment, things to take into consideration are things like if their busy, in a rush, talking etc. People base so many opinions on their behaviour without actually understanding your own.

So when people come away and say Paul McCartneys a cock, Eddie Howe’s an ignorant prat, Al Pacino’s a dick. Think about your own actions and what you did.

[Woodleyclaret]

Our defeat to Swindon when Charlie was yelling at Eddie "wheres the fxxxxng support as he was left upfront and Eddie and Jason both hiding in the dugout as we rolled over best some up Eddies quality
Never good enough to match our needs

[Culmclaret]

I am a great fan of SD but have heard from a very senior former employee that he is not a very easy person to work with. Can’t say that I am very bothered about that as he is a brilliant manager. As a very young manager coming from the lower leagues Eddie had to cope with experienced pros used to playing at a higher level and he clearly struggled with that before bringing in a fantastic crop of talent which he probably needed more time to mould. We will never know whether he would have succeeded. What we do know is that Sean did. I neither understand the demonisation nor sanctification of Howe. But I do wish him well as a manager who left us with a decent young squad.

[Papabendi]

And it wouldn't be an Eddie Howe thread without you telling people I disliked him. I've explained why.

You’ve explained why many times and I think we all get it. It might be a better look for you not to continually do so. As the guy running the shop, a bit of class at times would be appropriate.

[Boss Hogg]

Complimentary about us and certainly had an eye for a player. Put some of the foundations in place for subsequent success. We were not looking great on the pitch and there were rumblings about his job before he left. The football was kimikaze like and the defence had more holes in it than a Swiss cheese. Did he really leave the youth set up in a better place ? So some good aspects and some not so good. No hard feelings but selective memories from some.

[joey13]

Brian Easton wasn't it Dorothy?

It was Tony ,Charlie Austin was the puppet out of the Saw movies ,think Beast was Super Mario ,can’t remember any others ,Duffers kept them in order to a fashion .

[joey13]

Thing is with anyone like managers, players, musicians etc. It’s all about how you yourself approach them. If you approach them you make sure you do it politely. Whatever they do, doesn’t mean fans have the right to approach them. It also has to be in the right environment, things to take into consideration are things like if their busy, in a rush, talking etc. People base so many opinions on their behaviour without actually understanding your own.

So when people come away and say Paul McCartneys a cock, Eddie Howe’s an ignorant prat, Al Pacino’s a dick. Think about your own actions and what you did.

I can certify Nick Faldo is an ignorant prat and that has nothing to do with my own actions

[Sleeping Cat]

I liked Howe as a manager and as a person. Met him a few times at the club and he was always polite and easy to talk to. I think you could tell he wasn't quite sure of himself in his surroundings at times, compounded by difficulties in his personal life. Some forget how young he was when he was with us, I'm sure he would handle a move/transition to another club further away better now than he did at the time.

[Goodclaret]

I can imagine that lots of players and managers are completely different people when they are away from the cameras.....except Roy Keane who is no doubt as obnoxious in real life as he is on TV !

My perception of Howe is that he seems like a nice bloke whereas his other half Jason Tindall I always perceived to be the arrogant obnoxious one. I may be completely wrong.

Grateful to Howe because he brought some very good players to the club who have been instrumental to the success of the club.
Of course SD developed them into better players but some credit has got to go to Howe surely. The fact they did not play aswell under Howe is partly down to the way he managed the team and the tactics he was trying to adopt. Given what Howe went on to achieve at Bournemouth with players who were not as talented as Ings, Trippier, Mee etc then the evidence does suggest that given more time he could easily have gone on to succeed at Burnley.

To suggest that a manager who went on to do so well with a team of players who also went on to do so well were somehow heading for relegation does not make much sense to me.....but it’s all about opinions and as someone above said Howe going to Bournemouth worked out best for him and the club and 100% worked out best for us getting SD.

I know it's slightly off topic but as you mentioned Keane I thought I'd respond. I'm just reading his autobiography, "The Second Half". I actually chose it thinking it may change my mind of what an arrogant guy he appears to be but, if anything, it cements it even more. The fact he didn't allow the players, and more importantly, the fans have an open top bus tour after winning promotion in his first season made him look a right 4rse. He just doesn't seem to care about anyone but himself. The fact he can't make himself come across well in his own book really does show what he's like.

[TVC15]

I know it's slightly off topic but as you mentioned Keane I thought I'd respond. I'm just reading his autobiography, "The Second Half". I actually chose it thinking it may change my mind of what an arrogant guy he appears to be but, if anything, it cements it even more. The fact he didn't allow the players, and more importantly, the fans have an open top bus tour after winning promotion in his first season made him look a right 4rse. He just doesn't seem to care about anyone but himself. The fact he can't make himself come across well in his own book really does show what he's like.

Everything I see and hear about Roy Keane makes me think he’s got the demons....he couldn’t live with football and can’t live without it either. Just bitter about pretty much everything !

[martin_p]

I’m very ‘meh’ about Howe. I’ve never had such a non-reaction when he left, neither disappointed nor pleased. Of course in retrospect I’m absolutely delighted with his replacement (although I had a ‘meh’ response to that too at the time) so glad he went.

[AlargeClaret]

I’d almost forgot he’d managed us , he was ok and seemed a decent chap but the misty eyed whimsy people have for any ex players /managers is almost vomit inducing and that’s before they “ say something complimentary” and it’s almost vinegar strokes for some

[Steve1956]

Was it ? I thought that but wasn’t sure.
That game made me so angry - Jay was playing the best football of his life and god knows what Hodgson was doing that evening !

I may have dreamt this TVC,but didnt the same bloke have Harry Kane taking corner's at one tournament?

[TVC15]

I may have dreamt this TVC,but didnt the same bloke have Harry Kane taking corner's at one tournament?

I’d keep dreaming about Harry Kane to yourself Steve !

[Steve1956]

I’d keep dreaming about Harry Kane to yourself Steve !

[keith1879]

Three points above the bottom three, 22 goals conceded in 10 games. Some shambolic performances that season. I think there is a lot of evidence to suggest that at best we'd have just about survived.

I agree...we seemed to be on a fast track to nowhere....and it is surely significant that we didn't really get out of trouble until quite late in the season with the manager and (to a large extent) the team who went up 12 months later. The other thing that bugged me was that for a team who were supposedly too reliant on attack we were actually playing awful football.

This doesn't obscure the fact that Eddie Howe brought in some excellent players....signing Trippier and Mee alone was an extraordinary piece of business.