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Re: Pace interview

Post by Untinted Glasses » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:32 am

Got emotional watching that for some reason

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Re: Pace interview

Post by NewClaret » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:33 am

Papabendi wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:27 am
Typical Burnley response. c£200m buy out and its all about the accent.
Don’t think we’ve got any room to talk on accents!

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Re: Pace interview

Post by Bones » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:36 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:58 am
Rossendale I believe
I'll keep an eye out for him in Bacup :D ;)
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Re: Pace interview

Post by Firthy » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:44 am

Bullabill wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:13 am
He said "Y'know" a little too often for my liking
He should have said "Ee thou knows" instead and maybe it would have made some a bit happier about the takeover :)

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Re: Pace interview

Post by Dodobdobodobo » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:48 am

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:09 am
Weird. That’s exactly what he said about Darren Bentley...
Talking about Mr Bentley. I’m surprised he’s missed out on that interview!

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Re: Pace interview

Post by Boss Hogg » Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:20 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:00 am
The thing that's missing from all these comments is the fact that Mike Garlick seems to have found the right sort of investors to take the club forward.

Mike has had so much criticism from some people on these threads, yet without him and the board, we would probably be in League 1 or 2 by now.

So much for the idea that he would sell to just 'Anybody' to make a fortune for himself.

Thank you so much Mike for taking good care of our club.
Let’s not forget Garlick has made himself a very rich man on the back of this. A large part of that is down to some luck with the Dyche appointment. Garlick is a Business man first and fan second. Yes he has kept a steady ship and deserves some credit. As in the other post I think Kilby is the man who really turned things around at the top.

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Re: Pace interview

Post by claptrappers_union » Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:40 pm

A lot of empty platitudes and sales speak - ‘passionate fans’ being the first reason why they bought the club for example... nothing technical either, didn’t seem to demonstrate that he had much knowledge about football given the iScout player recruitment strategy.

But overall, a positive introduction.

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Re: Pace interview

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:43 pm

Dodobdobodobo wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:48 am
Talking about Mr Bentley. I’m surprised he’s missed out on that interview!
He’s tweeted he’s currently self isolating.

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Re: Pace interview

Post by Gordaleman » Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:01 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:20 pm
Let’s not forget Garlick has made himself a very rich man on the back of this. A large part of that is down to some luck with the Dyche appointment. Garlick is a Business man first and fan second. Yes he has kept a steady ship and deserves some credit. As in the other post I think Kilby is the man who really turned things around at the top.
I'm well aware of Barry Kilby's contribution and appreciate it greatly but Mike Garlick (Businessman or not.) has been very careful to hopefully find the right sort of investor to take the club forward and that was the point of my post.

By the way, it was thanks to Barry Kilby's initiative that I found out I had Prostate Cancer and was able to get effective treatment, so personally, I owe him a great deal, possibly my life.
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Re: Pace interview

Post by Dodobdobodobo » Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:23 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:43 pm
He’s tweeted he’s currently self isolating.
Sorry I missed that!

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Re: Pace interview

Post by Tall Paul » Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:49 pm

He looked knackered. Hopefully he can get a good night's sleep soon.

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Re: Pace interview

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:50 pm

as someone who lives in the US it's actually quite refreshing to hear calm and considered responses to questions. That was 80% better than I thought it would be if I'm being honest, no mention of soccer, no mention of winning the league or daft over ambition - proof will of course be in the pudding but it's a nice start.
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Re: Pace interview

Post by JohnDearyMe » Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:37 pm

Bones wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:36 am
I'll keep an eye out for him in Bacup :D ;)
Maybe he can pump some cash into Bacup Borough too?!

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Re: Pace interview

Post by Silkyskills1 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:57 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:58 am
Rossendale I believe
Well, of course. Where else? :lol:
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Re: Pace interview

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Dec 31, 2020 3:21 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:49 pm
He looked knackered. Hopefully he can get a good night's sleep soon.
he read the ALK/Farnell thread, no wonder he is shattered !
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Re: Pace interview

Post by joey13 » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:32 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:47 am
Not if he talks to Dyche he won't - he still says "At Turf' rather than "At t'Turf".
One can only hope this Chairman is talking to Dyche :D

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Re: Pace interview

Post by FCBurnley » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:34 pm

A very standard American style corporate interview. Lots of key words and phrases designed to please. As we all know actions speak louder than words. His first acid test will be the January transfer window. Usually when corporate America is involved it is strongly advisable to ‘follow the money ‘. I will be watching and listening very carefully.

