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Robbie Brady get him out of our club ffs
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Robbie Brady- nickname “ The Candle”. One blow, and he’s out.
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Can only think that it was worth risking bringing him off and defending it with Pieters than keep him on and risk injury.
Hopefully.
Jbg on the other hand was excellent.
Hopefully.
Jbg on the other hand was excellent.
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He was alright. Far short of excellent. Excellent is when you play really well.
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What do you want him to do? Cry? Karate chop a few chairs in the cricket field on his way off?
File alongside Tyrone mears team photo criticism.
File alongside Tyrone mears team photo criticism.
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I thought JBG was a big plus tonight , yes he should have scored but well done for getting into that position. Hopefully we’ll have him playing regularly from now on because he does make a difference
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Apart from failing to hit the target when totally unmarked 15 yards out. Could have put the game to bed instead of facing half an hour of almost constant pressure.
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Don't be a drama queen. You can look devastated without going to your extremes.dandeclaret wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:47 pmWhat do you want him to do? Cry? Karate chop a few chairs in the cricket field on his way off?
File alongside Tyrone mears team photo criticism.
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JBG is a good player and when back to full fitness and belief in that fitness can be a massive player (Similar to Brady in many ways). Whether either will get back to that level of fitness and consistency remains the biggest question.
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Me being a drama queen? You asked the question imagine looking like that at work.... when you get injured. It’s like looking devastated when you get blue screen if death....
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At his best JBG is a very good Premier League player and has a very good cross on him.Guller Bull wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:51 pmJBG is a good player and when back to full fitness and belief in that fitness can be a massive player (Similar to Brady in many ways). Whether either will get back to that level of fitness and consistency remains the biggest question.
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To me there's one huge similarity between Brady and JBG and that's their propensity to be almost always injured. But there's also a huge difference. JBG is a really,really good player and is not only extremely skillful and creative, but works his bits and bobs off tirelessly for the cause. And then there's Brady..... who is simply awful.Guller Bull wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:51 pmJBG is a good player and when back to full fitness and belief in that fitness can be a massive player (Similar to Brady in many ways). Whether either will get back to that level of fitness and consistency remains the biggest question.
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Well JBG was anything but excellent and missed that one big chance that could have left us not quite so anxious for half an hour. In fairness, Brady did well until the injury.cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:25 pmCan only think that it was worth risking bringing him off and defending it with Pieters than keep him on and risk injury.
Hopefully.
Jbg on the other hand was excellent.
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And then there is Brady who actually works as hard if not harder than JBGDark Cloud wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:58 pmTo me there's one huge similarity between Brady and JBG and that's their propensity to be almost always injured. But there's also a huge difference. JBG is a really,really good player and is not only extremely skillful and creative, but works his bits and bobs off tirelessly for the cause. And then there's Brady..... who is simply awful.
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I think the difference between the two is that JBG is a genuinely attack minded player who like to get the ball down and create.
I often feel with Brady that he is too often the architect of his own injuries by making silly challenges that he could stay away from. He seems to have lost his way in being the player he could be if he concentrated on what he is good at creatively.
I often feel with Brady that he is too often the architect of his own injuries by making silly challenges that he could stay away from. He seems to have lost his way in being the player he could be if he concentrated on what he is good at creatively.
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Jeez you're something. Its all relative. That man is paid over 30k a week consistently and has never looked bothered in 3 years or so of being here. If you think he is as committed as the likes of most of the players out there tonight then I don't know what to saydandeclaret wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:52 pmMe being a drama queen? You asked the question imagine looking like that at work.... when you get injured. It’s like looking devastated when you get blue screen if death....
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Pay is irrelevant. Being paid a lot doesn’t mean you’re immune to hamstring injuries.
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Granted but it should mean you give a toss about your job more.dandeclaret wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:04 pmPay is irrelevant. Being paid a lot doesn’t mean you’re immune to hamstring injuries.
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I appreciate that not everybody sees a game in the same way and similarly not everyone sees each player in the same way and it would be strange world if we did, but I do struggle with Brady as I can't see him giving us anything going forward and he's so lightweight tracking back and he just doesn't seem like a current Burnley side kind of player to me. If people claimed Stanislas was a "luxury show pony" then what's this guy? Just my opinion and I do get that others see far more from him than me.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:00 pmAnd then there is Brady who actually works as hard if not harder than JBG
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I don't think it is not about giving a toss, I just think his mentality is marked "fragile". When you have been injured so much it takes a hell of a while to get out of that mindset of fear. That fear increases the likelihood of recurrence because you play with tension. I don't think he is crap or indifferent but it's touch and go whether he will ever be the same player.DomBFC1882 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:06 pmGranted but it should mean you give a toss about your job more.
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Looking dejected at an injury doesn’t mean you give a toss or not. It’s a fact of life. Do you look dejected at work when something out of your control happens?DomBFC1882 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:06 pmGranted but it should mean you give a toss about your job more.
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Imagine how much better our squad would look with a couple of powerful wide players like Palace have. And then potentially having them as options on the bench to change games. Most of our bench is, unfortunately, made up of inferior players who weaken us when they come on.
