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January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:20 pm
by clarethomer
We are a few weeks away from the window opening.

I have seen from the takeover thread that Phil Jones is suggested to be a claret.

I know there have been rumours about young 20 year old striker - Tyrese Campbell from Stoke.

In hope we can have a thread that keeps all transfer links, rumours and discussions together, it will reduce other threads being bloated.

Are there any other rumours/links?

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:22 pm
by DomBFC1882
My prediction :-

Incomings - 0
Outgoings - 0

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:29 pm
by MrTopTier
DomBFC1882 wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:22 pm
My prediction :-

Incomings - 0
Outgoings - 0
That’s the spirit Dom, classic UTC first post reply.

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:29 pm
by clarethomer
At least you can't be disappointed.

There appears to be confidence in signings though so you could be pleasantly surprised.

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:34 pm
by ClaretTony
The Jones story in the last window seemed to part of a deal with Tarkowski going the other way. Don’t know how much there was in it but that window turned into a farce because of the stand off between chairman and manager.

I believe there will be signings in January.

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:35 pm
by Rileybobs
Stephens should be fit soon, he’ll be like a new signing. We just need a couple of young players to add a bit of depth to the U23’s.

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:36 pm
by DomBFC1882
MrTopTier wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:29 pm
That’s the spirit Dom, classic UTC first post reply.
Just being realistic mate based on the last 3/4/5 transfer windows if not longer. We've been in far better positions than this and not strengthend, for example when we were in the Europa league. Of course I hope I'm wrong though Mr TT 👍

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:36 pm
by clarethomer
ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:34 pm
The Jones story in the last window seemed to part of a deal with Tarkowski going the other way. Don’t know how much there was in it but that window turned into a farce because of the stand off between chairman and manager.

I believe there will be signings in January.
Do you think Tarks will leave this window?

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:37 pm
by DomBFC1882
Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:35 pm
Stephens should be fit soon, he’ll be like a new signing. We just need a couple of young players to add a bit of depth to the U23’s.
.😂😂😂 brilliant 👏 👏

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:39 pm
by ClaretTony
clarethomer wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:36 pm
Do you think Tarks will leave this window?
Another bit of the argument. As a club we are going to have to find the best time to sell him. I don’t think we will get much option with summer the most likely.

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:38 pm
by DCWat
ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:39 pm
Another bit of the argument. As a club we are going to have to find the best time to sell him. I don’t think we will get much option with summer the most likely.
If he signs a new deal, he thinks we’ve a chance of competing a little more, or the ‘money not being the issue’ was ********.

He’ll be off, surely? And good luck to him, if that’s the case.

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:59 pm
by jrgbfc
DCWat wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:38 pm
If he signs a new deal, he thinks we’ve a chance of competing a little more, or the ‘money not being the issue’ was ********.

He’ll be off, surely? And good luck to him, if that’s the case.
I think he's definetely going. If he's got any ambition to progress his career realistically it's time for him to move on.

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:21 pm
by ClaretTony
I don't think he has any intention of signing a new deal so it is over to the club now to try and sell him at the best possible time.

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:34 pm
by Burnleyareback2
DomBFC1882 wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:22 pm
My prediction :-

Incomings - 0
Outgoings - 0
We all found this hilarious

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:40 pm
by ClaretTony
Burnleyareback2 wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:34 pm
We all found this hilarious
0-0 is another point though

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:03 am
by cricketfieldclarets
I’d keep Tarkowski until his contract ends. But if we sign a reasonable replacement. And if fit I’d say Jones is that. You’d have to consider an offer of 20m plus.

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:17 am
by Jakubclaret
It’s pointless keeping players who don’t want to be here, I daresay he’d be professional enough to see the job out, it’s bad business practice any other way, cash in let him go & sign somebody else relatively decent.

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:24 am
by Burnleyareback2
ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:40 pm
0-0 is another point though
I’d take a point right now Tony!

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:25 am
by ClaretTony
Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:17 am
It’s pointless keeping players who don’t want to be here, I daresay he’d be professional enough to see the job out, it’s bad business practice any other way, cash in let him go & sign somebody else relatively decent.
Obviously we don't know the exact situation but his recent interview told us plenty. You are right, we have to find the right time for him to go in our favour. We don't want another Ings, Arfield, Boyd or Hendrick. Too many people have been allowed to walk for nothing. I know there is nothing you can do about that if the player decides he's going to see his contract out but we have to do what we can to ensure that doesn't happen with Tarkowski.

