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Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:33 am

Brighton vs Sheffield United
Spurs vs Leicester
Man U vs Weeds
WBA vs Villa

Sky Sports creaming themselves over the Man U game. I bet most Man U fans don't give a crap about their opposition, they see Liverpool and City as their rivals, yet it's all Leeds fans have thought about since they came up.

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by tiger76 » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:43 am

FactualFrank wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:33 am
Brighton vs Sheffield United
Spurs vs Leicester
Man U vs Weeds
WBA vs Villa

Sky Sports creaming themselves over the Man U game. I bet most Man U fans don't give a crap about their opposition, they see Liverpool and City as their rivals, yet it's all Leeds fans have thought about since they came up.
Wins for Brighton & Villa would be most welcome.

No great feelings on the other 2 games, however Liverpool will be happy because one or both of their potential title rivals will be dropping points.

Yep it's Leeds cup final, given how both United's have defended this term, you might need an abacus to count the goals.

Don't forget it's also Scottish Cup Final day, that's the 2020 final in this strangest of years.

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:45 am

tiger76 wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:43 am
Wins for Brighton & Villa would be most welcome.

No great feelings on the other 2 games, however Liverpool will be happy because one or both of their potential title rivals will be dropping points.

Yep it's Leeds cup final, given how both United's have defended this term, you might need an abacus to count the goals.

Don't forget it's also Scottish Cup Final day, that's the 2020 final in this strangest of years.
Brighton are 1 point ahead of us, so a draw best, for me.
Also want Man U to win.
Villa win yep.
Not fussed about the Spurs game.

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by Duffer_ » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:46 am

A Brighton win would be my least favourable outcome. Keep them in the sh*t. Sheff U still have a mountain to climb.

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:47 am

Duffer_ wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:46 am
A Brighton win would be my least favourable outcome.
Agreed.
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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:48 am

I'd rather see a draw in the Brighton/Blades game, that would keep the Seagulls in the mix at the bottom.

Yes, Leeds fans working themselves into a lather at the prospect of playing Manyoo. ;)

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by Bigvince » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:54 am

Brighton v Sheffield Utd, I’d prefer a draw. Keeps Brighton well in the scrap, and doesn’t allow Sheffield to build any momentum
Usually I don’t like Man Utd doing well, but on this rare occasion, I’d like to see a thumping win
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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by NewClaret » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:05 pm

Brighton draw, otherwise a Sheffield win. Certainly not a Brighton win.

United win with Phillips and Klich yellow carded please.

Then a Villa win. And I don’t say that often!

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:07 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:05 pm
Brighton draw, otherwise a Sheffield win. Certainly not a Brighton win.

United win with Phillips and Klich yellow carded please.

Then a Villa win. And I don’t say that often!
Not asking for much then :)

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:16 pm

Never thought i'd say this come on Brighton put another nail in Sheffield Utd coffin we want them to really struggle it will make us staying up so much easier if they get hopelessly cut adrift,i dont think West Brom & Fulham have the squads to stay up so there you have it the three relegation places....simples

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:18 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:16 pm
Never thought i'd say this come on Brighton put another nail in Sheffield Utd coffin we want them to really struggle it will make us staying up so much easier if they get hopelessly cut adrift,i dont think West Brom & Fulham have the squads to stay up so there you have it the three relegation places....simples
A 0-0 will still make them miles behind, with Brighton not pulling clear.

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by NewClaret » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:22 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:07 pm
Not asking for much then :)
Sorry, forgot to add, a Bamford sending off please too.

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by LeadBelly » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:25 pm

I'd prefer a draw in the BHA v Blades game. I think both of these will be our competitors in the bottom half. 2 points between them is betetr than 3 points between them.
If there's 3 points for one of them, Id prefer Sheff U.

Spuds v Leicester, not competitors of ours but, like a fair few others, have Kane & Son in my Fantasy Footy team so lots of goals for Spuds would be good.

Man U v Leeds: I'm not fond of either but would prefer a home win with Leeds conceding a few.

WBA v Villa: away win or draw with Grealish sent off for diving would be good,

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:40 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:18 pm
A 0-0 will still make them miles behind, with Brighton not pulling clear.
Of course it would Frank I just dont want them to get any points 😂

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:41 pm

Lundstram sent off for Blades.

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by Conroysleftfoot » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:41 pm

I've seen worse challenges than that only get a yellow

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by tiger76 » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:51 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:41 pm
Lundstram sent off for Blades.
Does that mean he'll miss the game on the 29th?, if so all the better for us he ripped us apart at their place last year.

Daft challenge to make, and he was always risking a red card, especially with VAR these days.

0-0 at the break, neither of these look any great shakes, and if we can start scoring goals we've every chance of finishing above both come the end of the season.

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by Duffer_ » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:53 pm

I was just about to say it's a yellow all day long but, having looked at the law, was it excessive force?

"Reckless is when a player acts with disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, an opponent and must be cautioned. Using excessive force is when a player exceeds the necessary use of force and/or endangers the safety of an opponent and must be sent off."

There isn't that much between them in terms of the definitions but I assume refs are given examples to aid interpretation. It felt like a yellow to me but hard to argue that it wasn't excessive force. Who would be a ref?

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by Goodclaret » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:57 pm

Conroysleftfoot wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:41 pm
I've seen worse challenges than that only get a yellow
Unfortunately, as we all know, it depends which team you play for whether that's a yellow or red.

