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Re: Callum Styles

Post by Barnesy » Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:11 pm

Hopefully the way he was treated by Blake hasn't put him off the idea of a future return to Burnley. The Barnsley fans have been raving about him since last season. There are even a couple on twitter asking bookies for odds on him playing for England.

These are the types of players we need to look to be snapping up before they get beyond our reaches, like Toney most probably is now at Brentford. We have been linked recently to Tyrese Campbell at Stoke and looking at the trajectory he is on, he will probably be beyond our grasp soon.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:54 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:33 pm
Jason Blake was/is a bellend.

It’s almost like he was always jealous of any youngster that was better at football than he ever was.
It’s incredible to believe the damage he was allowed to do before someone arrived at the club, saw it and got him out.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by dsr » Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:52 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:01 pm
Ian Wright was playing Sunday league at 21.
Or if you want a full back, Stuart Pearce was playing for Wealdstone.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by Inchy » Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:56 am

Where is Blake working now?

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:16 am

Inchy wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:56 am
Where is Blake working now?
Worked at UCFB who sent him off to China

According to his own records he's since been

Academy director of Dalian Yifang Football Club
Founder of Global Soccer Education
Technical Director at The Dome Red Deer/SC Central Alberta

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by jrgbfc » Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:45 pm

Surely bigger questions to be asked about why the club gave a manager so much control over the youth setup, when it was more than likely he'd only be here for 3 or 4 years max?

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:52 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:45 pm
Surely bigger questions to be asked about why the club gave a manager so much control over the youth setup, when it was more than likely he'd only be here for 3 or 4 years max?
When Cotterill became manager in 2004 he was amazed that the manager had control of the youth set up and said he shouldn't. We appointed Vince Overson as head of youth and we moved on. Coyle didn't have control, Laws didn't and Dyche doesn't.

One name missing is Howe. I don't blame Howe for the mess, he didn't like Dobbo & Vince and all he did was bring his mate in when he got the chance. I blame whoever allowed him to do that in the first place. I don't know the answer for sure but at the time the two people running the place both had surnames beginning with FL. I don't think I'd look too much further than that. From what I can see, Blake then got in well with Lee Hoos who protected him which, if the case, surprises me. Baldwin saw through Blake very quickly and mercifully he departed in summer 2016.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by jtv » Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:53 am

One is Flood. Who's the other FL?

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by NottsClaret » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:06 am

jtv wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:53 am
One is Flood. Who's the other FL?
Fletcher?

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by jtv » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:13 am

Yes, think so

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:14 am

Under the Blake set up we also decided to get rid of a lot of our scouts who were bringing players over from Manchester and Merseyside for example.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by Herts Clarets » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:20 am

NottsClaret wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:06 am
Fletcher?
Paul Fletcher doesn't seem to come out of many situations, playing aside, very well at all does he? Walked away from the Wembley stadium build as costs spiralled, responsible for the Ricoh in Coventry which has been an unmitigated disaster, proposed replacing the CF stand with what looked like a bread bin, CEO when we made the disastrous managerial appointment of Brian Laws and one of the 2 responsible for handing over power of our youth system to a man who virtually destroyed it.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:30 am

Herts Clarets wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:20 am
Paul Fletcher doesn't seem to come out of many situations, playing aside, very well at all does he? Walked away from the Wembley stadium build as costs spiralled, responsible for the Ricoh in Coventry which has been an unmitigated disaster, proposed replacing the CF stand with what looked like a bread bin, CEO when we made the disastrous managerial appointment of Brian Laws and one of the 2 responsible for handing over power of our youth system to a man who virtually destroyed it.

His best off the pitch moment was shouting at street sellers via a megaphone on Brunshaw Road who were selling Wembley tat

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by Inchy » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:57 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 11:16 am
Worked at UCFB who sent him off to China

According to his own records he's since been

Academy director of Dalian Yifang Football Club
Founder of Global Soccer Education
Technical Director at The Dome Red Deer/SC Central Alberta

So his post Burnley career kind of sums him up really

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by Andingle » Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:54 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:14 am
Under the Blake set up we also decided to get rid of a lot of our scouts who were bringing players over from Manchester and Merseyside for example.
More the Youth scouts chose to move on rather than getting rid with at least nine working with other Cat 1 Academy's now.
But time moves on and it's good to see the club looking like it's moving forward with its Youth Development.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:11 am

Andingle wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:54 am
More the Youth scouts chose to move on rather than getting rid with at least nine working with other Cat 1 Academy's now.
But time moves on and it's good to see the club looking like it's moving forward with its Youth Development.
Some of them definitely didn’t choose to move on.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by Andingle » Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:51 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:11 am
Some of them definitely didn’t choose to move on.
Yes you may well be correct from 2015 onwards as some maybe were binned off with various changes to the Head of Recruitment role as I've not followed with interest from then, but I know prior to that from 2012 to 2015 about 15 local youth scouts chose to leave the club.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:58 pm

Andingle wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:51 pm
Yes you may well be correct from 2015 onwards as some maybe were binned off with various changes to the Head of Recruitment role as I've not followed with interest from then, but I know prior to that from 2012 to 2015 about 15 local youth scouts chose to leave the club.
As you said previously thankfully the youth setup know seems to be in good hands and hopefully we’ll see some of them in the first team squad in the not too distant future.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by ClaretCraig » Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:13 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:19 pm
I know absolutely nothing about him.
So what the hell are you going on about then?