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Re: Pace interview

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:36 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:57 pm
Well, of course. Where else? :lol:
Indeed! Hopefully the valley pubs will open back up soon for him to sample!

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Re: Pace interview

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:36 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:37 pm
Maybe he can pump some cash into Bacup Borough too?!
If he’s moved near Brent Peters you never know!

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Re: Pace interview

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:37 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:20 pm
Let’s not forget Garlick has made himself a very rich man on the back of this. A large part of that is down to some luck with the Dyche appointment. Garlick is a Business man first and fan second. Yes he has kept a steady ship and deserves some credit. As in the other post I think Kilby is the man who really turned things around at the top.
Why do so many say he got lucky with dyche. He choose the right man for the right job at the right time.

Sure none of us wouldn’t have expected as much as we’ve got. But I bet they aren’t surprised.

He deserves all the credit in the world for appointing him.
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Re: Pace interview

Post by Chester Perry » Thu Dec 31, 2020 6:18 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:37 pm
Why do so many say he got lucky with dyche. He choose the right man for the right job at the right time.

Sure none of us wouldn’t have expected as much as we’ve got. But I bet they aren’t surprised.

He deserves all the credit in the world for appointing him.
and sticking with him through thick and thin, even when the relationship became strained
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Re: Pace interview

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Re: Pace interview

Post by Marney&Mee » Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:11 pm

Any truth in the rumour he’s seen how much Bene Burnley fans drink and wants to change our nickname to The Alkies...

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Re: Pace interview

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:12 pm

Untinted Glasses wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:32 am
Got emotional watching that for some reason
I couldn't watch it it. I'm furious

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Re: Pace interview

Post by Marney&Mee » Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:32 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:12 pm
I couldn't watch it it. I'm furious
What’s up BC? They’re an investment vehicle and will have an exit strategy from the off. They’ll want to sell the club and make money. The only was they can do that is by investing, staying in the premier league, bringing more players thru the academy, buying and improving players, making money in Europe. What is not to like? We need this level of investment to move up a level and not continually rely on just getting by. Think Leicester, Wolves and Soton

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Re: Pace interview

Post by bfcjg » Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:42 pm

Fingers crossed they will deliver.

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Re: Pace interview

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:51 pm

Marney&Mee wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:32 pm
What’s up BC? They’re an investment vehicle and will have an exit strategy from the off. They’ll want to sell the club and make money. The only was they can do that is by investing, staying in the premier league, bringing more players thru the academy, buying and improving players, making money in Europe. What is not to like? We need this level of investment to move up a level and not continually rely on just getting by. Think Leicester, Wolves and Soton
I'm just emotional atm I've had a tough year

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Re: Pace interview

Post by Untinted Glasses » Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:17 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 7:12 pm
I couldn't watch it it. I'm furious
Your furious you couldn’t watch it .. or you don’t agree with the takeover and your furious hence not watching it ? I don’t quite understand

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Re: Pace interview

Post by alboclaret » Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:56 pm

Interviewer..... "Alan, why Burnley?"

Alan ...... "because the fans passion"

Aye oh rete pacey lad, does they like gravy son :roll:

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Re: Pace interview

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:58 pm

All these sort of interview are basically pointless, as are manager's pre-match interviews and most everything else you see on club or media releases.

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Re: Pace interview

Post by prettygreenclaret » Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:00 pm

100% agree MandM. Give em a chance and see what develops. Alan Pace seems very level headed and professional and lets be honest, were the board going to sell to any old chancers? No way.

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Re: Pace interview

Post by superdimitri » Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:04 pm

CFS wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 9:45 am
Difficult watch that can't listen to that accent for too long it's annoying sorry. Seems a top bloke though.
Takes over our club offering investment, moves his family to a different country to take a hands on approach. I think he'll want to fit in the best he can, I'm sure there are people out there who have had to adapt to worse accents, including people who don't like the Burnley accent.

I personally don't mind it, there's far worse accents in the UK alone. Next time you move your family to a different country, give up your life to invest in a new job, make sure to do an interview so we can hear your accent so someone can say how much they dislike it!
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Re: Pace interview

Post by Dixie Normous » Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:28 pm

Blowing smoke up our ass , fans passion ? Oh aye nothing to do with money eh ?
Snake oil.