For me it is a red due to the "excessive force" ruling but, as you say, it would be a yellow on another day.

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by NewClaret » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:57 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:51 pm
Does that mean he'll miss the game on the 29th?, if so all the better for us he ripped us apart at their place last year.

Daft challenge to make, and he was always risking a red card, especially with VAR these days.

0-0 at the break, neither of these look any great shakes, and if we can start scoring goals we've every chance of finishing above both come the end of the season.
Must do. Great news!

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:58 pm

Can Sheffield United appeal?

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by Billyblah » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:58 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:41 pm
Lundstram sent off for Blades.
Tbh, he deserved to get sent off for that offensively coloured shirt he's wearing :lol:

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by SalisburyClaret » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:59 pm

There may be a few younger Dirty Leeds fans from the Sky generation foaming at the mouth with the prospect of the Man U game but for older fans the Leeds Liverpool game is always the biggest

Got home 10 man Sheff U hold out for a draw now

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by tiger76 » Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:59 pm

Duffer_ wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:53 pm
I was just about to say it's a yellow all day long but, having looked at the law, was it excessive force?

"Reckless is when a player acts with disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, an opponent and must be cautioned. Using excessive force is when a player exceeds the necessary use of force and/or endangers the safety of an opponent and must be sent off."

There isn't that much between them in terms of the definitions but I assume refs are given examples to aid interpretation. It felt like a yellow to me but hard to argue that it wasn't excessive force. Who would be a ref?
10 years ago you might have got away with that type of tackle, but not with the rules these days, anytime you go flying in like he did you're always taking a gamble, and once the ref went to the monitor you knew what was coming. Yes he got the ball, but it's the follow through that's presumably deemed as either dangerous play or excessive force, silly foul to commit when Sheff Utd were actually doing ok for most of that half, they just seem to have pressed the self-destruct button this season, and they continue to make rash decisions.

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by tiger76 » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:02 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:58 pm
Can Sheffield United appeal?
They probably can, but in all honesty I can't see why they'd bother, I can't see why any panel would overturn the ref's decision in this instance.

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by chekhov » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:03 pm

Bigvince wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:54 am
Brighton v Sheffield Utd, I’d prefer a draw. Keeps Brighton well in the scrap, and doesn’t allow Sheffield to build any momentum
Usually I don’t like Utd doing well, but on this rare occasion, I’d like to see a thumping win
Ah, but which united are you referring to??

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by Duffer_ » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:03 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:02 pm
They probably can, but in all honesty I can't see why they'd bother, I can't see why any panel would overturn the ref's decision in this instance.
Spurs successfully appealed Son's red on Gomes but I agree it is highly unlikely to be overturned.

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by Bigvince » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:04 pm

chekhov wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:03 pm
Ah, but which united are you referring to??
Oops! I meant Manchester Utd :D
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Post by TopCat » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:05 pm

Was just thinking he would be a good fit for us wide right, then he gets sent off.

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Re: Lundstram

Post by Bigvince » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:07 pm

You could have put that on the today’s footie thread

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by claptrappers_union » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:13 pm

Going back to Sky Sports creaming themselves over the Man Utd v Leeds ‘rivalry’ - there are no rivalries in football anymore. The fans have the rivalry, today’s players are all BFFs xoxoxo’s.

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by thedoge » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:21 pm

I hope Leeds stuff Man U,can't stand them.

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by Duffer_ » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:22 pm

Fabulous goal from Sheff U

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:23 pm

Very good goal!
Great use of that defenders foot.

Come on, Sheff U. 8-)

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by Safron » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:24 pm

Think the crowd will help Sheffield more than Brighton

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by DomBFC1882 » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:25 pm

thedoge wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:21 pm
I hope Leeds stuff Man U,can't stand them.
Stop swearing 🤦‍♂️
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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:25 pm

Sheff Utd win probably the best result, followed by a draw. If Sheff Utd catch us from this position then to be frank we’ve not done enough to stay up.

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by Conroysleftfoot » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:25 pm

After Brighton's win at Newcastle early in this season I thought they would stay well clear of relegation, how wrong i was.

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by tiger76 » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:25 pm

If Brighton lose this game it will be a really big blow for them, especially given the man advantage they've enjoyed since the 40th minute.

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:26 pm

thedoge wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:21 pm
I hope Leeds stuff Man U,can't stand them.
I hope Manure stuff Weeds. Can't stand them.
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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:27 pm

Well, I wanted a draw, but a SU win is certainly the next best thing. Anything but a Brighton win was decent.

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by claptrappers_union » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:43 pm

I think Brighton will nick one

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:44 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:43 pm
I think Brighton will nick one
Hopefully, draw better for us.

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by claptrappers_union » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:45 pm

There it is, Wellbeck

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by Granny WeatherWax » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:46 pm

Eek, I meant a 94th min equaliser :-)

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:46 pm

No more please.

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:46 pm

Keep at 1-1 please

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by tiger76 » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:47 pm

Aaron Connolly somehow misses an open goal from 5 yards out, sums up Brighton's season.

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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by tiger76 » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:48 pm

Yes 1-1 will do thanks.
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Re: Today's Football 20-12-20

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:48 pm

Looking really shaky now, are Sheff. :(

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