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If you can't see the difference in terms of tracking back and work rate between Stanislas and BradyDark Cloud wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:07 pmI appreciate that not everybody sees a game in the same way and similarly not everyone sees each player in the same way and it would be strange world if we did, but I do struggle with Brady as I can't see him giving us anything going forward and he's so lightweight tracking back and he just doesn't seem like a current Burnley side kind of player to me. If people claimed Stanislas was a "luxury show pony" then what's this guy? Just my opinion and I do get that others see far more from him than me.
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JBG hit the bar at Anfield when we could have won that one.
Must have been harder to hit the bar twice than score twice.
Must have been harder to hit the bar twice than score twice.
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Stanislas made a far greater contribution to the football club than Brady has done. Wingers are there to create, not spend 90 mins tracking back helping the full back out.
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JBG is still sh1t
Brady still gets injured too often.
Surely we have someone in the youth team a better use of a shirt in the squad that one or both of them?
Maybe they just need half a chance
Brady still gets injured too often.
Surely we have someone in the youth team a better use of a shirt in the squad that one or both of them?
Maybe they just need half a chance
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Wry harsh. Think everyone played their part in a very solid performance tonight. All played their roles well. Should he have scored? Perhaps. But it’s not like he blazed it wise or over. Was literally an inch short. We’ve all been there.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:59 pmWell JBG was anything but excellent and missed that one big chance that could have left us not quite so anxious for half an hour. In fairness, Brady did well until the injury.
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Crap situation with Brady. Nothing to be done at all but it's not good when we're at the end of November, he keeps getting injured and he's somehow played more games for Ireland than for Burnley.
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Nothing against Brady. But I’d have Stanislas over him any day of the week.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:31 pmIf you can't see the difference in terms of tracking back and work rate between Stanislas and Brady
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Players are there to carry out orders from the manager. We use our wide players to track back. That's why Stanislas didn't get many games. Brady was a full back at one time so is much more adept at filling the wide role for Dyche - if only he were fit. Looking back, he never had an issue with fitness until that bad injury almost three years ago either.
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Players are there to carry out orders from the manager. We use our wide players to track back. That's why Stanislas didn't get many games. Brady was a full back at one time so is much more adept at filling the wide role for Dyche - if only he were fit. Looking back, he never had an issue with fitness until that bad injury almost three years ago either.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:50 pm[quote=jrgbfc post_id=<a href="tel:1423202">1423202</a> time=<a href="tel:1606163959">1606163959</a> user_id=2578]
Stanislas made a far greater contribution to the football club than Brady has done. Wingers are there to create, not spend 90 mins tracking back helping the full back out.
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The injury v Leicester was a real bad one, and he was out for almost a year. Obviously took a lot of getting over, and maybe he is suffering psychologically, but the reality of giving him a new contract, now seems questionable, as it appears we are a long way off getting any value at all from him. Looks like he is only ever going to be a very small bit player at best.
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Which is why Boyd and Arfield were so important, despite the fact that Boyd, in particular, got slagged off for a passtime on here.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:50 pmPlayers are there to carry out orders from the manager. We use our wide players to track back. That's why Stanislas didn't get many games. Brady was a full back at one time so is much more adept at filling the wide role for Dyche - if only he were fit. Looking back, he never had an issue with fitness until that bad injury almost three years ago either.
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I thought that JBG was poor tonight, nowhere near his form last season. Maybe he is still not fit or carrying an injury. I thought Lowton did not help either who was also poor on our right.
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I always thought the Premier League was a bit of a stretch too much for Scotty Arfield but undoubtedly both did terrifically well for us overall. To get Arfield on a free was incredible and what did we get, four years from him?boatshed bill wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:09 pmWhich is why Boyd and Arfield were so important, despite the fact that Boyd, in particular, got slagged off for a passtime on here.
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No denying that those two worked their "socks" of for us.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 9:58 pmI always thought the Premier League was a bit of a stretch too much for Scotty Arfield but undoubtedly both did terrifically well for us overall. To get Arfield on a free was incredible and what did we get, four years from him?
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Arfield was a top player. Id still have him. And delighted to see how well he is doing for Rangers. Yes I know the level is arguably much lower.
But a good player. A hard worker. And a great character.
But a good player. A hard worker. And a great character.
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Thought Lowton had a good game against their best player.
But again he is the new scapegoat after Hendrick departure .
Played his part in a back 5 (Pope included) which kept a clean sheet yet some posters marked him 4 or 5 —- Amazing
But again he is the new scapegoat after Hendrick departure .
Played his part in a back 5 (Pope included) which kept a clean sheet yet some posters marked him 4 or 5 —- Amazing
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JBG just doesn't seem to carry the same attacking threat anymore to me. Maybe it's all his injuries or he needs a good run of games to get his sharpness back I'm not sure. At present I'm not sure he's worth a new deal.
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Lowtons only issue was pace. But he got his body between the ball and man very well lots of times.DAVETHEVICAR wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:36 pmThought Lowton had a good game against their best player.
But again he is the new scapegoat after Hendrick departure .
Played his part in a back 5 (Pope included) which kept a clean sheet yet some posters marked him 4 or 5 —- Amazing
We need an upgrade but he was fine tonight. Especially as eze looks some player.