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Re: Benson

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:29 pm

Playing out of position, pushed on early as a substitute as we reshuffled, out on the left, out on the right but what a good job he did for us tonight. He will have learned a hell of a lot from that.
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Re: Benson

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:31 pm

Giftonsnoidea wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:28 pm
You know nothing about football if your comparing a lad like Benson to hendrick who is a full international, I’d say you are deluded and wrong, put as many smileys as you want , Ronaldo must be like a god to you, no?
I didn’t compare their attributes, I compared the way that they were both moved out to the right side of midfield, both of who were un natural in that position, I’m now certain one of us requires a lie down and I don’t think it’s me.

And for the record I’m a Messi kind of man.

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Re: Benson

Post by dermotdermot » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:31 pm

He was better tonight and put in a good cross that took a deflection and won a corner. Still a worry though.

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Re: Benson

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:32 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:31 pm
I didn’t compare their attributes, I compared the way that they were both moved out to the right side of midfield, both of who were un natural in that position, I’m now certain one of us requires a lie down and I don’t think it’s me.

And for the record I’m a Messi kind of man.
He’s certainly no McNeil I’ll give you that 👍

Hendrick played a lot of his international games on the right
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Re: Benson

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:35 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:31 pm
He was better tonight and put in a good cross that took a deflection and won a corner. Still a worry though.
Worry won't change a thing, Dermott.
Give the lad a break. We've seen a few over the years absolutely battered for not being quite ready.
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Re: Benson

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:36 pm

Giftonsnoidea wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:32 pm
He’s certainly no McNeil I’ll give you that 👍

Hendrick played a lot of his international games on the right
He's a central midfielder playing out of position for a start

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Re: Benson

Post by bobinho » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:36 pm

Did very well tonight in a hard fought game. Inexperience showed a time or two but he’s learning his craft and this game time will give him confidence to push on. Maybe not PL quality, but can do a job for sure. I like him, I have a feeling he will come through for us.

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Re: Benson

Post by fidelcastro » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:40 pm

Personally, once we've finally got everyone fit, I think he'd benefit from a loan spell in the championship.

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Re: Benson

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:41 pm

Giftonsnoidea wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:28 pm
You know nothing about football if your comparing a lad like Benson to Hendrick who is a full international, I’d say you are deluded and wrong, put as many smileys as you want , Ronaldo must be like a god to you, no?
I think you should just remove giftons from your username.
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Re: Benson

Post by dermotdermot » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:42 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:35 pm
Worry won't change a thing, Dermott.
Give the lad a break. We've seen a few over the years absolutely battered for not being quite ready.
I was being complementary about him. Hopefully in the future he won’t be a worry.

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Re: Benson

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:43 pm

dermotdermot wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:42 pm
I was being complementary about him. Hopefully in the future he won’t be a worry.
It's OK, Dermott, I was just being a tool. I do that ;)

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Re: Benson

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:48 pm

Don’t think he played particularly well, nor would I expect him to in a tough game out of position.

What he did do was work incredibly hard and help keep the shape which we all know is massively important to us as a team.
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Re: Benson

Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:48 pm

Albeit I accept he’s out of position, he looks way out of his depth to me.
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Re: Benson

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:49 pm

I don’t really understand how anyone can complain about Bensons performance. It was no worst than any of Hendricks performances there last season.

Difficult to criticise the lad when our record signing was tripping over his own feet

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Re: Benson

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:56 pm

Obviously needs to bulk up physically, but looks neat and tidy and doesn't hide. He wants the ball which a few of our players don't always.
Looks like he could be a decent attacking midfielder in a 3 midfield. But obviously we don't play that way

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Re: Benson

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:59 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:41 pm
I think you should just remove giftons from your username.
Yeah he’s been great these last few games really stood out :roll:

Your posts are absolute nonsense another comparing him to Hendrick , absolutely laughable

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Re: Benson

Post by Milltown1882 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:00 pm

Our fans spent years nailing Scott Arfield and Jeff Hendrick (both international footballers) for being below par being asked to play on the right of midfield when they’re centre midfielders. No surprise in the slightest to see a young kid in his 4th Prem game being slated for the same reason. He was neat and tidy when he could be, difficult game for him.
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Re: Benson

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:00 pm

Played totally out of position for the second game in a row and the game passed him by. Don’t understand why we didn’t include a winger from the under 23’s who could have done that role tonight instead of having two keepers on the bench again.
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Re: Benson

