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Guardian comments on last night ...

Post by Clarets4me » Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:23 am

Well over 1,100 comments on last night's match report, of which only about 35 even mention Burnley .... I wonder why it has a reputation for being the paper of the trendy, London, metropolitan liberal elite :roll:

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Re: Guardian comments on last night ...

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:24 am

To be fair, 95% of people who comment know Jack all about football.
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Post by jrgbfc » Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:29 am

Arsenal are a big club with a huge fanbase. Law of averages would say they'd have a lot more fans commenting.
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Re: Guardian comments on last night ...

Post by CleggHall » Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:44 am

It’s in our/your hands to remedy this, we get outnumbered by opposition supporters in all media comments.

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Post by Leisure » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:09 pm

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Post by SammyBoy » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:10 pm

Not sure it's anything to do with the Guardian, it's exactly the same on the comments of the Sky Sports Youtube highlights.

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Post by Quicknick » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:11 pm

I would hope that our fans have sufficient good taste not to read the Guardian.
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Post by Venkys4eva » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:15 pm

Ah the Guardian 'Soft, strong and very long'

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Post by NewClaret » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:25 pm

To be fair, I was surprised to get some nice comments from Evra/Souness.

Switched on Radio 5Live and someone commenting said they thought Sheffield United had to catch Brighton because they thought “Burnley had enough”. Not sure who it was but nice to hear some positivity from outside our ranks.

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Re: Guardian comments on last night ...

Post by claret2018 » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:28 pm

The Guardian sometimes uses big words so I understand why some of our fans are put off by it.
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Re: Guardian comments on last night ...

Post by dsr » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:48 pm

Clarets4me wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:23 am
Well over 1,100 comments on last night's match report, of which only about 35 even mention Burnley .... I wonder why it has a reputation for being the paper of the trendy, London, metropolitan liberal elite :roll:
Nothing to do with being London or liberal. If we'd beaten Man United the posts would all be about Man United. People are interested in the "big six", especially when they don't win; they have little interest in Burnley.

Anyway, Arsenal had a man sent off and Arsenal scored the goal. What did we do? :twisted:
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Post by Bosscat » Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:19 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:28 pm
The Guardian sometimes uses big words so I understand why some of our fans are put off by it.
The Grauniad readers would get on OK on here with all the typos etc 😉

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Re: Guardian comments on last night ...

Post by SalisburyClaret » Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:49 pm

The Guardian has nothing to do with metropolitan elite - it has no shareholders or billionaire owner, meaning their journalism is mainly free from bias and vested interests.

It’s free online too - don’t knock it

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Post by Steddyman » Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:52 pm

CleggHall wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:44 am
It’s in our/your hands to remedy this, we get outnumbered by opposition supporters in all media comments.
It's not a competition, we already won the ony one that matters.
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Post by Stayingup » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:05 pm

Always the same. How can they possibly lose to that lot? Never much credit from these entitled Metropolitan types. Souness put them right.

No doubt they have forgotten we outplayed them at the Turf last season

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Post by Stayingup » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:12 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:49 pm
The Guardian has nothing to do with metropolitan elite - it has no shareholders or billionaire owner, meaning their journalism is mainly free from bias and vested interests.

It’s free online too - don’t knock it
Hmm. Its certainly isnt free from bias BUT its football coverage is among the best.

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Post by Stayingup » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:16 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:28 pm
The Guardian sometimes uses big words so I understand why some of our fans are put off by it.
Unless its tongue in cheek I would say that comment reeks of arrogance.

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Post by Stayingup » Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:18 pm

Quicknick wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:11 pm
I would hope that our fans have sufficient good taste not to read the Guardian.
Yes but Polly put the Kettle on and that little rent a gob dont comment on football.

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Post by LeadBelly » Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:02 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:49 pm
The Guardian has nothing to do with metropolitan elite - it has no shareholders or billionaire owner, meaning their journalism is mainly free from bias and vested interests.

