• Today's Football 20-12-20

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:33 am**

Brighton vs Sheffield United
Spurs vs Leicester
Man U vs Weeds
WBA vs Villa

Sky Sports creaming themselves over the Man U game. I bet most Man U fans don't give a crap about their opposition, they see Liverpool and City as their rivals, yet it's all Leeds fans have thought about since they came up.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:43 am**

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:33 am
Brighton vs Sheffield United
Spurs vs Leicester
Man U vs Weeds
WBA vs Villa

Sky Sports creaming themselves over the Man U game. I bet most Man U fans don't give a crap about their opposition, they see Liverpool and City as their rivals, yet it's all Leeds fans have thought about since they came up.

Wins for Brighton & Villa would be most welcome.

No great feelings on the other 2 games, however Liverpool will be happy because one or both of their potential title rivals will be dropping points.

Yep it's Leeds cup final, given how both United's have defended this term, you might need an abacus to count the goals.

Don't forget it's also Scottish Cup Final day, that's the 2020 final in this strangest of years.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:45 am**

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:43 am
Wins for Brighton & Villa would be most welcome.

No great feelings on the other 2 games, however Liverpool will be happy because one or both of their potential title rivals will be dropping points.

Yep it's Leeds cup final, given how both United's have defended this term, you might need an abacus to count the goals.

Don't forget it's also Scottish Cup Final day, that's the 2020 final in this strangest of years.

Brighton are 1 point ahead of us, so a draw best, for me.
Also want Man U to win.
Villa win yep.
Not fussed about the Spurs game.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:46 am**

A Brighton win would be my least favourable outcome. Keep them in the sh*t. Sheff U still have a mountain to climb.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:47 am**

Duffer_ wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:46 am
A Brighton win would be my least favourable outcome.

Agreed.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:48 am**

I'd rather see a draw in the Brighton/Blades game, that would keep the Seagulls in the mix at the bottom.

Yes, Leeds fans working themselves into a lather at the prospect of playing Manyoo.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:54 am**

Brighton v Sheffield Utd, I’d prefer a draw. Keeps Brighton well in the scrap, and doesn’t allow Sheffield to build any momentum
Usually I don’t like Man Utd doing well, but on this rare occasion, I’d like to see a thumping win

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:05 pm**

Brighton draw, otherwise a Sheffield win. Certainly not a Brighton win.

United win with Phillips and Klich yellow carded please.

Then a Villa win. And I don’t say that often!

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:07 pm**

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:05 pm
Brighton draw, otherwise a Sheffield win. Certainly not a Brighton win.

United win with Phillips and Klich yellow carded please.

Then a Villa win. And I don’t say that often!

Not asking for much then

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:16 pm**

Never thought i'd say this come on Brighton put another nail in Sheffield Utd coffin we want them to really struggle it will make us staying up so much easier if they get hopelessly cut adrift,i dont think West Brom & Fulham have the squads to stay up so there you have it the three relegation places....simples

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:18 pm**

Steve1956 wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:16 pm
Never thought i'd say this come on Brighton put another nail in Sheffield Utd coffin we want them to really struggle it will make us staying up so much easier if they get hopelessly cut adrift,i dont think West Brom & Fulham have the squads to stay up so there you have it the three relegation places....simples

A 0-0 will still make them miles behind, with Brighton not pulling clear.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:22 pm**

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:07 pm
Not asking for much then

Sorry, forgot to add, a Bamford sending off please too.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:25 pm**

I'd prefer a draw in the BHA v Blades game. I think both of these will be our competitors in the bottom half. 2 points between them is betetr than 3 points between them.
If there's 3 points for one of them, Id prefer Sheff U.

Spuds v Leicester, not competitors of ours but, like a fair few others, have Kane & Son in my Fantasy Footy team so lots of goals for Spuds would be good.

Man U v Leeds: I'm not fond of either but would prefer a home win with Leeds conceding a few.

WBA v Villa: away win or draw with Grealish sent off for diving would be good,

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:40 pm**

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:18 pm
A 0-0 will still make them miles behind, with Brighton not pulling clear.

Of course it would Frank I just dont want them to get any points

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:41 pm**

Lundstram sent off for Blades.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:41 pm**

I've seen worse challenges than that only get a yellow

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:51 pm**

ElectroClaret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:41 pm
Lundstram sent off for Blades.

Does that mean he'll miss the game on the 29th?, if so all the better for us he ripped us apart at their place last year.

Daft challenge to make, and he was always risking a red card, especially with VAR these days.

0-0 at the break, neither of these look any great shakes, and if we can start scoring goals we've every chance of finishing above both come the end of the season.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:53 pm**

I was just about to say it's a yellow all day long but, having looked at the law, was it excessive force?

"Reckless is when a player acts with disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, an opponent and must be cautioned. Using excessive force is when a player exceeds the necessary use of force and/or endangers the safety of an opponent and must be sent off."

There isn't that much between them in terms of the definitions but I assume refs are given examples to aid interpretation. It felt like a yellow to me but hard to argue that it wasn't excessive force. Who would be a ref?