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:53 pm

All I said was that I didn't know what the fuss was about. Still don't really. Good player at Barnsley, great and all the best to him.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:22 pm

Andingle wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:54 am
More the Youth scouts chose to move on rather than getting rid with at least nine working with other Cat 1 Academy's now.
But time moves on and it's good to see the club looking like it's moving forward with its Youth Development.
I honestly thought the one thing holding us back pre-Blake was a lack of finance. I always believed that the people in charge of the youth set up were heading in the right direction and getting in the right people both on the scouting and coaching side.

Then came Blake.

Then Blake went and the rebuilding could start with those left and this time with far less restrictions in terms of finance which has allowed us to move to where we are, somewhere I honestly thought I'd never see us. I don't know how many times I've been to Gawthorpe since all the changes were made, I've been in the building a good few times too yet I'm still in awe of the place every time I'm down there. All credit to those who have got our academy to where it is today but I'll never forget the work done by those involved from 2004 to 2011 when we took massive steps forward despite all the financial restrictions placed on us.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by Papabendi » Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:43 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:53 pm
All I said was that I didn't know what the fuss was about. Still don't really. Good player at Barnsley, great and all the best to him.
so far the Pugh rule applies.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:48 pm

Papabendi wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:43 pm
so far the Pugh rule applies.
Nothing like Pugh though. Marc was 19 when he left and had spent three years in the youths and reserves, this was a lad who was refused a scholarship despite all the coaches and scouts believing he was the best player. Two totally different scenarios.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by Andingle » Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:19 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:22 pm
I honestly thought the one thing holding us back pre-Blake was a lack of finance. I always believed that the people in charge of the youth set up were heading in the right direction and getting in the right people both on the scouting and coaching side.

Then came Blake.

Then Blake went and the rebuilding could start with those left and this time with far less restrictions in terms of finance which has allowed us to move to where we are, somewhere I honestly thought I'd never see us. I don't know how many times I've been to Gawthorpe since all the changes were made, I've been in the building a good few times too yet I'm still in awe of the place every time I'm down there. All credit to those who have got our academy to where it is today but I'll never forget the work done by those involved from 2004 to 2011 when we took massive steps forward despite all the financial restrictions placed on us.
I've only been down to Gawthorpe(never barnfield to me) on three occasions since its rebuild, sadly working for another club but was hugely impressed as its an excellent facility now, one that the club can rightly be proud and one that was desperately needed for many years to move it forward and has no excuses now not to keep moving forward, the facility and finances are in place, now it just needs the hard work, determination and desire to match.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:32 pm

Andingle wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:19 pm
I've only been down to Gawthorpe(never barnfield to me) on three occasions since its rebuild, sadly working for another club but was hugely impressed as its an excellent facility now, one that the club can rightly be proud and one that was desperately needed for many years to move it forward and has no excuses now not to keep moving forward, the facility and finances are in place, now it just needs the hard work, determination and desire to match.
Will only ever have one name for me Andingle and that's Gawthorpe. Rather sad really that the sponsor didn't want the name Gawthorpe in their sponsored name. Always Gawthorpe for me although the one additional name I do approve of is calling Arthur's bungalow the Arthur Bellamy Media Centre.
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Re: Callum Styles

Post by Papabendi » Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:51 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:48 pm
Nothing like Pugh though. Marc was 19 when he left and had spent three years in the youths and reserves, this was a lad who was refused a scholarship despite all the coaches and scouts believing he was the best player. Two totally different scenarios.
he's a player playing at a lower level to us, so yes it does.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:05 pm

Papabendi wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:51 pm
he's a player playing at a lower level to us, so yes it does.
No it doesn't. One was a professional who was a regular reserve team player who had been on the first team bench several times, the other was still a schoolboy.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:30 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:48 pm
Nothing like Pugh though. Marc was 19 when he left and had spent three years in the youths and reserves, this was a lad who was refused a scholarship despite all the coaches and scouts believing he was the best player. Two totally different scenarios.
But quite possibly the same eventual outcome?