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Re: Pace interview

Post by Cajun » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:12 pm

Having listened to that, I feel very upbeat and positive as my club moves forward into a new year and a new era. I think he comes across very well; spearheading the rise of Salt Lake City to become MLS champions in 2009 at least demonstrates he has some passion for the game and can be a winner; moving his family to the region to take a hands-on involvement in the day-to-day operations of the club certainly demonstrates his commitment at this stage; and as for the way he speaks = well I am an odd one out over here, so all that matters to me is that he sounds confident and the words coming out of his mouth make good sense.
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Re: Pace interview

Post by No Ney Never » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:18 pm

While the club assets maybe used as security, there's no money to finance interest payments through cash flow if we are to have any sort of transfer budget and pay wages.

There's money to be made from a good scouting system and coaching, increasing sponsorship and our corporate offering.

We could better market the club given its history and contributions to the development of the game and it's infrastructure throughout the years. We have a story and could capture the imagination with the right sort of marketing promotions; founder members of the football league, play the worlds oldest football league derby, first club to pay players to play, first club to have its own dedicated training ground, Bob Lord stand was something special at the time when it was built, won the league and every division, won the worlds oldest cup competition, etc.


By far and away the biggest increase in the value of their investment beyond any other initiatives that they could realise is the payout to clubs that will come when the premier league launches its own platform for the broadcasting of games globally. (100m subscribers @ 9.99/ month = £1b). A billion quid per month blows the current domestic and global broadcasting rights out of the water.
Premier league really do need to get a move on with this before the initiative is seized by la liga or the bundesliga.

If they maintain BFC as a premier league club, could quite easily be worth nearly a couple of billion when they decide to exit.
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Re: Pace interview

Post by CFS » Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:20 am

superdimitri wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 10:04 pm
Takes over our club offering investment, moves his family to a different country to take a hands on approach. I think he'll want to fit in the best he can, I'm sure there are people out there who have had to adapt to worse accents, including people who don't like the Burnley accent.

I personally don't mind it, there's far worse accents in the UK alone. Next time you move your family to a different country, give up your life to invest in a new job, make sure to do an interview so we can hear your accent so someone can say how much they dislike it!
I couldn't care less what anyone thinks about my accent as I don't give a toss about you getting annoyed at me for disliking his accent get a life man.

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Re: Pace interview

Post by superdimitri » Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:32 am

CFS wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:20 am
I couldn't care less what anyone thinks about my accent as I don't give a toss about you getting annoyed at me for disliking his accent get a life man.
I'm not annoyed bud, just saying that its just not a nice thing to say about someone who'll want to do there best to fit in. If you've ever live abroad one day you'll know what I mean.

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Re: Pace interview

Post by Hibsclaret » Fri Jan 01, 2021 1:13 am

Sounds very positive to me....

However you could say that the **** down the road got the Indians and we have got the cowboys....let’s hope it turns out muc( better than it has for that lot.

I am quietly confident because Americans want to be successful with the biggest things generally and he was quick to emphasise biggest league in the top sport etc. They don’t usually run things like the car crash down the road, that’s for sure.

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Re: Pace interview

Post by Chester Perry » Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:03 am

No Ney Never wrote:
Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:18 pm
While the club assets maybe used as security, there's no money to finance interest payments through cash flow if we are to have any sort of transfer budget and pay wages.

There's money to be made from a good scouting system and coaching, increasing sponsorship and our corporate offering.

We could better market the club given its history and contributions to the development of the game and it's infrastructure throughout the years. We have a story and could capture the imagination with the right sort of marketing promotions; founder members of the football league, play the worlds oldest football league derby, first club to pay players to play, first club to have its own dedicated training ground, Bob Lord stand was something special at the time when it was built, won the league and every division, won the worlds oldest cup competition, etc.


By far and away the biggest increase in the value of their investment beyond any other initiatives that they could realise is the payout to clubs that will come when the premier league launches its own platform for the broadcasting of games globally. (100m subscribers @ 9.99/ month = £1b). A billion quid per month blows the current domestic and global broadcasting rights out of the water.
Premier league really do need to get a move on with this before the initiative is seized by la liga or the bundesliga.

