Burnley v Manchester United - Match Thread
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Re: VAR comes good
Shaw should have gone so still not done the job properly
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Re: Burnley v Manchester United - Match Thread
Boy a good game so far , now we have backed off a little but HT came at a good time i must say
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Off my tv lolburnleymik wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:56 pmWas that Ben Mee or Bruce Lee? hahaha That's commitment.
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Re: Burnley v Manchester United - Match Thread
Decent 1st half we've limited them to very little, and at times have posed a threat, set-pieces look our best bet as we suspected pre match.
And for once we have options on the bench, which we can't often say.
Whatever happens 2nd half we've made it tough for them, and that's all we can ask of the team.
One minor negative is we haven't yet managed an effort on target, tough to win the raffle if you don't buy a ticket, but TBF I'd be reasonably satisfied with a draw from this game, I class this as a free hit, and anything we gain will be a bonus for me.
And for once we have options on the bench, which we can't often say.
Whatever happens 2nd half we've made it tough for them, and that's all we can ask of the team.
One minor negative is we haven't yet managed an effort on target, tough to win the raffle if you don't buy a ticket, but TBF I'd be reasonably satisfied with a draw from this game, I class this as a free hit, and anything we gain will be a bonus for me.
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Re: VAR comes good
If he hadn't been booked, chances are Brady would've been booked or sentclaretburns wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:12 pmShaw should have gone so still not done the job properly
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Re: VAR comes good
Shaw was a yellow no more.
Goal ruled out was wrong in my opinion.
Goal ruled out was wrong in my opinion.
Re: Burnley v Manchester United - Match Thread
Both Sky studio pundits saying Shaw should have gone.
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A real cowards performance from Friend.
How he didn’t show Brady a red originally is baffling.
How he’s gone back, seen the Shaw challenge and not shown a red is worse.
He’s then ruled out Maguires goal because he knows he’s messed up.
How he didn’t show Brady a red originally is baffling.
How he’s gone back, seen the Shaw challenge and not shown a red is worse.
He’s then ruled out Maguires goal because he knows he’s messed up.
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The Shaw incident
Lots to discuss - and I’m more relieved than disappointed in the outcome. I think Shaw got a touch on the ball and his follow through caught JBG which is why he got away with it.
But can the referee, in reviewing a possible red card for one of our players then go back and award a free kick to us for another incident? I know that technically Shaw’s challenge was reviewed for a possible red card but that was only because it led to an incident where Brady could have been sent off.
I thought the only possible outcomes were a red card to Shaw and FK to us, or a FK to Man U as originally given, with or without a red to Brady.
But can the referee, in reviewing a possible red card for one of our players then go back and award a free kick to us for another incident? I know that technically Shaw’s challenge was reviewed for a possible red card but that was only because it led to an incident where Brady could have been sent off.
I thought the only possible outcomes were a red card to Shaw and FK to us, or a FK to Man U as originally given, with or without a red to Brady.
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Good game of football so far...don't like to admit it but, that was a great header from Maguire.
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Re: The Shaw incident
Shaw didn't touch the ball it was JBG left foot
Why would Brady be sent off for an incident that is irrelevant once a foul has been committed before and play should have stopped?
Why would Brady be sent off for an incident that is irrelevant once a foul has been committed before and play should have stopped?
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Re: Burnley v Manchester United - Match Thread
But they only looked at that because they had to go back because of the Brady foul so they weren’t actually doing a red card check with Shaw. Once they decided it was a foul then it was decided it was a yellow and the red card check by VAR for Brady was withdrawn.SussexDon1inIreland wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:09 pmWhen VAR is used it has to be either a red card or nothing it can’t be yellow according to the rules so Utd should have been down to 10 men
According to Clarets Player
Having said that, I thought Shaw was fortunate to get just a yellow.
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Re: The Shaw incident
I think you're half right. Shaw's incident was reviewed for a red card and they realised it WAS a foul, hence Brady's incident is irrelevant
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Game plan working so far but worry about keeping them at bay later as they get more adventurous.
Take a draw now.
Take a draw now.
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We sure are playing more than ok, but set pieces will always be our best threat and therefore the delivery has definitely got to improve second half. Both Brady and Westwood have been guilty and we have to make those opportunities count.
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I thought that straight away
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Westwood needs to take the free kicks when we put our cbs up. Robbie puts them too high and slow. Or get Dwight on for the last 20 minutes.