Post by Woodleyclaret » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:01 pm

Put in a good shift and helped prevent Blades overlapping down our right side
An improvement on last game and he looks a good addition to our squad

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Re: Benson

Post by Burnley1989 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:01 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:56 pm
Obviously needs to bulk up physically, but looks neat and tidy and doesn't hide. He wants the ball which a few of our players don't always.
Looks like he could be a decent attacking midfielder in a 3 midfield. But obviously we don't play that way
I agree with you there

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Re: Benson

Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:02 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:49 pm
I don’t really understand how anyone can complain about Bensons performance. It was no worst than any of Hendricks performances there last season.

Difficult to criticise the lad when our record signing was tripping over his own feet
Give it a rest, Hendrick may not have been everyone’s cup of tea but to compare him with Benson is unfair on both of them.

I’ll make a prediction, Hendrick has played over 100 Premier League games, Benson will be lucky to play 20.

That doesn’t make him a bad player, he’s just no up to this level.
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Re: Benson

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:04 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:00 pm
Played totally out of position for the second game in a row and the game passed him by. Don’t understand why we didn’t include a winger from the under 23’s who could have done that role tonight instead of having two keepers on the bench again.
We don't really have one. Max Thompson plays right wing for U23s, he is a forward
the left winger I have seen is 17 year old Owen Dodgson, who also plays left wing back.

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Re: Benson

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:05 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:02 pm
Give it a rest, Hendrick may not have been everyone’s cup of tea but to compare him with Benson is unfair on both of them.

I’ll make a prediction, Hendrick has played over 100 Premier League games, Benson will be lucky to play 20.

That doesn’t make him a bad player, he’s just no up to this level.
They must be deluded relations that blow smoke up his arse at every opportunity ,

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Re: Benson

Post by NewClaret » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:06 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:00 pm
Played totally out of position for the second game in a row and the game passed him by. Don’t understand why we didn’t include a winger from the under 23’s who could have done that role tonight instead of having two keepers on the bench again.
I suspect because Dyche trusts him to do the defensive side of the role more than a winger from the U23’s.

He was defensively very disciplined tonight. I watched him closely and he was constantly looking over his shoulder at the overlapping player, running back to get in shape, doubling up with Lowton. Got caught once or twice, no doubt, but as CT said, will have learned a lot from tonight.

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Re: Benson

Post by warksclaret » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:11 pm

I suspect giving away a penalty with your first touch v Wolves is still on the young mans mind.I think Stephens in his few minutes once again showed his experience, and will see himself unlucky not to come on when Taylor got injured

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Re: Benson

Post by chekhov » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:14 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:19 pm
Anyone criticising our young lads in midfield must be Joshing
Ouch. That was painful.

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Re: Benson

Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:18 pm

I was surprised it wasn’t Stephens as I thought he did well at Leeds.

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Re: Benson

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:20 pm

Giftonsnoidea wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:59 pm
Yeah he’s been great these last few games really stood out :roll:

Your posts are absolute nonsense another comparing him to Hendrick , absolutely laughable
He literally played the exact same position as Hendrick how can you not compare them?

Again the no idea part of your username is spot on. Maybe you should find another sport you clearly haven’t got a clue what your talking about.

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Re: Benson

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:21 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:18 pm
I was surprised it wasn’t Stephens as I thought he did well at Leeds.
I don't think Stephens can play wide, and we certainly should not move Brownhill.
For what it's worth, I thought the tactics were pretty good tonight, we've given away possession to much better sides than Sheff Utd and shut them out.

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Re: Benson

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:22 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:20 pm
He literally played the exact same position as Hendrick how can you not compare them?

Again the no idea part of your username is spot on. Maybe you should find another sport you clearly haven’t got a clue what your talking about.
Ok dumbo

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Re: Benson

Post by DCWat » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:24 pm

He shouldn’t be anywhere near the first eleven but hes shown enough in the time that he has been to suggest that he has a decent career ahead of him.

It says more for our lack of recruitment that he’s in and around the first team so quickly. It’ll do him the world of good though and hopefully in a year or two, he’ll be pushing for a first team spot, and not because of a lack of bodies.

He’s done himself proud and I hope he can push on.
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Re: Benson

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:24 pm

Giftonsnoidea wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:22 pm
Ok dumbo
Says that I have no idea comparing two players that played the same position then calls me a dumbo.