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by Papabendi » Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:38 pm

glad you see it BB, thanks.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by NottsClaret » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:23 pm

A bit outdated looking purely at what level he’s at. Academies these days are as much about finding players you can recoup fees from. This kid has already moved for £500k. That could have been ours.

But from what I’ve heard from a couple of mates who follow Barnsley, we’re destined to end up regretting this mistake way more than that.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:25 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:23 pm
A bit outdated looking purely at what level he’s at. Academies these days are as much about finding players you can recoup fees from. This kid has already moved for £500k. That could have been ours.

But from what I’ve heard from a couple of mates who follow Barnsley, we’re destined to end up regretting this mistake way more than that.
You only need to look at the revenue generated by City and Chelsea through academy sales to see they aren't fussed where kids tend to end up, it's what money they can make from them.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:36 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:25 pm
You only need to look at the revenue generated by City and Chelsea through academy sales to see they aren't fussed where kids tend to end up, it's what money they can make from them.
They have the advantage that they can buy kids at a very young age. Is that being stopped now?

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:51 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:36 pm
They have the advantage that they can buy kids at a very young age. Is that being stopped now?
I think something went on to limit the academy size, can't remember.

They're not going to be allowed to import kids anymore after Brexit so that's a good thing.
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Re: Callum Styles

Post by Andingle » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:10 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:36 pm
They have the advantage that they can buy kids at a very young age. Is that being stopped now?
No, but being a Category1 Academy now entitles Burnley to go into Cat3 Academy's looking at players to enquire about.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:21 pm

Andingle wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:10 pm
No, but being a Category1 Academy now entitles Burnley to go into Cat3 Academy's looking at players to enquire about.
i didn't know that. The ethics of professional football are almost non-existent.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:44 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:30 pm
But quite possibly the same eventual outcome?
Who knows, might be, but their departures from Burnley, one being a pro and the other a schoolboy who had never been full time, are totally different.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by Papabendi » Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:08 pm

third time you have said that now

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:53 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:21 pm
i didn't know that. The ethics of professional football are almost non-existent.
Absolutely. I don’t know it down to a detailed level although Andingle will. Huge advantages in being cat 1.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:16 pm

Andingle wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:10 pm
No, but being a Category1 Academy now entitles Burnley to go into Cat3 Academy's looking at players to enquire about.
Have we made the step up to cat 1 now?
I know it was being mooted once everything had settled down after all the work was done upgrading etc.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:18 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:16 pm
Have we made the step up to cat 1 now?
I know it was being mooted once everything had settled down after all the work was done upgrading etc.
July
https://www.uptheclarets.com/clarets-be ... ne-academy
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Re: Callum Styles

Post by Rowls » Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:14 pm

Just scored with a tidy finish to put Barnsley 1-0 against Norwich
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Re: Callum Styles

Post by dandeclaret » Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:14 pm

and rumoured with a move to Brentford for £5m in some of today's tabloids

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by Ashingtonclaret46 » Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:19 pm

He had a very steady game, scored the winner and also made a great block late on to deny Norwich an equaliser. Looks a very decent player and good luck to him. Very hard working side are Barnsley and should have won by more today. Home to Chelsea or Luton in the next round.
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Post by MT03ALG » Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:27 pm

Barnsley also beat Liverpool on Thursday !!
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Re: Callum Styles

Post by Mattster » Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:48 pm

Styles is heavily linked to Brentford at the moment. If there's a recruitment department you can be certain knows their stuff in this country, it's them.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by clansman » Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:40 pm

Boat shed. You might be trying to be fair but really dandeclaret is correct Blake was a disaster and letting that boy go was a big big mistake

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by dandeclaret » Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:48 pm

Another goal for Callum Styles tonight from left wing back. 4 goals and 2 assists now this season, top bunch in the division for tackles, interceptions and distance ran as well. Good on him, pleased to see him fulfilling his potential.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by MACCA » Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:50 pm

Still only 20, maybe a one that got away story.

Although some lads certainly seem to benefit from playing regular mens football, they come on leaps and bounds.
It's a boom or bust.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:57 pm

Much as I respect your opinion, Dandeclaret, there is absolutely no proof that this player would have thrived or reached whatever standard he has achieved so far had he stayed at BFC.
As I've said before "best of luck to him, and well done to Barnsley.

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Re: Callum Styles

Post by dandeclaret » Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:04 pm

You may have no proof, and proof is impossible to provide in the case of a footballer.

What you can have is belief. You may not have belief, and that’s fine. Having first watched Callum at the age of 7 and having been part of the scouting team that brought him to the club, and then having watched him regularly through the age groups, and watched him when stepped up in age groups, and watched him be the best player at under 16, I had belief that he would make a professional footballer at a good level.

He was a playing professional football at the age of 16, 8 weeks after his release. I’d say my belief was pretty well placed on the tens of views and hundreds of training sessions I observed him in.

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