There was a time when a three year contract sounded lengthy but now, one year in, you are immediately in that predicament.

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:52 am
by DCWat
ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:25 am
Obviously we don't know the exact situation but his recent interview told us plenty. You are right, we have to find the right time for him to go in our favour. We don't want another Ings, Arfield, Boyd or Hendrick. Too many people have been allowed to walk for nothing. I know there is nothing you can do about that if the player decides he's going to see his contract out but we have to do what we can to ensure that doesn't happen with Tarkowski.

There was a time when a three year contract sounded lengthy but now, one year in, you are immediately in that predicament.
I’d guess, from what Tarkowski said, that he’s unlikely to want to run down his contract. More likely to want out at the next sign of an appealing opportunity.

You’re right though, we need to get ourselves into a position where we are able to move players on, for a fee, that look as though they’ll be unwilling to commit past their contract period.

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:53 am
by ClaretTony
DCWat wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:52 am
I’d guess, from what Tarkowski said, that he’s unlikely to want to run down his contract. More likely to want out at the next sign of an appealing opportunity.

You’re right though, we need to get ourselves into a position where we are able to move players on, for a fee, that look as though they’ll be unwilling to commit past their contract period.
I don't think he does, I think he wanted out before the last window closed.

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:59 am
by cricketfieldclarets
Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:17 am
It’s pointless keeping players who don’t want to be here, I daresay he’d be professional enough to see the job out, it’s bad business practice any other way, cash in let him go & sign somebody else relatively decent.
But if that weakens us and strengthens an opponent...

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:01 am
by DCWat
ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:53 am
I don't think he does, I think he wanted out before the last window closed.
Yes, I think that was blatantly clear from his recent interview. I’m meaning more in terms of his future position.

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:27 am
by Jakubclaret
cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:59 am
But if that weakens us and strengthens an opponent...
He won’t be signing for West Brom, Fulham or Sheffield United, trust me on that score, there’s nobody else to be bothered about & even if there was he would’ve be signing for them. He wants out he wants to be earning more money ASAP with a signing on fee & the club will want a fee rather than let him leave for nothing. Like other posters have said it’s just the timing & replacement to be considering now.

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:13 am
by CFS
Tomori from Chelsea watch this space.

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:32 am
by Woodleyclaret
There are plenty of players who would improve the squad but without the takeover I fear no signings will be possible and selling Tarks anyway a very bad idea.

Re: January Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 6:23 am
by CFS
Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:32 am
There are plenty of players who would improve the squad but without the takeover I fear no signings will be possible and selling Tarks anyway a very bad idea.
There is no good or bad he wants Champions League football :lol: :lol: :lol:

Phil Jones

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:22 am
by CardiffClaret
It is a rather surprising (but true) fact that if we were to sign Phil Jones in January, it would actually reduce the average age of the first team squad.

Re: Phil Jones

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:34 am
by Shaggy
He’s a good player if we could keep him fit.

Re: Phil Jones

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:39 am
by Im_not_Robbie_Blake
I'd rather see Big Kev or Dunne in our defence than PJ - and I bet this post gets a lot of 'likes'!

Re: Phil Jones

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:40 am
by Pearcey
Im_not_Robbie_Blake wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:39 am
I'd rather see Big Kev or Dunne in our defence than PJ - and I bet this post gets a lot of 'likes'!
In what sense? Playing ability or personality? Jones is a far better player than both of them.

Re: Phil Jones

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:42 am
by Funkydrummer
If we do sign him, you will see just what a good player he is.

Ability wise, a cut above what we currently have.

Fitness the only issue for me.

Re: Phil Jones

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:43 am
by FactualFrank
I'll give this thread a few hours. We already know how it will go. Some people would prefer Jones over Long or Dunne. Some won't. Some of those who don't want him will be shouting down those who do. End of thread and good night. :)

Re: Phil Jones

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:44 am
by tim_noone
FactualFrank wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:43 am
I'll give this thread a few hours. We already know how it will go. Some people would prefer Jones over Long or Dunne. Some won't. Some of those who don't want him will be shouting down those who do. End of thread and good night. :)
:lol:

Re: Phil Jones

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:46 am
by tim_noone
Im_not_Robbie_Blake wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:39 am
I'd rather see Big Kev or Dunne in our defence than PJ - and I bet this post gets a lot of 'likes'!
I liked it so much I'm Lmao :lol:

Re: Phil Jones

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:49 am
by randomclaret2
He's only 5 years older than Jimmy Dunne

Re: Phil Jones

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:56 am
by IanMcL
At 23 Dunne is late on the scene.

