Billy Balfour wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 10, 2021 9:52 pm

That photo just goes to show how selfish and utterly stupid some people are.

claret2018 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:03 pm

There’s a lot of things that are important to people that aren’t happening at the moment, and football isn’t beyond being put on hold as we’ve seen. Even as a fan it’s feeling like a slap in the face against everyone who’s staying home to see it continue

claret2018 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:03 pm

There’s a lot of things that are important to people that aren’t happening at the moment, and football isn’t beyond being put on hold as we’ve seen. Even as a fan it’s feeling like a slap in the face against everyone who’s staying home to see it continue

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:16 pm

Why is it a slap In the face?

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:21 pm

20210110_220955.jpgThe BBC seem to be unable to get basic geography right ... this was just on the 10 oclock news...

Manchester, Birmingham and Bristol appearently moved into Wales and Newcastle has moved to the other end of Hadrians wall

London and Stevenage now in the midlands

tim_noone wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:31 pm

Your just showing off your curved tv.

RBFC wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:41 pm

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claret2018 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:26 pm

It’s just starting to feel a bit daft to me. You know, because urgent cancer operations are being cancelled to deal with COVID patients and the NHS is on the verge of being completely over-run. We appear to be in a far, far worse place than we were last time the PL was suspended.

The fact that sport offers a bit of “normality” is part of the problem for me. A lot of people don’t seem to understand how serious the current situation is.

I’m not normally one to be bothered by anything like this but it seems like a break is long overdue.

claret2018 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:37 pm

Seems ridiculous that it’s still going on now. What makes sport so special that the rules don’t apply to them?

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:42 pm

But why does stopping elite support benefit any of that.

Also the fundamental difference between now and the first time is that there are specific protocols and regular testing. It’s one of the safest working environments there is at the moment.

If they do stop sport it will feel to me that they are doing it for the sake of it rather then there being any discernible benefit.

claret2018 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:55 pm

Hugging people you don’t live with on TV isn’t a great look at the moment, negative test or otherwise.

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:21 pm

20210110_220955.jpgThe BBC seem to be unable to get basic geography right ... this was just on the 10 oclock news...

Manchester, Birmingham and Bristol appearently moved into Wales and Newcastle has moved to the other end of Hadrians wall

London and Stevenage now in the midlands

claret2018 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:26 pm

It’s just starting to feel a bit daft to me. You know, because urgent cancer operations are being cancelled to deal with COVID patients and the NHS is on the verge of being completely over-run. We appear to be in a far, far worse place than we were last time the PL was suspended.

The fact that sport offers a bit of “normality” is part of the problem for me. A lot of people don’t seem to understand how serious the current situation is.

I’m not normally one to be bothered by anything like this but it seems like a break is long overdue.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:28 pm

Presume they should also stop filming tv programmes then? Scrap the soaps. Stop the news.

I don’t understand the idea some people hold that football thinks that it is above the rules. Football is a form of entertainment enjoyed by millions of people. It clearly isn’t more important than controlling a virus, but there’s a balance to be found.

If it is proven that elite football being played is significantly increasing the risk of the virus being spread then by all means put a stop to it. I just don’t understand the clamour for it to be stopped because ‘people don’t understand how serious the situation is’. That would just be a hollow gesture.

And whilst Dyche’s comments about vaccinations were clumsy and poorly timed, there is merit in the idea that footballers and other entertainers could be vaccinated earlier than some others for the sake of public morale.

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:48 pm

You raise some excellent points Rileybobs, of course we should implement public health measures if it helps to contain this virus, however you have to offer the general public an outlet and more importantly hope, and if sport and other forms of entertainment can be conducted in as safe a manner as possible right now then they should continue.

On the vaccine if the new vaccines allow some leeway once all the priority groups have been accommodated, then perhaps there might be an argument that the entertainment industry, and other people who can't work from home, could be bumped up the list.

Inchy wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:20 pm

My mate works in intensive care in London. Nurses the ratio is 1:1 for icu nurses because of the complexity of the patients and the very dangerous drugs they are on. In London it’s 1:6 with support from non-ICU staff, including dental nurses.

Get the physios and club doctors in hospitals where there are needed.
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Is this the same London that was in Tier 2 only 2 weeks ago?

I`ve said for ages that London`s figures weren`t right, how could the most densely populated place in the country have low COVID figures?

FactualFrank wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:52 pm

I see it as turning on a tap.

You turn on the tap and water comes gushing out all over the place and you're like, "WTF!".. so you turn the tap off. We turned the tap on way way way too quickly last year and the place is now flooded. We needed to turn it on slowly.

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:54 pm

Lets hope everything is fine in 3 weeks, or else what happens then ?

Guppyspotter wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:35 am

Having football on the box probably keeps more people at home which is a benefit.

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:08 am

I don't disagree FF, however I still think on balance elite sport offers more to the participants and the watching masses by continuing then not. As long as the right safeguards are in place obviously.

Firstly most major sports, football, rugby etc, are played outdoors where the risk of spread is greatly reduced, indoor sports might be a different matter, and they could possibly be temporarily halted until the situation improves, if they're being seen as too dangerous at the present moment.

Now if there is evidence to the contrary then I'm more than willing to change my views, but as yet I haven't seen any.

FactualFrank wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:09 am

Not sure mate. And what the hell is Elite sport? Is this a new made-up terminology?

FactualFrank wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:09 am

Not sure mate. And what the hell is Elite sport? Is this a new made-up terminology?

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:53 am

No it doesn't.

I'm out and about daily for work and the roads are busy, as are the shops that are still open.
That includes when football is on.

claret59 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:54 am

The main message is that we need to stop at home unless there is a pressing need not to. Elite sport is not a pressing need but some kind of concession. What has not been mentioned on here when for professional football are the risks associated with all the teams from the Leagues travelling hundreds of miles up and down the country to fulfill the fixture lists. On a rough calculation there will be about 100 coaches each carrying teams of about 40 people to all the games from PL to junior fixtures twice a week. How can this be conducive to helping stop the spread of this awful disease especially with many clubs already affected by coronavirus?

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:39 am

In the meantime in other news a lonely old bloke on a internet forum claims he has 3 million followers on Twitter including Kylie Minogue

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:20 am

Only following one Steve and has zero followers

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I did my research ... he denies its him but we know better theres only one FF

ClaretAndJew wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:59 am

To be fair, FF does have a very popular Twitter account, https://twitter.com/Fact

2.9 million followers.

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:46 am

Do you not understand the concept of satire and humour

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:20 am

Only following one Steve and has zero followers

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I did my research ... he denies its him but we know better theres only one FF

karatekid wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:25 am

You must stay at home unless you cannot work from home. Footballers cannot obviously work from home so they have to leave the house to go to work. Alongside all the millions employed in manufacturing and construction etc.
I cannot work from home and some of the factories I visit are bursting at the seams with employees whilst trying to follow guidelines. It is impossible to work and keep 2 metres apart in many indoor places.
There is a bigger risk of transmission in an indoor factory environment on a 8 hour shift than footballers being outside in the fresh air with a limited amount of people around.

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:26 am

You’ll forgive me for saying, not the most scientific of studies.

There are lots of other things that are less regulated that should stop prior to elite sport.

claret2018 wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:03 am

Can bar staff work from home? Chefs? Waiters? Just because you can’t work from home doesn’t mean you absolutely need to go to work. The world isn’t going to stop turning because football isn’t on telly for a few weeks, despite what some people on here think.

Boss Hogg wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:23 am

With all the spitting and hugging going on and the breaches we have seen with professional footballers I think the grass roots junior football I have been attending until last week is safer.