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Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:07 am
by IanMcL
My phone pinged and said £10 had been paid into my bank account.

Checked and there was Harold Wilson's continuing legacy!

£10 was a lot in the 60's. No Government dare remove it!

Thanks Harold. Merry Christmas to you too. We still have that white gear of technology. Seems to have melted the ice caps!

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:33 am
by LeadBelly
Not quite as good as the £200 (or whatever your Winter Fuel Payment is) gift from Mr Blair.

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:12 pm
by CleggHall
This gift (to buy a turkey!) was from Gordon Brown not Harold Wilson, the HP sauce Prime Minister died many moons ago.

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:12 pm
by mkmel
IanMcL wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:07 am
My phone pinged and said £10 had been paid into my bank account.

Checked and there was Harold Wilson's continuing legacy!

£10 was a lot in the 60's. No Government dare remove it!

Thanks Harold. Merry Christmas to you too. We still have that white gear of technology. Seems to have melted the ice caps!
Is that a cold weather payment Ian?

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:15 pm
by CleggHall
Sorry it came in 1972 under Sir Edward Heath’s government.

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:17 pm
by Tribesmen
Hey something like €2163 when you reach the age od 100 here in Ireland , and before you ask i still have a long way to go .

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:23 pm
by IanMcL
mkmel wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:12 pm
Is that a cold weather payment Ian?
Ha!

No that comes soon, too.

Surely you remember Harold Wilson's Christmas box to tge nation's pensioners, Mel?

No PM wants to be the scrooge who will be remembered for stealing it back!

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:33 pm
by Rowls
mkmel wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:12 pm
Is that a cold weather payment Ian?
"Cold Weather Payments" are different from "Winter Fuel Allowances"

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:39 pm
by mkmel
Yes I know that.
Winter Fuel Allowance for most people is £200.

Cold weather payments are just £10 that are paid out when the temperature dips to a certain level I think for a certain amout of days

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:40 pm
by mkmel
I was simply asking Ian if the £10 he mentioned was a cold weather payment

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:19 pm
by basil6345789
£10 Christmas Bonus from Bonking Boris - great lad!

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:48 pm
by tim_noone
IanMcL wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:07 am
My phone pinged and said £10 had been paid into my bank account.

Checked and there was Harold Wilson's continuing legacy!

£10 was a lot in the 60's. No Government dare remove it!

Thanks Harold. Merry Christmas to you too. We still have that white gear of technology. Seems to have melted the ice caps!
Ted Heath...as mentioned.

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:02 pm
by Steve1956
IanMcL wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:07 am
My phone pinged and said £10 had been paid into my bank account.

Checked and there was Harold Wilson's continuing legacy!

£10 was a lot in the 60's. No Government dare remove it!

Thanks Harold. Merry Christmas to you too. We still have that white gear of technology. Seems to have melted the ice caps!
Whats the story behind that one Ian,never heard that one before?

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:47 pm
by tim_noone
Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:02 pm
Whats the story behind that one Ian,never heard that one before?
In 1972.....when I was a teenager :D Ted heath the PM gave pensioners a tenner for xmas...which would have bought a shed load of beer back then.

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:51 pm
by Bosscat
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You Dirty old man ......

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:07 pm
by fatboy47
Doff your caps and say thank you to the maisters you peasants. 😂

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:27 am
by Clarets4me
IanMcL wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:07 am
My phone pinged and said £10 had been paid into my bank account.

Checked and there was Harold Wilson's continuing legacy!

£10 was a lot in the 60's. No Government dare remove it!

Thanks Harold. Merry Christmas to you too. We still have that white gear of technology. Seems to have melted the ice caps!
Introduced by Mr Heath in 1972, as a one off payment, but was repeated in 1973 and 1974 .... Wilson cancelled it in 1975, but Callaghan reintroduced it in 1977, and it's been paid at £10 ever since. When it was introduced , the State pension was £6.75 a week so it would have been very welcome at the time ...

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:15 am
by Steve1956
When do I get my £10?

