• Steve Bruce

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:49 pm**

Been sacked apparently

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:51 pm**

Dyche to Newcastle.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:52 pm**

Do you think Big Sam will jump ship at West Brom and go to Newcastle?

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:52 pm**

I’d be surprised if they’ve sacked him. Who else would they get in, Eddie Howe?

They’d be in even more of a relegation fight if they did.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:59 pm**

pushpinpussy wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:49 pm
Been sacked apparently

And you have gleaned this from your m8 with a box at St James park possibly

Sweeping statement with no proof...

Nowt on twitter

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:07 pm**

Stop talking nonsense pal

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:07 pm**

Bosscat wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:59 pm
And you have gleaned this from your m8 with a box at St James park possibly

Sweeping statement with no proof...

Nowt on twitter

Being reported in the Marbella Gazette so anyone who goes there on imaginary holidays are bound to have good contacts

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:07 pm**

I can't see Ashley sacking Bruce it would be expensive and pointless. Bruce will keep Newcastle up and that's all Ashley wants is to stay in the Premier league

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:08 pm**

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:07 pm
Being reported in the Marbella Gazette so anyone who goes there on imaginary holidays are bound to have good contacts

I forgot about that

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:20 pm**

Bruce gone

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:57 pm**

Wellsy1882 wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:20 pm
Bruce gone

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:00 pm**

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:57 pm

Its missed off my question mark

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:15 pm**

I believe it’s the case. Strange sacking. Even more strange than the appointment. He’s not done too bad.

Howe would be an excellent shout. But it just seems cursed that club.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:17 pm**

We need Howe to go to Palace so Sean doesn’t go there!

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:17 pm**

Ridiculous if true. I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole if I was Howe. The only possible reason would be a desire for a different style of play. But they haven't really got the players for it. They'd get ripped to pieces.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:20 pm**

If he’s gone there’s money to be made. You can still get 8/1 on him being the next Premier League manager to go.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:21 pm**

pushpinpussy wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:49 pm
Been sacked apparently

Hes done his time...

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:21 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:20 pm
If he’s gone there’s money to be made. You can still get 8/1 on him being the next Premier League manager to go.

I'm sure if he had gone, the bookies would have surely found out long before somebody on here.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:24 pm**

So is it reyt or not? Can't see anything online.
Just match reports.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:26 pm**

ElectroClaret wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:24 pm
So is it reyt or not? Can't see anything online.
Just match reports.

Nothing has been announced. But it never ceases to amaze me how some people believe anything that they see on Twitter. Usually the same gullible ones who fall for covid-hoax propaganda.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:29 pm**

Is Pardew doing anything?

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:32 pm**

Conroysleftfoot wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:52 pm
Do you think Big Sam will jump ship at West Brom and go to Newcastle?

Can only see BS involved here not BFS.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:34 pm**

Nowt on BBC Sport as yet.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:37 pm**

Just seen him being interveiwed on ssn, only mentioned not buying in transfer market.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:42 pm**

gsyclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:37 pm
Just seen him being interveiwed on ssn, only mentioned not buying in transfer market.

Why? Are we doing a swap with Dyche going the other way?

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:44 pm**

gsyclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:37 pm
Just seen him being interveiwed on ssn, only mentioned not buying in transfer market.

To be fair if true, he won’t be

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:51 pm**

LeadBelly wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:29 pm
Is Pardew doing anything?

Probably still counting the brass Toon paid him in that eight year contract.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:54 pm**

Claretitus wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:34 pm
Nowt on BBC Sport as yet.

Fake news, but he’s walking a tightrope & Sheffield united will win 1 eventually that’ll signal the end if they was to lose i think.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:57 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:20 pm
If he’s gone there’s money to be made. You can still get 8/1 on him being the next Premier League manager to go.

Frank Lampard will probably beat him to it.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:59 pm**

curbishley to replace him no doubt, and lansbury his first signing

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:00 pm**

nyclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:17 pm
We need Howe to go to Palace so Sean doesn’t go there!

Sean is going nowhere. He's just got new owners who have promised some cash. He has made Burnley "his". Why move to Palace or Newcastle? Lunacy !

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:03 pm**

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:20 pm
If he’s gone there’s money to be made. You can still get 8/1 on him being the next Premier League manager to go.

More cahnce of Sean going next, according to the bookies

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:04 pm**

RalphCoatesComb wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:00 pm
Sean is going nowhere. He's just got new owners who have promised some cash. He has made Burnley "his". Why move to Palace or Newcastle? Lunacy !

Maybe he wants discount at Sportsdirect. Fantastic opportunity for the man who can walk on water.... anyone else will not be good enough to be given time to fix it.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:08 pm**

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:54 pm
Fake news, but he’s walking a tightrope & Sheffield united will win 1 eventually that’ll signal the end if they was to lose i think.

