• Benson

Posted: **Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:49 pm**

Seen a few people on social media suggesting he is starting tomorrow. I’m assuming one of Brady or McNeil must be injured.

Has anyone heard anything similar?

Posted: **Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:51 pm**

It sounded like Brady was more likely to be starting than McNeil, so wouldn't be surprised if McNeil is out. Brady left, Brownhill right.

Posted: **Sat Dec 26, 2020 7:56 pm**

Never normally see anything about people starting on social media. So can either assume it’s a load of crap or there is something in.

I wouldn’t mind giving him a go against Leeds.

Posted: **Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:16 pm**

Brady hasn't been out injured for 3 or 4 games so he is due a spell in the stand with his mate JBG. The one who went off at half time v Palace and were told it definitely wasn't an injury, only for him to be out injured ever since. Ideally we off load one or both of them in January and replace them with players who aren't made of glass.

Posted: **Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:24 pm**

McNeil must be due an injury. He's pretty much played every league game since he broke into the team 2 years ago.

Posted: **Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:29 pm**

Herts Clarets wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:16 pm
Brady hasn't been out injured for 3 or 4 games so he is due a spell in the stand with his mate JBG. The one who went off at half time v Palace and were told it definitely wasn't an injury, only for him to be out injured ever since. Ideally we off load one or both of them in January and replace them with players who aren't made of glass.

No one went off at half time against Palace

Posted: **Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:30 pm**

jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:24 pm
McNeil must be due an injury. He's pretty much played every league game since he broke into the team 2 years ago.

He came off in the last game and Dyche said he was a possible to be fit.

Posted: **Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:36 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:30 pm
He came off in the last game and Dyche said he was a possible to be fit.

"Touch and go"?

Posted: **Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:39 pm**

Brady has earnt his starting place on the left if so, hoping he kicks on from here with more goals and assists.Mcneil will have to earn his place back again in the team after a wonderful start in 2018. Healthy competition I would say.

Posted: **Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:56 pm**

That’s far from ideal. Could do with being at full strength for Leeds.

Posted: **Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:14 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:30 pm
He came off in the last game and Dyche said he was a possible to be fit.

Possible, doesn't sound promising enough unfortunately.

Posted: **Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:36 pm**

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:14 pm
Possible, doesn't sound promising enough unfortunately.

I think when Dyche says he’s “waiting on news” or “possible” he means out for three weeks!!

Hopefully he’s back on the grass soon!

Posted: **Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:39 pm**

It’s also possible we could have Jack Cork back in the squad.

Posted: **Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:44 pm**

We would certainly miss McNeil, our creativity is bad enough already.
Here's a thought, if McNeil is out, we don't want to get into a punch for punch, toe to toe game against Leeds or we will lose. How about picking a defensive midfield with one up front:
Pope,
Lowton, Tarkowski, Mee, Taylor,
Brady, Brownhill, Westwood, Pieters, Barnes,
Wood.

Posted: **Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:50 pm**

Zlatan wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:39 pm
It’s also possible we could have Jack Cork back in the squad.

Good call. Hopefully on the bench if Benson’s starting.

Posted: **Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:19 pm**

If Josh starts I hope everyone gets behind the young man... he was done like a kipper for that penalty last week

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Come on you Clarets

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Posted: **Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:32 pm**

Where’s Stephens, is he injured?

Posted: **Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:49 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:29 pm
No one went off at half time against Palace

Correction it was after he had missed an absolute sitter. But the point still stands. We were told JBG wasn't injured, by your good self I do believe. The time when I said we needed 3 players on the right to get to 90 minutes after Brady went off injured after about 10 minutes. We have not seen JBG since he went off in that game.....

Posted: **Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:56 pm**

Herts Clarets wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:49 pm
Correction it was after he had missed an absolute sitter. But the point still stands. We were told JBG wasn't injured, by your good self I do believe. The time when I said we needed 3 players on the right to get to 90 minutes after Brady went off injured after about 10 minutes. We have not seen JBG since he went off in that game.....

Not sure what missing a chance has to do with this but just to confirm that you weren't told by my good self and if I said that I was only repeating what the manager had said. To suggest we haven't seen him since is also incorrect. He's been on the bench and played in two games at Gawthorpe including one this week. The manager has said repeatedly that he's not injured but they are just being careful with him.

