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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:02 am

I think people are over complicating it.

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by Leisure » Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:05 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:02 am
I think people are over complicating it.
James - Why's that? If by not electing to go into the ballot for the 1st game would mean that I'm then excluded for subsequent games I want to know.

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:11 am

Leisure wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:05 am
James - Why's that? If by not electing to go into the ballot for the 1st game would mean that I'm then excluded for subsequent games I want to know.
I’m pretty sure each match will be treat independently from that respect.

Wasn’t necessarily aimed at you. But read through the thread. People making out that unless you are bill gates you’ll have no way of even printing the ticket.
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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:23 am

I'm assuming it will work like this (and I'm using the word "work" loosely as based on their previous, I'm not sure how the club will implement it)

Andrew, Bob & Colin all enter the ballot for the Wolves game
Andrew & Bob are successful and attend the Wolves game


Andrew, Bob, Colin, Dave & Eddie all enter the ballot for the Sheff Utd game
You would hope that Colin, Dave & Eddie would have priority over Andrew & Bob

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by Leisure » Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:23 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:11 am
I’m pretty sure each match will be treat independently from that respect.
Yes, I would have thought so but I can't see that it clearly states that in the info. put out by the club, so just seeking clarification.

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by Leisure » Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:26 am

wilks_bfc wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:23 am
I'm assuming it will work like this (and I'm using the word "work" loosely as based on their previous, I'm not sure how the club will implement it)

Andrew, Bob & Colin all enter the ballot for the Wolves game
Andrew & Bob are successful and attend the Wolves game


Andrew, Bob, Colin, Dave & Eddie all enter the ballot for the Sheff Utd game
You would hope that Colin, Dave & Eddie would have priority over Andrew & Bob
Andrew and Bob won't be in the ballot for the 2nd game. They'll only go back into the ballot after everyone who has applied has actually been to a game. Or that's my understanding at least!

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by jrgbfc » Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:27 am

We won't be coming out of tier 3 anytime soon anyway so it's pointless getting too worked up about it.

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:28 am

wilks_bfc wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:23 am
I'm assuming it will work like this (and I'm using the word "work" loosely as based on their previous, I'm not sure how the club will implement it)

Andrew, Bob & Colin all enter the ballot for the Wolves game
Andrew & Bob are successful and attend the Wolves game


Andrew, Bob, Colin, Dave & Eddie all enter the ballot for the Sheff Utd game
You would hope that Colin, Dave & Eddie would have priority over Andrew & Bob
Did Dave & Eddie enter the ballot for the Sheff Utd game :D

Can't have them cherry picking opponents

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:33 am

Leisure wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:26 am
Andrew and Bob won't be in the ballot for the 2nd game. They'll only go back into the ballot after everyone who has applied has actually been to a game. Or that's my understanding at least!
They'll be allowed to re-enter, just to the back of the queue, otherwise you'll get to the stage where there wont be enough in the ballot to fill the 2000

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by Leisure » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:01 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:33 am
They'll be allowed to re-enter, just to the back of the queue, otherwise you'll get to the stage where there wont be enough in the ballot to fill the 2000
Or maybe you can only re-enter the ballot once everyone has attended 1 game??

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by Dyched » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:18 pm

Leisure wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:01 pm
Or maybe you can only re-enter the ballot once everyone has attended 1 game??
Well tbh, if we are Tier 2 that would last for 2 weeks I presume from Saturday 19 December. Lancashire only, so with 3 home games I presume all those wanting to go and can go would have the chance by Saturday 2 January.

They’ll surely if say the 6,000 (not sure how many) season ticket holders in Lancashire apply for Wolves, the successful 2,000 would be taken out for the next one and so on.

I presume fans not entering some ballots would be put behind those that have been unsuccessful in others. It could be seen as not entering is giving some an unfair advantage in wanting to see one of the bigger sides. But we don’t play a top 6 team until February so things could be a lot different by that stage.

Another view is. What happens when non Lancashire season ticket holders can enter? Do the government really want the prospect of 10,000s of football fans travelling around the country for a football match?

EDIT. Further on from that last bit. I suspect Lancashire only would run until the new year up until the next review on the tier system. If things change and non Lancashire based season ticket holders are allowed, will all Lancashire based fans not be allowed to enter for 2 or 3 games? It won’t just be our club, but you could have loads of clubs with the same issue and fans travelling from all over the place. You could get to a stage where there’s no fans in loads of home sections that don’t live within the surrounding area.

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by dsr » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:45 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:11 am
I’m pretty sure each match will be treat independently from that respect.

Wasn’t necessarily aimed at you. But read through the thread. People making out that unless you are bill gates you’ll have no way of even printing the ticket.
I think the focus was more on the idea that people who don't have a smartphone would struggle to have the NHS app.

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by Reecey1987 » Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:13 pm

Sky News understands health secretary Matt Hancock has told London MPs the capital will be moved into Tier 3 COVID-19 restrictions imminently


I think it will be a lot longer now before fans get to go on the grounds again. Lasted for 10 days

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by keith1879 » Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:29 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:30 am
When I read this update from the club I was stupid enough to think everyone would be pleased as we potentially start taking steps back to normality.
Agreed ....I somehow do not think that you, me and CricketfieldClarets are the only ones thinking this way. I'd like to think that we have better things to do than whinge however.