Ah! that's their next game is it, well if he can't get a result against the whipping boys he really will be lucky to survive, it's not just the results it's the style of football they're playing that is making the Magpies fans unhappy, yes I know we play a similar style, but we haven't got 2 strikers worth a combined £60m, this is what is frustrating the Newcastle fans, even against some of the smaller sides Bruce adopts a defensive approach, you can understand it to some extent playing City & Liverpool, but not against Leicester as good as Leicester can be on the break, you have to have a go at home surely. 5 PL games without a win now, and dumped out of the EFL Cup by Brentford, if he doesn't turn it around soon the sack awaits I'm afraid.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:20 pm**

RalphCoatesComb wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:00 pm
Sean is going nowhere. He's just got new owners who have promised some cash. He has made Burnley "his". Why move to Palace or Newcastle? Lunacy !

I wonder about SD though. His stock is as high as its ever going to get right now. What if ALK gives him money and he doesn’t spend it well? What if ALK want to push academy players too early and he doesn’t want it? Right now he’s in a good position, he could take his bonus, have time with his family, and sit and wait for the perfect opportunity.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:45 pm**

tiger76 wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:08 pm
Ah! that's their next game is it, well if he can't get a result against the whipping boys he really will be lucky to survive, it's not just the results it's the style of football they're playing that is making the Magpies fans unhappy, yes I know we play a similar style, but we haven't got 2 strikers worth a combined £60m, this is what is frustrating the Newcastle fans, even against some of the smaller sides Bruce adopts a defensive approach, you can understand it to some extent playing City & Liverpool, but not against Leicester as good as Leicester can be on the break, you have to have a go at home surely. 5 PL games without a win now, and dumped out of the EFL Cup by Brentford, if he doesn't turn it around soon the sack awaits I'm afraid.

I think the geordies really took to Rafa so he was always going to be a hard act to follow & bruces Sunderland connections I don’t think are endearing, being the biggest club in the northeast (my opinion) skirting with relegation season after season is underwhelming for them, really they should be trying to break into the top 4 a top 6/8 side somewhere around Everton, I know football doesn’t work out that way but that’s how some of their fans will view things.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:52 pm**

CharlieinNewMexico wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:20 pm
I wonder about SD though. His stock is as high as its ever going to get right now. What if ALK gives him money and he doesn’t spend it well? What if ALK want to push academy players too early and he doesn’t want it? Right now he’s in a good position, he could take his bonus, have time with his family, and sit and wait for the perfect opportunity.

I disagree re SD Charlie. I think with no takeover he was already getting his bags packed and waiting for the right opportunity to walk, probably in the summer, as he believed he'd gone as far as he could with us, but I imagine he's feeling rejuvenated and somewhat excited at the prospect of having a little bit of a cash injection to spend and to see if he can evolve the squad. His potential for job satisfaction will have improved no end and I don't think he'll be looking at any other jobs for a while.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:02 pm**

Dark Cloud wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:52 pm
I disagree re SD Charlie. I think with no takeover he was already getting his bags packed and waiting for the right opportunity to walk, probably in the summer, as he believed he'd gone as far as he could with us, but I imagine he's feeling rejuvenated and somewhat excited at the prospect of having a little bit of a cash injection to spend and to see if he can evolve the squad. His potential for job satisfaction will have improved no end and I don't think he'll be looking at any other jobs for a while.

TBH, I'm not sure that he could take us a lot further even with a bit of a budget.
He's been remarkable with the money he's had, no doubt about that, but "the next level" is another matter.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:29 pm**

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:02 pm
TBH, I'm not sure that he could take us a lot further even with a bit of a budget.
He's been remarkable with the money he's had, no doubt about that, but "the next level" is another matter.

I think the reality of the situation is that there are a limited number of clubs that would employ Sean. The big six will always want to attract managers with champions league experience and have a track record of working at big clubs.

Sean is just not in that league unfortunately at this stage of his career or has the CV that other managers would likely to be attracted to a big 6 vacancy.

I am not saying he isn't capable of doing a good job there but without any connection to those clubs or a pedigree that seems to be important for these roles I think Sean with the takeover plans has nothing to lose by staying put to see whether words and actions align. He knows full well that the grass isn't always greener. Likewise the thing that was likely pushing him away will lessen now given the change in ownership.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:37 pm**

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:02 pm
TBH, I'm not sure that he could take us a lot further even with a bit of a budget.
He's been remarkable with the money he's had, no doubt about that, but "the next level" is another matter.

Did you not see the way we were playing back when Defour and Brady were fit and firing?

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:42 pm**

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:45 pm
I think the geordies really took to Rafa so he was always going to be a hard act to follow & bruces Sunderland connections I don’t think are endearing, being the biggest club in the northeast (my opinion) skirting with relegation season after season is underwhelming for them, really they should be trying to break into the top 4 a top 6/8 side somewhere around Everton, I know football doesn’t work out that way but that’s how some of their fans will view things.