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:57 pm**

Conroysleftfoot wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:41 pm
I've seen worse challenges than that only get a yellow

Unfortunately, as we all know, it depends which team you play for whether that's a yellow or red.

For me it is a red due to the "excessive force" ruling but, as you say, it would be a yellow on another day.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:57 pm**

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:51 pm
Does that mean he'll miss the game on the 29th?, if so all the better for us he ripped us apart at their place last year.

Daft challenge to make, and he was always risking a red card, especially with VAR these days.

0-0 at the break, neither of these look any great shakes, and if we can start scoring goals we've every chance of finishing above both come the end of the season.

Must do. Great news!

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:58 pm**

Can Sheffield United appeal?

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:58 pm**

ElectroClaret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:41 pm
Lundstram sent off for Blades.

Tbh, he deserved to get sent off for that offensively coloured shirt he's wearing

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:59 pm**

There may be a few younger Dirty Leeds fans from the Sky generation foaming at the mouth with the prospect of the Man U game but for older fans the Leeds Liverpool game is always the biggest

Got home 10 man Sheff U hold out for a draw now

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:59 pm**

Duffer_ wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:53 pm
I was just about to say it's a yellow all day long but, having looked at the law, was it excessive force?

"Reckless is when a player acts with disregard to the danger to, or consequences for, an opponent and must be cautioned. Using excessive force is when a player exceeds the necessary use of force and/or endangers the safety of an opponent and must be sent off."

There isn't that much between them in terms of the definitions but I assume refs are given examples to aid interpretation. It felt like a yellow to me but hard to argue that it wasn't excessive force. Who would be a ref?

10 years ago you might have got away with that type of tackle, but not with the rules these days, anytime you go flying in like he did you're always taking a gamble, and once the ref went to the monitor you knew what was coming. Yes he got the ball, but it's the follow through that's presumably deemed as either dangerous play or excessive force, silly foul to commit when Sheff Utd were actually doing ok for most of that half, they just seem to have pressed the self-destruct button this season, and they continue to make rash decisions.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:02 pm**

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:58 pm
Can Sheffield United appeal?

They probably can, but in all honesty I can't see why they'd bother, I can't see why any panel would overturn the ref's decision in this instance.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:03 pm**

Bigvince wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:54 am
Brighton v Sheffield Utd, I’d prefer a draw. Keeps Brighton well in the scrap, and doesn’t allow Sheffield to build any momentum
Usually I don’t like Utd doing well, but on this rare occasion, I’d like to see a thumping win

Ah, but which united are you referring to??

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:03 pm**

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:02 pm
They probably can, but in all honesty I can't see why they'd bother, I can't see why any panel would overturn the ref's decision in this instance.

Spurs successfully appealed Son's red on Gomes but I agree it is highly unlikely to be overturned.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:04 pm**

chekhov wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:03 pm
Ah, but which united are you referring to??

Oops! I meant Manchester Utd

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:05 pm**

Was just thinking he would be a good fit for us wide right, then he gets sent off.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:07 pm**

You could have put that on the today’s footie thread

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:13 pm**

Going back to Sky Sports creaming themselves over the Man Utd v Leeds ‘rivalry’ - there are no rivalries in football anymore. The fans have the rivalry, today’s players are all BFFs xoxoxo’s.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:21 pm**

I hope Leeds stuff Man U,can't stand them.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:22 pm**

Fabulous goal from Sheff U

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:23 pm**

Very good goal!
Great use of that defenders foot.

Come on, Sheff U.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:24 pm**

Think the crowd will help Sheffield more than Brighton

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:25 pm**

thedoge wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:21 pm
I hope Leeds stuff Man U,can't stand them.

Stop swearing

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:25 pm**

Sheff Utd win probably the best result, followed by a draw. If Sheff Utd catch us from this position then to be frank we’ve not done enough to stay up.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:25 pm**

After Brighton's win at Newcastle early in this season I thought they would stay well clear of relegation, how wrong i was.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:25 pm**

If Brighton lose this game it will be a really big blow for them, especially given the man advantage they've enjoyed since the 40th minute.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:26 pm**

thedoge wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:21 pm
I hope Leeds stuff Man U,can't stand them.

I hope Manure stuff Weeds. Can't stand them.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:27 pm**

Well, I wanted a draw, but a SU win is certainly the next best thing. Anything but a Brighton win was decent.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:43 pm**

I think Brighton will nick one

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:44 pm**

claptrappers_union wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:43 pm
I think Brighton will nick one

Hopefully, draw better for us.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:45 pm**

There it is, Wellbeck

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:46 pm**

Eek, I meant a 94th min equaliser

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:46 pm**

No more please.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:46 pm**

Keep at 1-1 please

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:47 pm**

Aaron Connolly somehow misses an open goal from 5 yards out, sums up Brighton's season.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:48 pm**

Yes 1-1 will do thanks.

Posted: **Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:48 pm**

Looking really shaky now, are Sheff.

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