Try watching the match next time Noidea

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Re: Benson

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:25 pm

Way short of Hendrick levels but is a kid who has potential and may surpass Hendrick in years to come. Obviously a huge problem playing him at this unforgiving level, even Kevin Long, a seasoned international, has badly struggled this season, and players who take the Championship by storm, such as Vydra, also struggle at times.

He will need to bulk up a lot and get his fitness up too, to Brownhill levels, as he matures. Then Benson may have a chance at this level. I’m sure he knows that, as Dyche will.

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Re: Benson

Post by Giftonsnoidea » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:25 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:24 pm
Says that I have no idea comparing two players that played the same position then calls me a dumbo.

Try watching the match next time Noidea
:lol:

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Re: Benson

Post by Bigvince » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:26 pm

I just hope josh benson doesn’t read this board! Give him a break, he’s a young lad thrown in at the deep end, out off position. In a game we couldn’t afford to lose. He rolled his sleeves up and got stuck in. And helped the team to an priceless 3 points
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Re: Benson

Post by BOYSIE31 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:30 pm

Sorry not good enough for me

These last 2 games have shown him to be nothing more than a passenger

Needs loaning out again to maybe a championship or league 1 club
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Re: Benson

Post by DCWat » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:32 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:30 pm
Sorry not good enough for me

These last 2 games have shown him to be nothing more than a passenger

Needs loaning out again to maybe a championship or league 1 club
I wouldn’t have expected much more, but come on!

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Re: Benson

Post by jdrobbo » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:33 pm

I’m convinced that a lot of humble pie will be eaten where Benson is concerned. Looks an excellent player to me. I think we’ve got a gem. Amazed how quickly people are judging!

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Re: Benson

Post by DCWat » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:37 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:33 pm
I’m convinced that a lot of humble pie will be eaten where Benson is concerned. Looks an excellent player to me. I think we’ve got a gem. Amazed how quickly people are judging!
Little terrier with quick feet, a decent eye for a pass and a good engine. Not overawed by any means so obviously plenty of confidence in himself. He’s definitely a chance at this level.

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Re: Benson

Post by ClaretAL » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:37 pm

Bigvince wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:26 pm
I just hope josh benson doesn’t read this board! Give him a break, he’s a young lad thrown in at the deep end, out off position. In a game we couldn’t afford to lose. He rolled his sleeves up and got stuck in. And helped the team to an priceless 3 points
Couldn't have put it better

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Re: Benson

Post by BOYSIE31 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:39 pm

DCWat wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:32 pm
I wouldn’t have expected much more, but come on!
Does nothing out wide apart from defend

We just got played off the park by a team who can't buy a win

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Re: Benson

Post by DCWat » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:40 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:39 pm
Does nothing out wide apart from defend

We just got played off the park by a team who can't buy a win
He’s not a wide player! If that’s played off the park, I dread to think what you thought about us against Man City.

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Re: Benson

Post by BurnleyFC » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:40 pm

He struggled again, as did a few others.

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Re: Benson

Post by Bigvince » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:41 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:39 pm
Does nothing out wide apart from defend

We just got played off the park by a team who can't buy a win
So you think, but Sheffield United are sat on the coach on their journey back across the Pennines empty handed

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Re: Benson

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:42 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:39 pm
Does nothing out wide apart from defend

We just got played off the park by a team who can't buy a win
Ah well. Good job you don’t get points for that.

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Re: Benson

Post by Burnley1989 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:42 pm

It will be the same posters that moan about the average age of our squad and giving youth a chance

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Re: Benson

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:43 pm

Bigvince wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:26 pm
I just hope josh benson doesn’t read this board! Give him a break, he’s a young lad thrown in at the deep end, out off position. In a game we couldn’t afford to lose. He rolled his sleeves up and got stuck in. And helped the team to an priceless 3 points
Which was my point when I bumped this thread, thankyou

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Re: Benson

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:44 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:39 pm
Does nothing out wide apart from defend

We just got played off the park by a team who can't buy a win
How many points did the team who played us off the park come away with?

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Re: Benson

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:46 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:44 pm
How many points did the team who played us off the park come away with?
Good news is we could just exchange these three points for the ones last Sunday.

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Re: Benson

Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:25 pm

I’ll happily hold my hand up if I’m wrong but I just can’t see it. Doesn’t have one feature that stands out for me.

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