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:10 am
by mkmel
I've never received this £10 either

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:13 am
by Steve1956
mkmel wrote:
Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:10 am
I've never received this £10 either
Maybe its only paid to Labour voters! :lol:

Whoops can i say that? :roll:

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:33 am
by mkmel
I am a lifelong Labour supporter!

Maybe it's only paid to Scots like Ian

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:06 am
by Bosscat
Steve1956 wrote:
Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:13 am
Maybe its only paid to Labour voters! :lol:

Whoops can i say that? :roll:
Yes as long as there is no "Dancing Madge" emoji 🙄

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:45 pm
by ClaretTony
mkmel wrote:
Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:40 pm
I was simply asking Ian if the £10 he mentioned was a cold weather payment
No. It’s the Christmas money we old sods get every year. Mine arrived yesterday although I’m still awaiting my winter fuel allowance which has always previously arrived in November.

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:59 pm
by lakedistrictclaret
I'm a old sod, but I've never had the cold weather payment.

Unlike the winter fuel payment, the cold weather payment is means- and/or health-tested.

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:05 pm
by ClaretTony
lakedistrictclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:59 pm
I'm a old sod, but I've never had the cold weather payment.

Unlike the winter fuel payment, the cold weather payment is means- and/or health-tested.
I wasn't even aware of cold weather payments but, found this which confirms your post lakedistrict.



You may get a Cold Weather Payment if you're getting certain benefits or Support for Mortgage Interest.

You'll get a payment if the average temperature in your area is recorded as, or forecast to be, zero degrees celsius or below over 7 consecutive days. You'll get £25 for each 7 day period of very cold weather between 1 November and 31 March. The Cold Weather Payment scheme runs from 1 November 2020 to 31 March 2021.

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:39 pm
by Billy Balfour
£10.00 in 1972 would have been worth around £130 in todays money.

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:00 pm
by mkmel
Does this £10 go straight into a bank account or by the old fashioned way of a cheque in the post?

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:06 pm
by tim_noone
Billy Balfour wrote:
Sun Dec 06, 2020 2:39 pm
£10.00 in 1972 would have been worth around £130 in todays money.
Yes it was a good gesture by the then PM was my thinking....

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:15 pm
by kentonclaret
1972 was the year following decimalisation. £10.00 then was a decent sum. When you consider a First Class Stamp will cost 85 pence (17s in old money) from the 1st January 2021 it puts it into some perspective.

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:26 pm
by IanMcL
mkmel wrote:
Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:00 pm
Does this £10 go straight into a bank account or by the old fashioned way of a cheque in the post?
Straight into bank. Not even a Merry Christmas!

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:17 am
by mkmel
Hurray! Today I too got my £10

Still waiting for my Winter Fuel Allowance which I have always got in November in previous years

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:20 am
by dermotdermot
As with everything else, it’s running a little late this year. You’ll get it before Christmas.

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:22 am
by dermotdermot
Haven’t had my ten pounds but I won’t hold my breath.

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 9:48 am
by Steve1956
I was getting quite perturbed about people saying I've got my tenner,I've got my tenner,so I thought I'd look into it..."people are paid a ten pound bonus if they are in receipt of certain BENEFITS", I didnt have to investigate any further never had a benefit off anyone in my life,they even took some of mine away by making me work an extra year before I got my pension ....some people have all the luck,I'd earmarked mine for a nice bottle of Botham,Willis,Merrill Australian Shiraz.😥

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:15 am
by cbx750
The list of benefits on the .Gov web site includes state pension so you will get it Steve.
I'm the same as you having to wait an extra year for my pension, I was 66 on the 5th so might not get the tenner this year.

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:29 am
by Steve1956
cbx750 wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:15 am
The list of benefits on the .Gov web site includes state pension so you will get it Steve.
I'm the same as you having to wait an extra year for my pension, I was 66 on the 5th so might not get the tenner this year.
I'm 65 in March Buddy just before the new tax year,will cold weather payments kick in for me?

