Dyche Post Match interview

[burnleymik]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRt6gsg ... tsFootball

[THEWELLERNUT70]

Ive just listened to the post match interview on Radio 5 Live. Dyche was absolutely blazing

[tiger76]

Rare for Sean to fly off the handle, I guess this shows how irate he is, and given that display of officialdom or lack of I can't say I blame him.

[FactualFrank]

I don't think it's just Burnley fans that agree with him, an awful lot of people on social media today do too.

[ClaretAL]

We need communication from refs when thus hapoens. It was absolutely percent a wrong decision, that has cost us, but even more so we need an explanation as to how VAR didn't get involved surely

[THEWELLERNUT70]

I've even had Barstewards fans contacting me to say we were done over good and proper ffs

[Goodclaret]

When Leeds and Blackburn fans are saying we were robbed then I'm pretty sure we were robbed!

[NewClaret]

I've even had Barstewards fans contacting me to say we were done over good and proper ffs

You know it’s bad when that happens!

[NewClaret]

We need communication from refs when thus hapoens. It was absolutely percent a wrong decision, that has cost us, but even more so we need an explanation as to how VAR didn't get involved surely

Totally agree with this. If the ref apologised to Sean and whoever the head referee is nowadays called him to explain why VAR didn’t look at it (or agree it should’ve), you’d accept it and move on. It’s the fact they are incompetent and then unapologetic that I find so infuriating.

[gandhisflipflop]

Ive just listened to the post match interview on Radio 5 Live. Dyche was absolutely blazing

Is there a link?

[Longsidelenny1882]

Been saying this for years the premiership is corrupt utc

[NewClaret]

Been saying this for years the premiership is corrupt utc

Very much looked that way today.

[NewClaret]

BBC:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/55461318

Much better interview than the Sky one. Called out how little time VAR seemed to look at both incidents when they’ve been taking eternities over others.

[boatshed bill]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRt6gsg ... tsFootball

I can't recall ever hearing an interviewer ending things with "bad luck".

[burnleymik]

I can't recall ever hearing an interviewer ending things with "bad luck".

Yes, very strange ending there.

[TheOriginalLongsider]

VAR didn’t get involved in the knee in the back because ref deemed it a foul on the keeper. So it wasn’t a decision on whether it should be a penalty or not because he thought Mee was the culprit. He blew before the goal was scored so VAR didn’t get involved in that either. What a mess !

[NewClaret]

VAR didn’t get involved in the knee in the back because ref deemed it a foul on the keeper. So it wasn’t a decision on whether it should be a penalty or not because he thought Mee was the culprit. He blew before the goal was scored so VAR didn’t get involved in that either. What a mess !

Surely can investigate a possible penalty though?

[boatshed bill]

Surely can investigate a possible penalty though?

Not if the whistle has already been blown, dead ball. He's seen it as a foul by Mee, I guess.

[NewClaret]

Not if the whistle has already been blown, dead ball. He's seen it as a foul by Mee, I guess.

So VAR can’t investigate anything after the whistle? Seems so strange!

[boatshed bill]

So VAR can’t investigate anything after the whistle? Seems so strange!

I'm only guessing.
Otherwise they've not seen "a clear and obvious error"...what a load of crap that is!!

[Stalbansclaret]

The whistle hadn't blown though when the keeper came out and flattened Mee. Why on earth wasn't VAR identifying that as a "clear and obvious" mistake by the referee in not seeing it ?? I'm still fuming.

[NewClaret]

The whistle hadn't blown though when the keeper came out and flattened Mee. Why on earth wasn't VAR identifying that as a "clear and obvious" mistake by the referee in not seeing it ?? I'm still fuming.

Me too. I can partially forgive Jones for being **** on the basis he’s young and learning, but how can Oliver not resolve that on VAR?

[boatshed bill]

The whistle hadn't blown though when the keeper came out and flattened Mee. Why on earth wasn't VAR identifying that as a "clear and obvious" mistake by the referee in not seeing it ?? I'm still fuming.

Will have to watch it on highlights, did Mee foul anyone before the keeper bumped into him?

[NewClaret]

I'm only guessing.
Otherwise they've not seen "a clear and obvious error"...what a load of crap that is!!

I have no idea. Not sure anyone does anymore though Bill!

[boatshed bill]

And I thought Nick Pope's tackle was fair enough.

[Lowbankclaret]

I thought it was there to look at clear and obvious mistakes. Ref blows for a foul on the keeper when in fact it’s a penalty. Clear and obvious mistake. Should have given the penalty. And they wonder why people are falling out of love with the game. Complete madness today.
Some very powerful people obviously had a lot of money riding on a Leeds win.

[Rileybobs]

Will have to watch it on highlights, did Mee foul anyone before the keeper bumped into him?

No. Mee did absolutely nothing wrong, on first viewing it seemed that the ref should have let the goal stand. On second viewing, having made the mistake of awarding the free kick to Meslier, VAR should have intervened to award a penalty to us for the clear foul on Mee.

I don’t buy all this corruption talk for one minute, but this was rank incompetence from the man in the middle and his assistants both on and off the pitch.

[scouseclaret]

The more I see that incident, the more I’m convinced that, if any other player other than a goalkeeper had gone in like that, he’d be seeing a straight red. The very definition of dangerous play!

[boatshed bill]

I don’t buy all this corruption talk for one minute, but this was rank incompetence from the man in the middle and his assistants both on and off the pitch.

No, if we start believing this we may as well give up watching.

[NewClaret]

And I thought Nick Pope's tackle was fair enough.

