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Burnley to Manchester Victoria ...

Post by Clarets4me » Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:48 pm

I've been asked to give the eulogy at my God-fathers funeral in Hertfordshire on 21st December ...

Planning to go by train, I can't seem to find out whether this service is running, or is it a bus replacement service where I may miss my connection from Manchester Picadilly ? Can anyone help ?

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Re: Burnley to Manchester Victoria ...

Post by Vintage Claret » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:38 pm

Trains planned to be running on 21st according to NR journey planner..

https://ojp.nationalrail.co.uk/service/ ... utwardJump

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Re: Burnley to Manchester Victoria ...

Post by thelaughingclaret » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:54 pm

Think direct trains are only once every 3 hours or so at the moment. No one uses the burnley to manchester trains at the best of times, been empty ever since they started. To go south it is easier to go to Preston.
If you have to go from manchester probably best to get the bus or go via blackburn or Hebden bridge.

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Post by Herts Clarets » Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:03 pm

And depending which part of Hertfordshire, you may be better off going to Leeds then take the East Coast line. No good if you are going West of the county (Watford, Hemel, Tring, Berkhamsted, Rickmansworth etc) but anything more central/East it could be a better option.

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Post by lesxdp » Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:26 pm

If you use the Trainline App it should give you your route and usually good prices

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Re: Burnley to Manchester Victoria ...

Post by jrgbfc » Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:28 pm

The X43 might be a better option. Northern Rail are pretty unreliable at the best of times. Trains often seem to be cancelled at the drop of a hat with no explanation.

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Re: Burnley to Manchester Victoria ...

Post by Clarets4me » Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:35 pm

Herts Clarets wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:03 pm
And depending which part of Hertfordshire, you may be better off going to Leeds then take the East Coast line. No good if you are going West of the county (Watford, Hemel, Tring, Berkhamsted, Rickmansworth etc) but anything more central/East it could be a better option.
It's in Berkhamsted at noon, but thanks ! Manchester Picadilly to Milton Keynes, then 28 minutes to Berkhamsted .... ;)

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Re: Burnley to Manchester Victoria ...

Post by keith1879 » Wed Dec 09, 2020 4:38 pm

thelaughingclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:54 pm
Think direct trains are only once every 3 hours or so at the moment. No one uses the burnley to manchester trains at the best of times, been empty ever since they started. To go south it is easier to go to Preston.
If you have to go from manchester probably best to get the bus or go via blackburn or Hebden bridge.
Not my experience on the times I have used them - quite a few people on. The only issue is that it's a long climb up to Manchester Road station but at a busy time the X43 can get dreadfully delayed in the Manchester traffic.

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Re: Burnley to Manchester Victoria ...

Post by Clarets4me » Wed Dec 09, 2020 7:08 pm

Thanks to everyone for their replies .... I've decided to drive to Manchester Picadilly, park next to the station at the long stay car park ... 8.05 Train gets me into Milton Keynes at 9.42, with the connection arriving in Berkhamsted at 10.22, with later options in case of delays etc ...

I must be getting old or something .... I'd have thought nothing of driving 430 miles in a day 20 or even 10 years ago, but I'm waiting for a 2nd new hip and have a temporary Blue badge so the train it is !! ;)
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Post by Targetman » Wed Dec 09, 2020 7:43 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 7:08 pm
Thanks to everyone for their replies .... I've decided to drive to Manchester Picadilly, park next to the station at the long stay car park ... 8.05 Train gets me into Milton Keynes at 9.42, with the connection arriving in Berkhamsted at 10.22, with later options in case of delays etc ...

I must be getting old or something .... I'd have thought nothing of driving 430 miles in a day 20 or even 10 years ago, but I'm waiting for a 2nd new hip and have a temporary Blue badge so the train it is !! ;)
If it's the multistorey car park next to Piccadilly station that you are going to park at then beware it's very expensive on weekdays. Its over 20 quid to park for up to 24 hours Monday - Friday.
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Re: Burnley to Manchester Victoria ...

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:16 pm

keith1879 wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 4:38 pm
Not my experience on the times I have used them - quite a few people on. The only issue is that it's a long climb up to Manchester Road station but at a busy time the X43 can get dreadfully delayed in the Manchester traffic.
I always use the bus if going to Manchester but that's for two reasons, I'm close to a bus stop and it's free with my bus pass. It is a regular service though and terminates just a few minutes walk from Piccadilly but I do take your point on the traffic problems. On occasions, if going in or coming out at anything like peak times I tend to use the tram to Prestwich and bus from there.

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Post by keith1879 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:32 pm

Yes...I've done the Prestwich shuffle on occasion! One frustration with the X43 is when the bus fills up at Burnley and I have to wait for the next one.......knowing full well that there will be a dozen or more people getting off at or before the top of the hill where the bypass crosses over. It's a good service though.

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Re: Burnley to Manchester Victoria ...

Post by basil6345789 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:46 pm

Go to Tod - bus or car - then 31 mins to Victoria. Very frequent.

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Re: Burnley to Manchester Victoria ...

Post by JohnDearyMe » Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:28 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:16 pm
I always use the bus if going to Manchester but that's for two reasons, I'm close to a bus stop and it's free with my bus pass. It is a regular service though and terminates just a few minutes walk from Piccadilly but I do take your point on the traffic problems. On occasions, if going in or coming out at anything like peak times I tend to use the tram to Prestwich and bus from there.
In my many years of getting the X43 from Manchester i can't believe I've never contemplated getting the tram to Prestwich... I've been on a few bus journeys that have taken well over 90 minutes to go from Manchester city centre to Prestwich. Thanks for the tip!

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Re: Burnley to Manchester Victoria ...

Post by nil_desperandum » Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:34 pm

keith1879 wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 4:38 pm
Not my experience on the times I have used them - quite a few people on.
Not my experience either when I've used that service. Usually pretty busy, and unless you get there really early, car park and surroundings full.
Maybe it is quieter at off-peak times.

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Re: Burnley to Manchester Victoria ...

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:19 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:28 pm
In my many years of getting the X43 from Manchester i can't believe I've never contemplated getting the tram to Prestwich... I've been on a few bus journeys that have taken well over 90 minutes to go from Manchester city centre to Prestwich. Thanks for the tip!
Depends on the timings but at busy times it is worth it and the walk from the tram station to the bus stop is only a few minutes. It will cost you more obviously but I find it worth it if I don't want to be stuck on Bury New Road at rush hour.
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