It’s free online too - don’t knock it
I started reading the Graun circa 1965 - it was the go-to paper for northern reasonably educated left-leaning folk.
Read the hard ciopy for decades but, like the Labour Party, in the last 5+ years became hugely the paper for the "Metropolitan Elite" woke left. I continued buying Fri and Saturday editions - for the sports and crosswords- until this summer when its bias became too much for me.

If you read the Below The Line comments online it's apparent that the people there are not a cross section of British folk but a very one-sided bunch- just as much as Mail readers are in their way.

The recent resignation of Suzanne Moore (for, in her opinion, being censored/bullied because she wouldnt exactly toe-the-party-line, tells the story).
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Post by RMutt » Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:18 pm

For balance, I thought I would look at the comments at the end of the match report in the voice of the northern working class, the Mail. 1200 or so comments, Out of the hundred or so I scanned I noticed only a couple about Burnley. Most were from upset Gooners or Spurs etc. fans taking the Michael. My analysis is that this is not just a Guardian thing.

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Post by keith1879 » Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:21 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:28 pm
The Guardian sometimes uses big words so I understand why some of our fans are put off by it.
Also quite small type and relatively few pictures.
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Post by Rileybobs » Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:21 pm

It's almost as if there are significantly more Arsenal fans than Burnley fans. Weird.

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Post by tiger76 » Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:30 pm

dsr wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:48 pm
Nothing to do with being London or liberal. If we'd beaten Man United the posts would all be about Man United. People are interested in the "big six", especially when they don't win; they have little interest in Burnley.

Anyway, Arsenal had a man sent off and Arsenal scored the goal. What did we do? :twisted:
Went home with all 3 points :)

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Post by Paul Waine » Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:57 pm

RMutt wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:18 pm
For balance, I thought I would look at the comments at the end of the match report in the voice of the northern working class, the Mail. 1200 or so comments, Out of the hundred or so I scanned I noticed only a couple about Burnley. Most were from upset Gooners or Spurs etc. fans taking the Michael. My analysis is that this is not just a Guardian thing.
I'll not put a "political" stamp on it: Times on Line has 218 comments at 3:30 pm today. Most are Arsenal fans, some "neutrals" - but not sure whether they just mean neither Arsenal of Burnley fans.

"Kubic rube" has posted: "Arsenal epitomize what happens when a football club becomes a toy in the business portfolio at the hand of an absentee landlord. You see something similar in Manchester United."

Several bemoan the absence of investment in the team. (Why does that sound familiar)?

I've asked what the Arsenal fans think of the fans that were among the 2,000 last night and left early. "Not be sold another ticket, ever." is the response from one.

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Re: Guardian comments on last night ...

Post by Rowls » Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:58 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:28 pm
The Guardian sometimes uses big words so I understand why some of our fans are put off by it.
Yes. The big words is tricky.

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Post by elwaclaret » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:07 pm

Rowls wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:58 pm
Yes. The big words is tricky.
Especially when they spell them wrong

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:11 pm

When the usual suspects see the Gaurdian mentioned on UTC's

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Post by Hipper » Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:29 pm

The woman who commented on the Burnley game on Sky Sports News last night is a former Arsenal player - she mentioned this a number of times - and had to be continually prompted by the show presenter that there was another team playing.

I understand how for the average football fan this result is mostly about the continuation of Arsenal's poor form but a reporter of the game should do just that - report.

Sky seem to have a policy of using people who tick certain boxes but in many cases are unable to perform the basics of describing what they are watching. Surely there are people that can do this?

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Post by SammyBoy » Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:48 pm

The narrative regardless of platform is very rarely ever going to be about a team like Burnley. The Football Weekly podcast once managed to cover Burnley's 1-0 win over Everton (Hendrick scored) without mentioning us once, it was all about the trials and tribulations of Marco Silva.

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Post by Siddo » Tue Dec 15, 2020 3:55 pm

I get the Times every day and the sports journalists are second to none, but to echo one of the above posts, the reports when we play one of the big six quite frequently manage a full report without mentioning any players or the word Burnley.
Also, I love the Times on Saturday but week after week they preview the weekend matches and manage to avoid mentioning us at all!

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