Maradona

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:53 pm

MACCA wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:11 pm
And probably a fair amount of cocaine too

Shock, Horror... arms raised in mock disbelief

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:54 pm

Outside of his dribbling ability. This is my lasting memory of him growing up. That celebration against Greece blew my mind as a kid!

JTClaret · Post by **JTClaret** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:55 pm

There's very little between him and Messi, absolute great, if not the greatest - and a complete nutcase.

Shame some can't see past a handball, yet wouldn't mention a handball for a good number of others... including not only Henry, but Messi as well.
Definitely not a case of being bitter: https://howtheyplay.com/team-sports/Top ... -Handballs

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:59 pm

JTClaret wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:55 pm
There's very little between him and Messi, absolute great, if not the greatest - and a complete nutcase.

Shame some can't see past a handball, yet wouldn't mention a handball for a good number of others... including not only Henry, but Messi as well.
Definitely not a case of being bitter: https://howtheyplay.com/team-sports/Top ... -Handballs

It’s usually bitter little englanders.

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:59 pm

Quite simply the greatest there has ever been, in my opinion.

RIP Diego. What a footballer.

expoultryboy · Post by **expoultryboy** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:00 pm

As most other England fans , I've always felt cheated by " the hand of god " . But as a footballer he's one of the greatest of all time , and can be put in the same bracket as : pele , best , cryuff , messi , Ronaldo and of course dean marney .

claret_in_exile · Post by **claret_in_exile** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:01 pm

His handball was my first footy memory. So, no, I can't see past it

. I'm not particularly sad about him passing as I never got the impression he was a good person - just a supremely talented footballer. I don't think we need to eulogize such characters, to be honest.

Considering the amount of blow he he did, 60's not a bad innings.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:03 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:47 pm
Not really. I still don’t believe he went to the moon.

Brilliant comeback

Stalbansclaret · Post by **Stalbansclaret** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:03 pm

A total genius of a footballer.....remember being excited watching him when he played for Argentina v England at Wembley in the 1980 friendly. The documentary, Maradona, which came out last year (on Netflix I think) is a fantastic watch, mainly focusing on his time at Napoli where he became a God to the locals whilst getting involved with some unsavoury people. Some of the footage is incredible, including some absolutely brutal treatment dished out by opposition defenders. Very sad that he is gone.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:13 pm

claret_in_exile wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:01 pm
His handball was my first footy memory. So, no, I can't see past it . I'm not particularly sad about him passing as I never got the impression he was a good person - just a supremely talented footballer. I don't think we need to eulogize such characters, to be honest.

Considering the amount of blow he he did, 60's not a bad innings.

There is plenty to read about his character which disputes that. Granted he definitely had his issues.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:14 pm

NIDGE 65 wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:33 pm
Suppose your a big fan of Lance Armstrong and Ben Johnson cricket field claret

Lance Armstrong was the better of the two imo.

MT03ALG · Post by **MT03ALG** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:21 pm

Maradona is in the hands of God, or is he ? Georgie Best died at the aged of 59.....

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:35 pm

Anyone who knows me well is aware of what I think about Maradona. Simply the greatest footballer of all time. Once he had the ball at his feet he came alive, incredible close control, pace and balance. Inspirational to a nation, a leader of average teams that became champions in their own right. And a team player as so well illustrated by the songs in the dressing room after victories in the '86 World Cup. RIP to a footballer in a league of his own.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:58 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:35 pm
Anyone who knows me well is aware of what I think about Maradona. Simply the greatest footballer of all time. Once he had the ball at his feet he came alive, incredible close control, pace and balance. Inspirational to a nation, a leader of average teams that became champions in their own right. And a team player as so well illustrated by the songs in the dressing room after victories in the '86 World Cup. RIP to a footballer in a league of his own.

Absolutely. The fact his own teammates (many of them rivals) loved him says it all. Same with the people of Naples.

claret54 · Post by **claret54** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:01 pm

Yes he could play. But I will always remember him as a cheat.

Untinted Glasses · Post by **Untinted Glasses** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:03 pm

Best ever player bar none. Sad day

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:18 pm

Very sad news, incredible player, one of the very best. RIP

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:22 pm

Ironically fifty years ago today Peter shilton made his england debut.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:24 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:59 pm
It’s usually bitter little englanders.

You know he was a drugs cheat aswell ?

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:26 pm

joey13 wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:24 pm
You know he was a drugs cheat aswell ?

Yep. He was no better than Graham Branch without them.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:36 pm

Dyched wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:26 pm
Yep. He was no better than Graham Branch without them.

Can’t remember Branchy being sent home from the World Cup , or going for that matter

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:43 pm

Sad. Great footballer but there was a dark side- there’s no ignoring the drugs and corruption. Not to mention the cheating.

Best ever? Not a chance -Pele for me

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:47 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:43 pm
Sad. Great footballer but there was a dark side- there’s no ignoring the drugs and corruption. Not to mention the cheating.

Best ever? Not a chance -Pele for me

And it's your prerogative to believe that

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:53 pm

joey13 wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:24 pm
You know he was a drugs cheat aswell ?

I can only assume Peter Reid and Peter shilton were on the drink!

