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Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:41 pm
by Cubanclaret
I was amazed to hear the commentators say that u der Arteta’s tenure (12 months-ish ?) Arsenal have had 7 red cards.
Can someone confirm how many we’ve had in 8 years under Dyche as I’m sure it’s not that many.
In fact I could only think of 5 (Duff v West Ham, Hendrick at Watford, Barnes at Everton and at Swansea, Brady at Huddersfield. Have I missed any?
(I didn’t remember Barnes at Swansea but my 9
Year old seems sure)

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:44 pm
by Selby Claret
Heaton at Brighton - handball I think

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:47 pm
by SGr
Heaton @ Brighton, Barnes @ Everton, Hendrick @ Watford off the top of my head

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:49 pm
by summitclaret
Heaton's and Duff's were absolute jokes. Madley and jon toss.

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:49 pm
by jdrobbo
Robbie Brady v Huddersfield
Ashley Barnes v Hull
Jeff Hendrick v Watford
Michael Duff v West Ham
Ashley Barnes v Everton
Heaton v BHA
Michael Duff v Hudd

Ben Gibson v Olympiakos *

Think I’m missing one or two

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:49 pm
by EarbyClaret
Did Duff get one at Huddersfield - 2 yellows?

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:52 pm
by Claret
EarbyClaret wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:49 pm
Did Duff get one at Huddersfield - 2 yellows?
That was ridiculous. It didn’t hit his hand. It was outside the area. He got sent off. They got a penalty!

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:54 pm
by cricketfieldclarets
Not sure about sending offs, but I dont think they have ever been sent on at The Etihad!

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:54 pm
by ClaretTony
Claret wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:52 pm
That was ridiculous. It didn’t hit his hand. It was outside the area. He got sent off. They got a penalty!
It was a clear penalty for handball apart from the fact that he was yards outside of the penalty box and it went nowhere near his hand.

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:56 pm
by ClaretTony
I might have missed one but these are the ones I can recall

Kieran Trippier v Charlton (h)
Dean Marney v Birmingham (h) - decision rescinded
Ben Mee v Blackburn (a)
Tom Heaton v Brighton (a)
Keith Treacy v West Ham (h)
Michael Duff v Huddersfield (a)
Ashley Barnes v Everton (a)
Michael Duff v West Ham (a) - decision rescinded
Jeff Hendrick v Watford (a)
Ashley Barnes v Hull (a)
Robbie Brady v Huddersfield (a)
Ben Gibson v Olympiacos (a)

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:56 pm
by CrosspoolClarets
I was going to say the Huddersfield and Olympiacos ones.

Two of the refs that have most upset me in the 30 years I have been following Burnley.

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:59 pm
by dougcollins
Also at Huddersfield, Tierney not giving us the pen infuriated me. The only person in the ground not to see it.

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:01 pm
by Rowls
CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:56 pm
I was going to say the Huddersfield and Olympiacos ones.

Two of the refs that have most upset me in the 30 years I have been following Burnley.
Same here with those two.

The only other decisions that peeved me as much were (off the top of my head):

The failure to send of the PNE guy who handled on the line circa 2008
Wolves at home circa 2001
Diving b@stard marcus olsson
Offside fatty dunn

Not that I keep a massive mental list of all the grievances that have occurred since I was born.

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:08 pm
by dandeclaret
The Preston Guy, was the Patron Saint Of Own Goals, old Lord Slabberchops himself, Sean St Ledger. Didn't that lad think he was better than he was? Him and the Goalkeeper - Lonergan - a right pair of egos, with ideas way above their ability.

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:09 pm
by ChrisG
This was the Duff red card and penalty for hand ball

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:12 pm
by dougcollins
dandeclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:08 pm
The Preston Guy, was the Patron Saint Of Own Goals, old Lord Slabberchops himself, Sean St Ledger. Didn't that lad think he was better than he was? Him and the Goalkeeper - Lonergan - a right pair of egos, with ideas way above their ability.
Wasn't the ref well known Boltoner Lee Mason?

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:13 pm
by ClaretTony
ChrisG wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:09 pm
This was the Duff red card and penalty for hand ball
He didn't get a red for that, he got a yellow and then got a second yellow for bringing someone down later in the game.

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:17 pm
by dandeclaret
dougcollins wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:12 pm
Wasn't the ref well known Boltoner Lee Mason?
Yes it was.... 2007..... first few minutes bottled the handball, then gave a straight red to McCann and Joey Gudlonsson in the 2nd half. Preston, who were bottom, won 3-2.

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:25 pm
by ChrisG
ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:13 pm
He didn't get a red for that, he got a yellow and then got a second yellow for bringing someone down later in the game.
Either way, it wasn't a penalty or a yellow as you said further up the thread

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:26 pm
by ClaretTony
ChrisG wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:25 pm
Either way, it wasn't a penalty or a yellow as you said further up the thread
It was a shocking decision - referee was Ilderton. Huddersfield's first that day shouldn't have counted either. Olly Norwood from a corner that was a clear goal kick.