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Maguire pushed Pieters before heading the ball. Foul. No goal. Good resultLowbankclaret wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:14 pmShaw was a yellow no more.
Goal ruled out was wrong in my opinion.
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Most saying the Maguire goal should have stood. I disagree. Pieters is just starting his leap when the Maguire left hand stops him getting up to the header. We had a similar goal given against us years back when Llorente at Swansea thundered into the back of Ben Mee then got a lift off of him to head a late equaliser.
To me if you are stopping the defender jumping that is a foul.
To me if you are stopping the defender jumping that is a foul.
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I reckon they will get fed up if they don't score and go into their shells, or tire, I don't think they will be as fit as us.
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Loved that ball off the face!Gordaleman wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:17 pmThat's what you get with Ben Mee, total commitment. I don't understand those on here who love to criticise him.
Thinking of changing my named to Mees_Head. I think I could kick him in the head as hard as I could and he'd laugh it off.
Not to mention chucking himself into the goal like a rocket to try stop McGuire's shot.
Hardest and most committed man in the PL!
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My view. Shaws was a red card and their goal was good.
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Maguire clearly used his arm to push Pieters.
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So did pope v Leeds ?superdimitri wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:51 pmI think the challenge after by Brady influenced refs decision on Shaw's challenge. Shaw did win the ball.
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They keep beating us ont’Turf with breakaway goals. Hold fast this half boys. We can do this.UTC
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Re: The Shaw incident
My understanding is they go and check the red card by Shaw. The decision was that it did not have sufficient force in the challenge to be a red, clearly therefore a missed caution that created the opportunity for United. Brady challenge was deemed irrelevant.Rileybobs wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:15 pmLots to discuss - and I’m more relieved than disappointed in the outcome. I think Shaw got a touch on the ball and his follow through caught JBG which is why he got away with it.
But can the referee, in reviewing a possible red card for one of our players then go back and award a free kick to us for another incident? I know that technically Shaw’s challenge was reviewed for a possible red card but that was only because it led to an incident where Brady could have been sent off.
I thought the only possible outcomes were a red card to Shaw and FK to us, or a FK to Man U as originally given, with or without a red to Brady.
Very grey in the laws of the game tbh too
They can be interpreted to permit a yellow
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Re: Burnley v Manchester United - Match Thread
Come on super Burnley
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Maguire got a march on Pieters. He wouldn't have got to it anyway the hand was hardly anything on the back and was convenient to feign a foul. Lucky us.
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Re: Burnley v Manchester United - Match Thread
Utd just trying to move it about a bit more.
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Another off Mee's noggin.
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Re: Burnley v Manchester United - Match Thread
If you were to make a sub, what would it be? I wonder if Jay and McNeil coming on could help.
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Think J rod for wood maybe ?FactualFrank wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:26 pmIf you were to make a sub, what would it be? I wonder if Jay and McNeil coming on could help.
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Re: Burnley v Manchester United - Match Thread
they have moved Pogba up.
FFS get Brownhill or someone to sit on him or he will boss it
FFS get Brownhill or someone to sit on him or he will boss it
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Wood needs to get a bit sharper. Just not in the same mind set when we play quick football.
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Re: Burnley v Manchester United - Match Thread
Come on Burnley
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If the score remains there won't be any substitutes for a while yet.
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Just shows how stupid that decision was, but Pope didn't see a red.
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Vyds on in the 89th minute?FactualFrank wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:26 pmIf you were to make a sub, what would it be? I wonder if Jay and McNeil coming on could help.
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Re: Burnley v Manchester United - Match Thread
Starting 11 cost Burnley £41m
Utd £453 m
Utd £453 m
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Midfielders disappeared
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£41mill vs £463mill
Seems like a fair game
Seems like a fair game
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Just showed the stats on the players, burnley 46m utd 463 m
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Re: Burnley v Manchester United - Match Thread
That's the problem you get with 2 up front, can't spare a midfielder to do that job.HunterST_BFC wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:30 pmthey have moved Pogba up.
FFS get Brownhill or someone to sit on him or he will boss it
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Shocking miss from Cavani, it's not just our strikers who miss sitters I see.
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I know they’ve stepped up a gear or 2 this half, but we’ve been pretty poor.
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Re: Burnley v Manchester United - Match Thread
The linesman missed a clear offside there. Just wasn't in position to see it.
Re: Burnley v Manchester United - Match Thread
Very poor this half.
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There quality coming to the fore pushing us deaper we need someone to get hold of the ball