If they maintain BFC as a premier league club, could quite easily be worth nearly a couple of billion when they decide to exit.
there are a number of complicating factors with this

- no Premier League game gets watched be a global audience of even 30m
- for vast swathes of the world £9.99 is more than they could pay in a year let alone a month - subs would have to be variable by territory
- the Premier League controlling global online distribution would give definitive audiences for matches and lead to demand by those getting the biggest audiences to change the distribution model to reflect those that generate the greater incomes
- no current football league is yet in a position to fund and acquire the the skills/technology to do this,(as are FIFA and UEFA
- Private Equity has got involved in Italy to develop the commercial growth and has offers on the table for both the Bundesliga and La Liga. In Italy that included a partnership with a media organisation to move towards this, however the share of the company sold to PE in Italy is not enough to get them to release the funds to provide total scalability. In fact the Invested money is being used by clubs to keep them afloat and develop their own infrastructure.
- Covid has facilitated the expectation that a significant number of games can and should be free to air
- Covid has also shown that most punters do not want to watch all matches, even when they are free to air - most are only interested in 50 or so each season
- Current Punters want to subscribe to a single aggregator style platform for their football offering - covering all the games they want from leagues and International competition
- Punters under 25 tend to want action clips and highlights immediately after they occur rather than full games

the research behind all this has been posted at length on the MMT thread over the last few years

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Re: Pace interview

Post by aggi » Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:13 am

Chester Perry wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:03 am
there are a number of complicating factors with this

- ...

the research behind all this has been posted at length on the MMT thread over the last few years
And obviously the glaring omission that a worldwide distribution network doesn't come for free. The costs, particularly startup costs, for such a system would be hefty. Not just the technology but the advertising and publicity too.

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Re: Pace interview

Post by diamondpocket » Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:40 am

We are practically the last club in The Prem to sell to foreign owners. No Nay Never has explained our story perfectly. Football more or less dies at this point as a working mans' game at the EPL level as we were the last club to sell out. We have been bought by an investment group that wants to make money by seeing us develop. I sincerely hope it succeeds. But as well all know, high end sport is competitive and doesn't always work out, especially in such a competitive high end PRODUCT, such as the EPL.
I'm cautious & optimistic at the same time. Nothing is guaranteed at this level but our short term future surely gives us a chance to survive & grow at this level with the new investment with Sean in charge. At the same time we could buy loads of mediocre rubbish and follow the path of many other clubs over the last 10/15 years. Without the investment, we were probably relying on Dyche miracles.

But if we do follow NNN's commercialism & adopt the American ideology I will leave you with American Bill Hicks' take on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHEOGrkhDp0

P.S. I really do hate the American ideology of commercialisation of everything! The ALK statement is full of it already: CLARET FAMILY / TO BE INVOLVED WITH / WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME LOOKING / A PATH TO GROWTH /

Involved with until it's good for them!! Not exactly Barry Kilby style is it!! This is their first investment in the EPL and one of the last companies to do it, why is that? Are they a bit small time and do they really have the experience of football/soccer here to take us forward? Only questions to think about.

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Re: Pace interview

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:18 am

diamondpocket wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:40 am
We are practically the last club in The Prem to sell to foreign owners. No Nay Never has explained our story perfectly. Football more or less dies at this point as a working mans' game at the EPL level as we were the last club to sell out. We have been bought by an investment group that wants to make money by seeing us develop. I sincerely hope it succeeds. But as well all know, high end sport is competitive and doesn't always work out, especially in such a competitive high end PRODUCT, such as the EPL.
I'm cautious & optimistic at the same time. Nothing is guaranteed at this level but our short term future surely gives us a chance to survive & grow at this level with the new investment with Sean in charge. At the same time we could buy loads of mediocre rubbish and follow the path of many other clubs over the last 10/15 years. Without the investment, we were probably relying on Dyche miracles.

But if we do follow NNN's commercialism & adopt the American ideology I will leave you with American Bill Hicks' take on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHEOGrkhDp0

P.S. I really do hate the American ideology of commercialisation of everything! The ALK statement is full of it already: CLARET FAMILY / TO BE INVOLVED WITH / WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME LOOKING / A PATH TO GROWTH /

Involved with until it's good for them!! Not exactly Barry Kilby style is it!! This is their first investment in the EPL and one of the last companies to do it, why is that? Are they a bit small time and do they really have the experience of football/soccer here to take us forward? Only questions to think about.
do you go and buy the first car you see or do you do some research, find the most appropriate, find the best value etc ? I know which I do :)

Also, whilst the yanks do like to commercialize a lot of things (and they are exceptionally good at it) for the most part they are first and foremost brought up on having a winning mentality and family (only the last 4 years has been very different).