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:28 pm
by cbx750
Steve1956 wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:29 am
I'm 65 in March Buddy just before the new tax year,will cold weather payments kick in for me?
As I understand it, all pensioners get the £10, one pensioner from each household gets the Winter fuel allowance and then the cold weather payment if it gets cold enough.

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:52 pm
by lakedistrictclaret
If you get pension credit you qualify for the cold weather payment, but I don't think the state pension alone qualifies.

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:57 pm
by cbx750
lakedistrictclaret wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:52 pm
If you get pension credit you qualify for the cold weather payment, but I don't think the state pension alone qualifies.
Just looked it up and you are correct.

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:02 pm
by Bosscat
cbx750 wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:57 pm
Just looked it up and you are correct.
My wife has had the cold weather payment as has my Brother.... neither of whom are in receipt of Pension Credit just the standard UK Pension

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:30 pm
by lakedistrictclaret
Bosscat wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:02 pm
My wife has had the cold weather payment as has my Brother.... neither of whom are in receipt of Pension Credit just the standard UK Pension
But do they get one of the other qualifying benefits?

If state pension alone qualifies, I'm due some back pay :P

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:40 pm
by lakedistrictclaret
I've just checked my bank account online, and I've received the £10!!

The Gov Uk website must not be up to date, or badly worded. I certainly don't receive any of the benefits to which it refers.

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:46 pm
by ClaretTony
Bosscat wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:02 pm
My wife has had the cold weather payment as has my Brother.... neither of whom are in receipt of Pension Credit just the standard UK Pension
Are you confusing that with winter fuel allowance that all pensioners get? If you were born on or before 5th October 1954 you will qualify for the winter fuel allowance no matter what your circumstances. It is between £100 and £300.

£100 each if more than one qualifier in the household
£200 if you live alone or are the only one in the household who qualifies

Goes up to £300 for people born on or before 27th September 1940 although if you live with someone who qualifies who was born later than the qualifying date it goes up to £200.

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:54 pm
by Bosscat
ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:46 pm
Are you confusing that with winter fuel allowance that all pensioners get? If you were born on or before 5th October 1954 you will qualify for the winter fuel allowance no matter what your circumstances. It is between £100 and £300.

£100 each if more than one qualifier in the household
£200 if you live alone or are the only one in the household who qualifies

Goes up to £300 for people born on or before 27th September 1940 although if you live with someone who qualifies who was born later than the qualifying date it goes up to £200.
The Mrs says she has definitely had the £10 payed into her account before when the temperature dropped below zero for above a week a couple of years ago.... She "IS NOT" in receipt of any benefit other than pension

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:57 pm
by ClaretTony
Bosscat wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:54 pm
The Mrs says she has definitely had the £10 payed into her account before when the temperature dropped below zero for above a week a couple of years ago.... She "IS NOT" in receipt of any benefit other than pension
The £10 is the Christmas bonus that all pensioners get. The £100 to £300 is winter fuel allowance that all pensioners get. The cold weather payment is £25 for each 7 day period when the temperature drops below zero on each of the 7 days.

Cold weather payment is received in those circumstances if you’re getting:

Pension Credit
Income Support
income-based Jobseeker’s Allowance
income-related Employment and Support Allowance
Universal Credit
Support for Mortgage Interest

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:59 pm
by Bosscat
Fair enough she thought it must be the cold weather payment .... I am not arguing as I don't wish to be barred 😉

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:03 pm
by lakedistrictclaret
ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:57 pm
The £10 is the Christmas bonus that all pensioners get.
Thanks for clearing that up Tony. I'd totally forgotten about the Christmas bonus.

I take back what I said above the gov uk website being wrong.

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:11 pm
by Steve1956
Am I classed as a pensioner at the age of 65 or 66?

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:12 pm
by Bosscat
Steve1956 wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:11 pm
Am I classed as a pensioner at the age of 65 or 66?
I think when you get your pension from the gov would be the biggest clue Steve 🤭🤭🤭

Re: Merry Christmas from Harold

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:13 pm
by Steve1956
Bosscat wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:12 pm
I think when you get your pension from the gov would be the biggest clue Steve 🤭🤭🤭
Tory b@stards 😂😂😂