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:56 pm

Very sad if true.

Wellsy1882 · Post by **Wellsy1882** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:58 pm

She was a damn good singer n all

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:01 pm

Wonderful player in his prime ,though all but a washed up coke headed drug cheat by 30 and bulk of his life after an alcoholic drug addled shambles of a man .He had it all as a player though and that’s what people will remember

Claret Toni · Post by **Claret Toni** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:09 pm

RIP Diego

..but I'm still minded of:

It's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:11 pm

A cheat and the nonsense about best of his generation is definitely a step too far.
Kempes was the best forward Argentina produced and he didn't used volleyball skills to score

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:14 pm

Diego , we will never see the likes again .
He was the greatest ever , so glad i got to see him play twice .

Sad day it really is .

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:15 pm

Diego , we will never see the likes again .
He was the greatest ever , glad to say i saw him play twice .

#10

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:23 pm

RIP. Up there with Pele.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:24 pm

ridiculous player in the right sense, ridiculous person in the other

timshorts · Post by **timshorts** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:24 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:11 pm
A cheat and the nonsense about best of his generation is definitely a step too far.
Kempes was the best forward Argentina produced and he didn't used volleyball skills to score

Neither did Maradona. That was a carry in volleyball terms. Not allowed.

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:29 pm

A very special player. One of a kind.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:32 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:11 pm
A cheat and the nonsense about best of his generation is definitely a step too far.
Kempes was the best forward Argentina produced and he didn't used volleyball skills to score

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:33 pm

joey13 wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:24 pm
You know he was a drugs cheat aswell ?

He was a drugs user, not a drugs cheat.

I don’t think Colombian marching powder has any positive impact on your ability to be a footballer.

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:38 pm

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Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:45 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:54 pm
Outside of his dribbling ability. This is my lasting memory of him growing up. That celebration against Greece blew my mind as a kid!

It was 4 days after this that he tested positive for the stimulant and weight loss drug ephedrine ...
I read a report of his death, and noted it's content, thanks

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:45 pm

BurnleyFC wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:33 pm
He was a drugs user, not a drugs cheat.

I don’t think Colombian marching powder has any positive impact on your ability to be a footballer.

Really , please enlighten me as to why he was sent home from 94 World Cup then ?

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:46 pm

joey13 wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:45 pm
Really , please enlighten me as to why he was sent home from 94 World Cup then ?

Fairly simply, because being coked off your head is illegal, not only in sport but in life.

It doesn’t give you any sporting advantage, though. It’s not a performance enhancing drug like steroids, for example.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:51 pm

BurnleyFC wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:46 pm
Fairly simply, because being coked off your head is illegal, not only in sport but in life.

It doesn’t give you any sporting advantage, though. It’s not a performance enhancing drug like steroids, for example.

So you don’t know why he was sent home from the 94 World Cup , here’s a tip for you ,when commenting on a subject it’s probably best to have some idea what you’re talking about .

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:01 pm

joey13 wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:51 pm
So you don’t know why he was sent home from the 94 World Cup , here’s a tip for you ,when commenting on a subject it’s probably best to have some idea what you’re talking about otherwise you tend to come across a bit dim

Apologies, just read up on the doping in 1994. He was still the greatest ever for me.

However - https://www.verywellfit.com/sports-supp ... ce-3119368

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:04 pm

BurnleyFC wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:01 pm
Apologies, just read up on the doping in 1994.

He was still the greatest ever for me.

So would you argue to reinstate Lance Armstrong’s Tour titles?

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:05 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:04 pm
So would you argue to reinstate Lance Armstrong’s Tour titles?

Yes, considering all elite cyclists are probably ‘at it’

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:14 pm

BurnleyFC wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:05 pm
Yes, considering all elite cyclists are probably ‘at it’

I would think less than 5% of footballers were doing illegal drugs. Lots of alcohol probably.

Cyclist was probably over 95% of them doing drugs.

One is a great, one a drugs cheat.

I don’t get this world sometimes.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:26 pm

A footballer taking drugs to enhance his performance is not even relatable to a cyclist doing it. What a stupid comparison.

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:36 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:38 pm
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Bravo. Amidst all the gushing, and the far more serious aspects of life today, something to laugh at!

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:37 pm

Dyched wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:26 pm
A footballer taking drugs to enhance his performance is not even relatable to a cyclist doing it. What a stupid comparison.

So you think it’s ok for footballers to take drugs to enhance their performance.

Lance would have won several Tours without doing drugs due to his natural talent.

Don’t don’t let get in the way of your prejudice.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:43 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:37 pm
So you think it’s ok for footballers to take drugs to enhance their performance.

Lance would have won several Tours without doing drugs due to his natural talent.

Don’t don’t let get in the way of your prejudice.

I didn’t say that.

How 1 footballer being guilty of taking banned substances (for weight loss and breathing) can influence a football match where there’s 27 other footballer’s available to play is nonsense. If 1 Burnley player this season decided to do it. Do you really think it’d make a jot of difference to the final outcome of our season? Would Barnes suddenly have the feet of Messi?

I know cycling is a team sport of such, but each individual can influence the result far easier by taking banned substances.