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:49 pm
by ClaretTony
I've just added the referees to the list

Kieran Trippier v Charlton (h) (Bobby Madley)
Dean Marney v Birmingham (h) - decision rescinded (Darren Drysdale)
Ben Mee v Blackburn (a) (Andy D'Urso)
Tom Heaton v Brighton (a) (Darren Sheldrake)
Keith Treacy v West Ham (h) (Bobby Madley)
Michael Duff v Huddersfield (a) (Eddie Ilderton)
Ashley Barnes v Everton (a) (Mike Jones)
Michael Duff v West Ham (a) - decision rescinded (Jon Moss)
Jeff Hendrick v Watford (a) (Michael Oliver)
Ashley Barnes v Hull (a) (Martin Atkinson)
Ben Gibson v Olympiacos (a) (Slavko Vinčić)
Robbie Brady v Huddersfield (a) (Mike Dean)

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:53 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
dandeclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:08 pm
The Preston Guy, was the Patron Saint Of Own Goals, old Lord Slabberchops himself, Sean St Ledger. Didn't that lad think he was better than he was? Him and the Goalkeeper - Lonergan - a right pair of egos, with ideas way above their ability.
Didn't Darren Ferguson say something really effing stupid about Lonergan once, overstating his ability?

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:54 pm
by dandeclaret
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:53 pm
Didn't Darren Ferguson say something really effing stupid about Lonergan once, overstating his ability?
£20m goalkeeper wasn’t it? They did similar years before with David Lucas. Both of them were mainly shite.

Just found this https://amp.independent.ie/breaking-ne ... 64688.html

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:55 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
dandeclaret wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:54 pm
£20m goalkeeper wasn’t it? They did similar years before with David Lucas. Both of them were mainly shite.
That's if, I knew it was really stupid, just couldn't remember what it was :lol:

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:24 am
by Staniola
Didn’t Trippier get sent off at Leeds when Charlie Austin scored for us but Andros Townsend won it for them? A Christmas/ new year fixture?

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:28 am
by ClaretTony
Staniola wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:24 am
Didn’t Trippier get sent off at Leeds when Charlie Austin scored for us but Andros Townsend won it for them? A Christmas/ new year fixture?
He did but that was when Howe was manager

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:56 am
by Cubanclaret
Thanks for your help !
There was a few I had forgotten, I guess I’ll was only recalling PL sendings off.
Looks like only 4 and we’re in our 6th season.

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:03 am
by SalisburyClaret
We have the best record for sendings off in the PL-as in number of games since a. Red card

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:27 am
by arise_sir_charge
I always thought that the Preston handball was Tyrone Mears.

The McCann sending off was ridiculous, he was hacked twice in the build up to his lunge and both were let go.

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:31 am
by gtclaret
ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:56 pm
I might have missed one but these are the ones I can recall

Kieran Trippier v Charlton (h)
Dean Marney v Birmingham (h) - decision rescinded
Ben Mee v Blackburn (a)
Tom Heaton v Brighton (a)
Keith Treacy v West Ham (h)
Michael Duff v Huddersfield (a)
Ashley Barnes v Everton (a)
Michael Duff v West Ham (a) - decision rescinded
Jeff Hendrick v Watford (a)
Ashley Barnes v Hull (a)
Robbie Brady v Huddersfield (a)
Ben Gibson v Olympiacos (a)
Didn't Trippier get sent off in a home game against Leeds ?

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:35 am
by Hibsclaret
Our discipline is there for all to see...fantastic and comes right from the man in charge and his standards.

Even when the likes of Lineker has one of his sarcastic swipes like he did regarding Westwood’s fall last week there is essentially a lot of jealousy around how little old Burnley keep defying the odds and their exemplary discipline whilst doing so...

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:36 am
by ClaretTony
gtclaret wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:31 am
Didn't Trippier get sent off in a home game against Leeds ?
No - at Leeds under Howe and at home against Charlton under Dyche

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:04 am
by summitclaret
ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:36 am
No - at Leeds under Howe and at home against Charlton under Dyche
Think the ref at Leeds was Browne. He sang along with their anthem before starting the second half. Trips was booked twice within mins for not a lot.

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:31 am
by ClaretTony
summitclaret wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:04 am
Think the ref at Leeds was Browne. He sang along with their anthem before starting the second half. Trips was booked twice within mins for not a lot.
He was tapping his feet and singing along to Marching on Together. Mark Brown it was who I think was from Hull.

Someone on this thread mentioned Townsend winning it for them. He played and some would say Lee Grant won it for them but those two late goals were Jay Rod og and Ross McCormack.

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:49 am
by cricketfieldclarets
Hibsclaret wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:35 am
Our discipline is there for all to see...fantastic and comes right from the man in charge and his standards.

Even when the likes of Lineker has one of his sarcastic swipes like he did regarding Westwood’s fall last week there is essentially a lot of jealousy around how little old Burnley keep defying the odds and their exemplary discipline whilst doing so...
Have to agree.

We are the time you would expect would get the most reds. Both from a perception perspective and also from the fact that most teams have more skill and pace than us.

I suppose that discipline is exactly why we have stayed up. Its hard enough with 11!

Re: Sendings off under Dyche

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:06 am
by nil_desperandum
arise_sir_charge wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:27 am
I always thought that the Preston handball was Tyrone Mears.

The McCann sending off was ridiculous, he was hacked twice in the build up to his lunge and both were let go.
I also thought it was Mears.
Re: McCann. You're correct about what led up to it, but it was a wild challenge by McCann born out of his frustration at the tackles that had been flying in.