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by Top Claret » Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:47 pm

Will the club be issuing rain maks foc for those have the misfortune to be seated in the JH lower tier?

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:51 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:47 pm
Will the club be issuing rain maks foc for those have the misfortune to be seated in the JH lower tier?
And sunglasses for those in the JMU?

I thought things were better back on the longside? Now people are whinging that they might get a bit wet.

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by jrgbfc » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:27 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:51 pm
And sunglasses for those in the JMU?

I thought things were better back on the longside? Now people are whinging that they might get a bit wet.
Have you ever sat down there? On a bad day its absolutely horrible. Give me the Longside any day!

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by Rileybobs » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:30 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:27 pm
Have you ever sat down there? On a bad day its absolutely horrible. Give me the Longside any day!
Yes, but not in the rain. It's in the same location as the Longside was, how can it be any worse?

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by jrgbfc » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:36 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:30 pm
Yes, but not in the rain. It's in the same location as the Longside was, how can it be any worse?
The Longside had a decent, low hanging roof that covered the entire terrace. Personally think the 2 newer stands are cheap, badly designed monstrosities but that's another debate entirely!
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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by Leisure » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:36 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:47 pm
Will the club be issuing rain maks foc for those have the misfortune to be seated in the JH lower tier?
Why should they? Do people not have their own coats etc these days?

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by Spijed » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:39 pm

As an aside, London has now gone back into tier 3 so it looks like all the London clubs will no longer be admitting fans for the time being.

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:41 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:39 pm
As an aside, London has now gone back into tier 3 so it looks like all the London clubs will no longer be admitting fans for the time being.
Think Arsenal FC will be pleased about that

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:42 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:39 pm
As an aside, London has now gone back into tier 3 so it looks like all the London clubs will no longer be admitting fans for the time being.
London in tier three?

Expect it to be the main story on the news for the next fortnight.
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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by jrgbfc » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:42 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:39 pm
As an aside, London has now gone back into tier 3 so it looks like all the London clubs will no longer be admitting fans for the time being.
I don't think we will be either tbh. With the likelihood of another lockdown in January I'd guess it will be March before anyone is back on the Turf.

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by Kevwando » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:44 pm

I emailed the ticket office, asking if I can enter the ballot even tho I didn't renew my season ticket due to the lockdown.
They replied saying they will contact me on Wednesday with an answer.

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by fidelcastro » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:46 pm

Kevwando wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:44 pm
I emailed the ticket office, asking if I can enter the ballot even tho I didn't renew my season ticket due to the lockdown.
They replied saying they will contact me on Wednesday with an answer.
Strange. I thought it was current season ticket holders only.

:?

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by Leisure » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:48 pm

Kevwando wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:44 pm
I emailed the ticket office, asking if I can enter the ballot even tho I didn't renew my season ticket due to the lockdown.
They replied saying they will contact me on Wednesday with an answer.
Definitely ST holders only.

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by Kevwando » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:56 pm

Yes ST holders

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:06 pm

Had anyone managed to apply? Said the ballot opened today.

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by NewClaret » Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:07 pm

Peston just said on ITV that we’re all staying in tier 3 tomorrow in any event.

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by martin_p » Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:52 am

Lancs stays in tier 3 so no return to the Turf in the immediate future.

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:52 pm

Seven pages of bickering for nothing 😂

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:54 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:52 pm
Seven pages of bickering for nothing 😂

On the plus side, those without a smart phone, the internet, a printer, a radio, reading glasses, legs or any friends with any of the previous mentioned won't now miss out.

Also those with all the above won't have to sit and possibly get some rain on their heads or will any non Lancashire residents feel picked on.

Everyone's a winner
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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by Leisure » Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:32 pm

Although it's not relevant for the near future, some further info/clarification from the club on the ballot process -

After the 1st game it will run as a basic three step priority for the next game. So, 1) Those who applied but were unsuccessful in the previous ticket ballot. 2) Those who didn’t enter the previous ballot but do for the next game. 3) Those who have been successful in a previous ballot. Ultimately we want as many season ticket holders to be able to attend at least one game.
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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by Burnley1989 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:46 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:54 pm
On the plus side, those without a smart phone, the internet, a printer, a radio, reading glasses, legs or any friends with any of the previous mentioned won't now miss out.

Also those with all the above won't have to sit and possibly get some rain on their heads or will any non Lancashire residents feel picked on.

Everyone's a winner
Stop it, wtf are we supposed to moan about now :lol:

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Re: Return to Turf Moor Update

Post by nil_desperandum » Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:16 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:52 pm
Seven pages of bickering for nothing 😂
Not necessarily. It's quite possible that someone will pass on some of the views expressed on this thread, and they've now plenty of time, to consider whether any of the points were valid, and whether it's possible / desirable to tweak the system before announcing it again (whenever).
There were some anomalies that could be addressed (IMO).

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