Stereotypes need to be ditched and we judge them on their actions rather than pre-conceptions imho

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Re: Pace interview

Post by diamondpocket » Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:36 am

Ah, the classic metaphor example that has no relevance at all. What other clubs were for sale & open for takeovers in the EPL in the last year?

WWE is classified as a sport in the US? OR SHOULD THAT BE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY?

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Re: Pace interview

Post by diamondpocket » Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:40 am

Agreed, I'll judge them on their actions and success. As I mentioned in the initial post, it is one of caution, not rejection. But don't tell me the USA is the American dream we all think it is. American society and philosophy has a lot to answer for.

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Re: Pace interview

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:45 am

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Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:36 am
Ah, the classic metaphor example that has no relevance at all. What other clubs were for sale & open for takeovers in the EPL in the last year?

WWE is classified as a sport in the US? OR SHOULD THAT BE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY?
learn how to use the quote function, it's easier for folks to notice replies :)

I get your point 100% about WWE, but footy is also a business/entertainment industry imho. Tell me the last year you genuinely felt that top level football was a sport ? I struggle with it, there are times I watch Dulwitch Hamlet live on youtube (they stream games) just so I can get that feel of it being grassroots sport

As for other clubs, I know Newcastle have had bids, I know Man Utd have had interest, I know Liverpool have had interest and that's without me giving it any real consideration.
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Re: Pace interview

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:47 am

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Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:40 am
Agreed, I'll judge them on their actions and success. As I mentioned in the initial post, it is one of caution, not rejection. But don't tell me the USA is the American dream we all think it is. American society and philosophy has a lot to answer for.
agree a billion percent ! But also don't believe every stereotype (both positive and negative) - I've been proved wrong on both on many occasions !!
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Re: Pace interview

Post by Taffy on the wing » Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:49 am

ClaretTony wrote:
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I'd have more concerns of him understanding my accent then me understanding his. What did anyone expect, a broad Burnley accent?
Nothing less than his Soul..Bared....will do!

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Re: Pace interview

Post by Quicknick » Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:58 am

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Difficult watch that can't listen to that accent for too long it's annoying sorry. Seems a top bloke though.
Did you expect him to loook and coook?

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Re: Pace interview

Post by diamondpocket » Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:00 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:45 am
learn how to use the quote function, it's easier for folks to notice replies :)

I get your point 100% about WWE, but footy is also a business/entertainment industry imho. Tell me the last year you genuinely felt that top level football was a sport ? I struggle with it, there are times I watch Dulwitch Hamlet live on youtube (they stream games) just so I can get that feel of it being grassroots sport

As for other clubs, I know Newcastle have had bids, I know Man Utd have had interest, I know Liverpool have had interest and that's without me giving it any real consideration.
Well, I'm sure that' s down to the COVID pandemic but I agree. I don't live in the Burnley area anymore and regularly watch lower league footy live than higher league footy, it is much more rewarding watching it live. If I could, I would follow us as it's my passion but can only watch online. Lower League watching live is much more pleasurable than top flight online/TV,
Watching us doesn't matter, it's instilled in me to watch us win and I don't care how we do we win. I'm happy to watch us play crap and still win coz I'm a claret and want us to do well. But watching football from a neutral perspective, I'd happily watch the lower league passion live than the sterile EPL/TOP EURO LEAGUES ON TV/ONLINE.

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Re: Pace interview

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:02 am

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Well, I'm sure that' s down to the COVID pandemic but I agree. I don't live in the Burnley area anymore and regularly watch lower league footy live than higher league footy, it is much more rewarding watching it live. If I could, I would follow us as it's my passion but can only watch online. Lower League watching live is much more pleasurable than top flight online/TV,
Watching us doesn't matter, it's instilled in me to watch us win and I don't care how we do we win. I'm happy to watch us play crap and still win coz I'm a claret and want us to do well. But watching football from a neutral perspective, I'd happily watch the lower league passion live than the sterile EPL/TOP EURO LEAGUES ON TV/ONLINE.
yep, agree with all that

edit: I watched a load of non league games last season, was crazy to see players walking to the away end and shake the hands of the 20 supporters who had travelled, filled me with utter joy
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