At 28 Jones should be at his peak as a player.

Re: Phil Jones

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:59 am
by tim_noone
IanMcL wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:56 am
At 23 Dunne is late on the scene.

At 28 Jones should be at his peak as a player.
Hell always be a Bastado...but he could be our Bastado?

Re: Phil Jones

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:00 am
by jrgbfc
Why do some people think Kevin Long and Jimmy Dunne are better than a guy who has 27 England caps and is still only 28? Its bizarre.

Re: Phil Jones

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:03 am
by BurnleyFC
jrgbfc wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:00 am
Why do some people think Kevin Long and Jimmy Dunne are better than a guy who has 27 England caps and is still only 28? Its bizarre.
It’s up there with the ‘Ross Barkley isn’t good enough for us’ type of stuff.

Re: Phil Jones

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:04 am
by Steve1956
I would sooner see Dyche play center half than Jones hes a complete busted flush and like someone just mentioned a former bastardo......no no no

Re: Phil Jones

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:06 am
by ElectroClaret
Might not be a bad shout if we can keep him out of the donut shop.

Re: Phil Jones

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:11 am
by taio
Would have him here without hesitation if the intelligence suggests he can keep fit.

Re: Phil Jones

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:14 am
by Bordeauxclaret
Ability wise he’d be a good player for us.

However he appears to be injured more than Darren Anderton.

Re: Phil Jones

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:14 am
by AfloatinClaret
FactualFrank wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:43 am
...already know how it will go. Some people would prefer Jones over Long or Dunne. Some won't. Some of those who don't want him will be shouting down those who do...
OH NO WE WON'T!

Re: Phil Jones

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:17 am
by CardiffClaret
I don’t know how I feel about it personally but was just shocked at how young he is. Same age as Tarkowski and 10 times the number of England caps. Granted he seems to be on a downward trajectory whereas Tarkowski is on an upwards trajectory, but I doubt any West Ham fans will be complaining Tarkowski is too old if they sign him.

Re: Phil Jones

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:20 am
by Colburn_Claret
Phil Jones has shown nothing over the last 3 seasons, to suggest he would do a job for us.
It would be a massive gamble, one that MIGHT pay off, but BFC isn't in a position to take gambles on players. Not for what PJ would cost, and or want in wages. I just think Utd's defence is awful, and he can't get in it.
With Long, Dunne and Thomas showing promise, and all already on the books, we don't need a centre half, unless they are guaranteed to be of a quality to replace Tarks. Heaven forbid.

Re: Phil Jones

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:23 am
by BurnleyFC
Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:04 am
I would sooner see Dyche play center half than Jones hes a complete busted flush and like someone just mentioned a former bastardo......no no no
And we’ve never had any former ******* players come in and do a good job for us...

Re: Phil Jones

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:30 am
by Steve1956
BurnleyFC wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:23 am
And we’ve never had any former ******* players come in and do a good job for us...
Ok I'll forgive him for being a bastardo,but those faces he pulls can we really tolerate that?🤔

Re: Phil Jones

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:31 am
by arise_sir_charge
Colburn_Claret wrote:
Sat Dec 12, 2020 10:20 am
Phil Jones has shown nothing over the last 3 seasons, to suggest he would do a job for us.
It would be a massive gamble, one that MIGHT pay off, but BFC isn't in a position to take gambles on players. Not for what PJ would cost, and or want in wages. I just think Utd's defence is awful, and he can't get in it.
With Long, Dunne and Thomas showing promise, and all already on the books, we don't need a centre half, unless they are guaranteed to be of a quality to replace Tarks. Heaven forbid.
Kevin Long is 30 years old. He’s never been a regular. He has never been good enough and never will be good enough.

A fit Phil Jones, in our ystem, would be an excellent addition. As I said yesterday, if Ben Mee can be comfortable in our system I’m certain Phil Jones can.