Posted: **Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:40 pm**

Giftonsnoidea wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:32 pm
Where’s Stephens, is he injured?

Was on the bench v Wolves.

Not suited to us though, and I don't think we'll be seeing much of him at all barring an injury crisis.

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:29 am**

"That’s not the case at all, we didn’t need three. We picked up one injury. JBG was not injured."

Exactly what you said after the Palace game. And JBG has played zero minutes for the first team since. Sitting on the bench means diddly squat, we have had 2 keepers on there more than once and they had as much chance of playing as JBG did. And kick abouts at Gawthorpe count for the same.

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:05 am**

If McNeil and Brady are injured I'd go

Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
Westwood Benson
Brownhill
Rodriguez Wood Barnes

Same formation we played at Villa in the second half last season just with Brownhill in the attacking mid position instead of McNeil.

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:24 am**

If McNeill is out then would expect Pieters to cover
Hope to see Cork on the bench and if Brady is injured then Stephens into the middle and Brownhill wide right (assuming JBG not considered)

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:05 am**

If McNeil is in doubt give him a rest today and save him for the next 2 home games which are massive 6 pointers.

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:06 am**

If Benson is playing that suggests Brady will be missing as Pieters is the obvious McNeil replacement

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:56 am**

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 26, 2020 11:40 pm
Was on the bench v Wolves.

Not suited to us though, and I don't think we'll be seeing much of him at all barring an injury crisis.

How’s he not entirely suited to us ? 30 plus, good pro, bags of experience ? I would have thought that is much closer to the blueprint than Benson. I’d be surprised if Benson started. Screams Stephens or Pieters with Brownhill out ‘wide’.

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:26 am**

Herts Clarets wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 26, 2020 8:16 pm
Brady hasn't been out injured for 3 or 4 games so he is due a spell in the stand with his mate JBG. The one who went off at half time v Palace and were told it definitely wasn't an injury, only for him to be out injured ever since. Ideally we off load one or both of them in January and replace them with players who aren't made of glass.

It’s a pity somebody doesn’t start a thread about Josh Benson, then we can discuss his involvement in today’s game, instead of going round and round in circles AGAIN! about JBG and Brady’s injury problems

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:38 am**

jojomk1 wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:24 am
If McNeill is out then would expect Pieters to cover
Hope to see Cork on the bench and if Brady is injured then Stephens into the middle and Brownhill wide right (assuming JBG not considered)

The last thing we want to do is move Browhill wide right, play Benson there.

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:47 am**

Mattster wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:05 am
If McNeil and Brady are injured I'd go

Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
Westwood Benson
Brownhill
Rodriguez Wood Barnes

Same formation we played at Villa in the second half last season just with Brownhill in the attacking mid position instead of McNeil.

That team is a good option if we have the injuries confirmed but I do wonder with Leeds still playing like a gung ho championship team if the inclusion of Vydra, who scored well in that league, would be an effective weapon against them when they all attack flat out leaving their defence exposed.
Along with this I think we need a true 4 man midfield

Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Taylor
Benson Brownhill Westy Pieters
Wood Vydra

Jay Rod, Barnes & Stephens in reserve

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:51 am**

Definitely Wood and Barnes up top for me.

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:53 am**

If Cork is anything like fully fit, I can't see him being behind Benson for a minute.

It'll be 442..no doubts at all..with Pieters first in line to replace any injuries in midfield.

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:53 am**

Don’t know why you want to replace Barnes with Vydra, after Barnes’s contribution in the last game. Especially when Leeds are so suspect in set piece situations

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:58 am**

Bigvince wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:53 am
Don’t know why you want to replace Barnes with Vydra, after Barnes’s contribution in the last game. Especially when Leeds are so suspect in set piece situations

No issue with Barnes, just a thought on what Leeds may be susceptible to and thinking whilst attacking flat out they leave themselves exposed to the counter and Vydra is our fastest player, on set pieces there is Wood Tarks and Mee and even Pieters

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:04 am**

BleedingClaret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:58 am
No issue with Barnes, just a thought on what Leeds may be susceptible to and thinking whilst attacking flat out they leave themselves exposed to the counter and Vydra is our fastest player, on set pieces there is Wood Tarks and Mee and even Pieters

Fair do’s, but I can’t wait to see Barnes Wood Tarks and Mee, causing havoc from corners and free kicks!
I’m sure I read somewhere that Vydra was injured