Benitez is a top manager. His record speaks for itself. Very astute tactically as we found out to our cost a few seasons back.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:49 pm**

I love how Benitez gets labelled as "astute" but Bruce as "negative" and out of his depth. Just another example of people being blinded by a foreign coach with a more exotic feel. The reality is that Rafa's football was every bit as dull as that Bruce has produced and the results haven't been much different.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:13 pm**

Silkyskills1 wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:42 pm
Benitez is a top manager. His record speaks for itself. Very astute tactically as we found out to our cost a few seasons back.

If Sean did ever leave I’d give a gold clock for having Rafa as a replacement I rate him that highly.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:14 pm**

clarethomer wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:29 pm
I think the reality of the situation is that there are a limited number of clubs that would employ Sean. The big six will always want to attract managers with champions league experience and have a track record of working at big clubs.

Sean is just not in that league unfortunately at this stage of his career or has the CV that other managers would likely to be attracted to a big 6 vacancy.

I am not saying he isn't capable of doing a good job there but without any connection to those clubs or a pedigree that seems to be important for these roles I think Sean with the takeover plans has nothing to lose by staying put to see whether words and actions align. He knows full well that the grass isn't always greener. Likewise the thing that was likely pushing him away will lessen now given the change in ownership.

The big 6 want managers with CL experience?

Arsenal - Arteta
Utd - Ole
Spurs - Jose but prior to that Poch
Chelsea - Lampard
City - Pep
Liverpool - Klopp but Rodgers before that.

Out of all those managers only 3 had previous CL experience before taking over..... Sort of blows that out of the water tbh.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:17 pm**

levraiclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:37 pm
Did you not see the way we were playing back when Defour and Brady were fit and firing?

Yes, absolutely. Capable of something between 7th and 15th , we are, or have been. at that level. IMO we still could be, we've had remarkably bad luck with injuries.
Breaking into the top 6 or sustaining a position which would see us regularly in the Europa League would be the so-called "next level" for me. This would mean attracting, buying, and paying better players than we have now. would SD be seen as the man to do that? Not sure.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:21 pm**

clarethomer wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:29 pm
I think the reality of the situation is that there are a limited number of clubs that would employ Sean. The big six will always want to attract managers with champions league experience and have a track record of working at big clubs.

Sean is just not in that league unfortunately at this stage of his career or has the CV that other managers would likely to be attracted to a big 6 vacancy.

I am not saying he isn't capable of doing a good job there but without any connection to those clubs or a pedigree that seems to be important for these roles I think Sean with the takeover plans has nothing to lose by staying put to see whether words and actions align. He knows full well that the grass isn't always greener. Likewise the thing that was likely pushing him away will lessen now given the change in ownership.

Arsenal, Man u. and Chelsea have inexperienced managers at CL level.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:21 pm**

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:14 pm
The big 6 want managers with CL experience?

Arsenal - Arteta
Utd - Ole
Spurs - Jose but prior to that Poch
Chelsea - Lampard
City - Pep
Liverpool - Klopp but Rodgers before that.

Out of all those managers only 3 had previous CL experience before taking over..... Sort of blows that out of the water tbh.

All those managers - even Rogers have had previous CL experience in management or as a player.
Not sure Poch did actually but Spurs were not a top 6 side when he arrived.
I do agree though that it’s not necessarily a prerequisite of what the top 6 clubs are looking for in every manager they appoint....but would think that some experience of European competitions would be on their desirable list

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:34 pm**

Spijed wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:21 pm
Arsenal, Man u. and Chelsea have inexperienced managers at CL level.

Doesn’t matter, it’s obvious why the 3 you’ve mentioned have been lucky enough to manage them clubs without previous experience, if arteta & ole & lampard had played for Rotherham, Crawley or Swindon most of their careers the opportunities afforded wouldn’t have happened, it was probably agreed whilst playing coming towards retirement some sort of future management was on the horizon for them. Sean dyche has never played for a top club so he wouldn’t be granted that opportunity without serious cause.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:42 pm**

TVC15 wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:21 pm
All those managers - even Rogers have had previous CL experience in management or as a player.
Not sure Poch did actually but Spurs were not a top 6 side when he arrived.
I do agree though that it’s not necessarily a prerequisite of what the top 6 clubs are looking for in every manager they appoint....but would think that some experience of European competitions would be on their desirable list

Rodgers had zero European football experience as either player or manager.

2009 was was the last time Spurs finished outside the top 6 and Poch had played 32 games in European Cup competition.

All those people stating the top 6 clubs will only want managers with European experience aren't correct, as proven.

Lampard didn't even have that good a season with Derby yet walked into Chelsea, only because of their transfer ban though.

Posted: **Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:43 pm**

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:34 pm
Doesn’t matter, it’s obvious why the 3 you’ve mentioned have been lucky enough to manage them clubs without previous experience, if arteta & ole & lampard had played for Rotherham, Crawley or Swindon most of their careers the opportunities afforded wouldn’t have happened, it was probably agreed whilst playing coming towards retirement some sort of future management was on the horizon for them. Sean dyche has never played for a top club so he wouldn’t be granted that opportunity without serious cause.

Rodgers never played for a top club though.

Neither did Wenger, or Jose.
Not sure Fergie did tbh

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