Hard one, that, in my view. Wins the ball and if he’d hoofed it 50 yards up field there’s no debate. As it happens, it either deflects off Bamford or marginally skims his foot (I’m not sure) and he then takes him out. That said, is he supposed to back out of the challenge there, does does Bamford run in to him and where’s the consistency with the Pickford incident? Given the protection GK’s get these days, it’s a tough call.

[CrosspoolClarets]

Dyche’s comments seemed very fair to me, including his remark about us not helping ourselves by not making something happen.

Regarding the ref I felt both “goals” (and ironically the commentary where the team like Hinchcliffe usually do Championship games) were Championship decisions made by a Championship ref. It reminded me how good the PL refs usually are, those terrible decisions we saw often in the Championship are now few and far between. Barnes not getting any joy was also Championship style reffing, the PL refs seem to have a decent joint agreement as to what should be a foul and what isn’t.

Should have been 3 points today but I think we’ll finish on about 45-50 points so I doubt it will matter.

[CrosspoolClarets]

Hard one, that, in my view. Wins the ball and if he’d hoofed it 50 yards up field there’s no debate. As it happens, it either deflects off Bamford or marginally skims his foot (I’m not sure) and he then takes him out. That said, is he supposed to back out of the challenge there, does does Bamford run in to him and where’s the consistency with the Pickford incident? Given the protection GK’s get these days, it’s a tough call.

Convention is different though for goalies.

If a goalie cannot take out the ball and some of the man, there would be a dozen penalties per game. The incident with Mee being one example, the Pickford one another that you rightly mention but there Pickford kind of scissor kicked either side of Van Dyke’s knee, totally out of control. There is little else a goalie can do in Pope’s case.

[Bigvince]

Convention is different though for goalies.

If a goalie cannot take out the ball and some of the man, there would be a dozen penalties per game. The incident with Mee being one example, the Pickford one another that you rightly mention but there Pickford kind of scissor kicked either side of Van Dyke’s knee, totally out of control. There is little else a goalie can do in Pope’s case.

I get your point, but the ref gave a foul against Ben Mee, it wasn’t a foul, are keepers supposed to get a free kick every time they drop the ball?

[THEWELLERNUT70]

Me too. I can partially forgive Jones for being **** on the basis he’s young and learning, but how can Oliver not resolve that on VAR?

Because Oliver hates us. Just look at results and poor/controversial decisions whenever he is involved in a Burnley game in any capacity.

A dreadful ref, possibly the most overhyped in PL history

[Burnleyareback2]

If you can stretch your imagination to the Pope penalty being valid, then sure as hell Mee should of received a penalty a few minutes later.

[Nonayforever]

No. Mee did absolutely nothing wrong, on first viewing it seemed that the ref should have let the goal stand. On second viewing, having made the mistake of awarding the free kick to Meslier, VAR should have intervened to award a penalty to us for the clear foul on Mee.

I don’t buy all this corruption talk for one minute, but this was rank incompetence from the man in the middle and his assistants both on and off the pitch.

I'm highlighting this as an example - not getting at Rileybobs.

Do you believe football to be clean ? Chester has outlined many examples where it is far from clean. Where there is big money, there is corruption.

[bfcmik]

Surely can investigate a possible penalty though?

Only if the ref missed the infringement or waved it away. If the ref makes a decision that is wrong ... tough!

[NewClaret]

Only if the ref missed the infringement or waved it away. If the ref makes a decision that is wrong ... tough!

No VAR check for a clear and obvious error by the ref?

[Rileybobs]

I'm highlighting this as an example - not getting at Rileybobs.

Do you believe football to be clean ? Chester has outlined many examples where it is far from clean. Where there is big money, there is corruption.

I don't think that football is clean. But I don't think that the referee has anything to gain by awarding decisions in Leeds' favour rather than ours. You would expect him to be marked down for his incompetence, so surely this is a shot in the foot for his career.

[Murger]

I don't think that football is clean. But I don't think that the referee has anything to gain by awarding decisions in Leeds' favour rather than ours. You would expect him to be marked down for his incompetence, so surely this is a shot in the foot for his career.

You only have to look on social media to see the ref has previous where Leeds are concerned.

[scouseclaret]

Only if the ref missed the infringement or waved it away. If the ref makes a decision that is wrong ... tough!

That’s just not true. The VAR can review any incident which may result in a penalty award, and instruct the referee to review if they believe a mistake has been made.

[redwasp]

Remember the time when we all thought that VAR would do away with controversial decisions and there would be nothing to discuss and Burnley would get loads of penalties.

[Goodclaret]

Remember the time when we all thought that VAR would do away with controversial decisions and there would be nothing to discuss and Burnley would get loads of penalties.

Ha ha, very true. I really wanted it as I thought we'd get far fairer decisions but, as time is going on, I'm starting to wonder if it's working. It makes it harder to take when someone still gets it totally wrong when they've had time to view it a number of times. At least when a ref makes a one off decision "live" you can accept there will be margin of error. The clowns running VAR just create an air of incompetence.

[scouseclaret]

I was exactly the same- thought it would level the playing field - but we're still getting screwed. SD made a good point about the length of time VARs often take to determine the slightest amount of contact or merest feather on the ball, but that decision gets upheld instantly despite Pope getting very obvious, full-on contact with it. They couldn’t possibly have even looked!

The second one is even more bizarre. OK, they can’t award the goal because the whistle has already gone, but it’s a clear and obvious error relating to a possible penalty decision.

[cricketfieldclarets]

I don't think it's just Burnley fans that agree with him, an awful lot of people on social media today do too.

Its rare you see this, but every single comment on that YouTube link is unanimous in backing what Dyche said

[Chester Perry]

Remember the time when we all thought that VAR would do away with controversial decisions and there would be nothing to discuss and Burnley would get loads of penalties.

I remember being lambasted for saying that it wouldnt be