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:04 am**

Bigvince wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:53 am
Don’t know why you want to replace Barnes with Vydra, after Barnes’s contribution in the last game. Especially when Leeds are so suspect in set piece situations

I also think Dyche overplayed Barnes on his return from injury, and that showed in some of his performances but when rested he came back in and played very well.
I could suggest Barnes in and Vydra on the hour, but you know Dyche is liable to put Vydra on too late on 82 minutes when Barnes had been running on empty for 20 mins

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:07 am**

I'd say Barnes and Wood is an automatic choice. One that SD won't even be thinking about. It's the midfield that I'm waiting/hoping on.

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:08 am**

Bigvince wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:04 am
Fair do’s, but I can’t wait to see Barnes Wood Tarks and Mee, causing havoc from corners and free kicks!
I’m sure I read somewhere that Vydra was injured

You may be right on the injury to Vydra, his back I think.
He wasn’t on the bench at Wolves
You do wonder if there’s more to that with the Jan transfer window coming up

I’d be more than happy if we beat Leeds the way you suggest

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:10 am**

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:07 am
I'd say Barnes and Wood is an automatic choice. One that SD won't even be thinking about. It's the midfield that I'm waiting/hoping on.

I know he’ll go Wood Barnes, that’s a fact Frank
If we have all the injuries suggested how would you line up the midfield

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:13 am**

BleedingClaret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:08 am
You may be right on the injury to Vydra, his back I think.
He wasn’t on the bench at Wolves
You do wonder if there’s more to that with the Jan transfer window coming up

I’d be more than happy if we beat Leeds the way you suggest

To be honest, I don’t care how we beat them, as long as we do. UTC.

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:14 am**

BleedingClaret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:10 am
I know he’ll go Wood Barnes, that’s a fact Frank
If we have all the injuries suggested how would you line up the midfield

If you mean both Brady and McNeil out, then considering we'll be defending a large part, Pieters in for McNeil makes sense.

If Brady is also out, then it's square pegs in round holes, assuming JBG can't start.

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:17 am**

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:14 am
If you mean both Brady and McNeil out, then considering we'll be defending a large part, Pieters in for McNeil makes sense.

If Brady is also out, then it's square pegs in round holes.

Like most I don’t want Brownhill moved out wide so I’d put Benson in for the energy against Leeds

I keep thinking that Pieters at LB and Taylor pushed up is a possibility but I’d expect to get a Capital letter telling off from some for that suggestion

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:22 am**

BleedingClaret wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:17 am
Like most I don’t want Brownhill moved out wide so I’d put Benson in for the energy against Leeds

I keep thinking that Pieters at LB and Taylor pushed up is a possibility but I’d expect to get a Capital letter telling off from some for that suggestion

I'd be very very surprised if SD put Benson right midfield, although it's not a bad idea. Brownhill has made one of the most (or the most?) interceptions.

SD suggested positive news regarding McNeil, and I think if we didn't have another game for a week, he'd play. It's the fact we have another 2 winnable huge home games coming up which will undoubtedly be on his mind.

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:44 am**

Bigvince wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:53 am
Don’t know why you want to replace Barnes with Vydra, after Barnes’s contribution in the last game. Especially when Leeds are so suspect in set piece situations

Some seem obsessed with Vydra who gets better and better with each game he doesn't play.

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:58 am**

Been told Benson will start today, Brady and McNeil both out, Pieters in

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:15 am**

claptrappers_union wrote: ↑
Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:58 am
Been told Benson will start today, Brady and McNeil both out, Pieters in

Reckon he can do a good job in Brady's absence?

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:58 pm**

Played poorly IMO

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:00 pm**

The most out of depth I have seen a player in a long time. Played out of position but failing to complete 5-10 yard passes is schoolboy stuff. Very poor.

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:05 pm**

Josh Benson was poor today he seemed way off the pace and its a shame as he has shown promise
Again we waited too long to make changes in a game we should have won
3 points lost

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:16 pm**

Playing him ahead of Stephens was a big error and to change him after 72 mins even more so when he was so obviously struggling all match

Should have drawn the game tho, robbed

Posted: **Sun Dec 27, 2020 3:18 pm**

Very poor send him out on loan and see if he will be good enough.

So far it's a no from me

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