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Vydra

Post by pushpinpussy » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:36 pm

Off to Germany

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Re: Vydra

Post by Fretters » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:41 pm

There's been a loan offer but we'd rather sell, according to Twitter.

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Re: Vydra

Post by elwaclaret » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:42 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:36 pm
Off to Germany
They asked to loan, Burnley would prefer permanently if he’s to go from what I’ve seen, so not nailed on. As we know Vydra is unhappy with game time.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Duffer_ » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:42 pm

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Re: Vydra

Post by Funkydrummer » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:44 pm

Well, blow me down !!!

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Re: Vydra

Post by nyclaret » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:44 pm

#freevydra

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Re: Vydra

Post by BurnleyPaul » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:46 pm

If he goes then we HAVE to be bringing in another striker bearing in mind how out of form both Barnes and Wood are and their need to be taken out of the firing line....

A case of one out and one in perhaps?
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Re: Vydra

Post by jedi_master » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:46 pm

If Dyche doesn’t rate him (and I think it’s fairly clear he doesn’t), then it’s best for all parties he goes this window.

We absolutely need a centre forward in to replace him, and not some Nahki Wells style clear backup/pointless signing but someone to really put pressure on Wood and Barnes.
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Re: Vydra

Post by ksrclaret » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:53 pm

As much as I like Vydra, he’ll be better off getting out of Burnley.
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Re: Vydra

Post by superdimitri » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:59 pm

There's a thread on the first page of the forum for Vydra:
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Re: Vydra

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:04 pm

What do we expect. Euros coming up, Dyche would literally rather play a donkey (which he is doing at the moment) than give Vydra a fair crack of the whip.
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Re: Vydra

Post by burnleymik » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:04 pm

Never been given a fair crack of the whip at Burnley. Shame.
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Re: Vydra

Post by BurnleyFC » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:09 pm

It’s always a shame when good footballers and good characters leave our club, and Vydra is both.

I hope his next move works out for him and wish him all the best.
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Re: Vydra

Post by Safron » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:16 pm

Big mistake if true what chance have we got to replace him with better quality, with our track record, file under another one of dyche,s not given a proper chance , bloody stinks :twisted:

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Re: Vydra

Post by DCWat » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:17 pm

It’ll be a shame if he does go, without him being given a good run in the team for a prolonged spell. A bit of a go and prove yourself approach, giving him the comfort of knowing that he wouldn’t be hooked the next game, might just have worked wonders for him.

He’s obviously a decent player and I don’t think he’s been given a fair crack of the whip, for whatever reason.

Without being given a fair run, he needs to move on for the sake of his career and further international aspirations.

As mentioned, if he is to leave, we must get someone that’s different to what we have and ready to really push for a place.

Welcome to Burnley Troy! :(

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Re: Vydra

Post by Winstonswhite » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:20 pm

I think Vydra is a fantastic player at the right club and Union could be that club. Can’t be bothered checking but think they’re doing well this season. Plus it’s near home for him. Could be a good move.

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Re: Vydra

Post by MACCA » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:22 pm

Vydra out

Deeney or Crouch in to replace him would be excellent.

If not Vydra out, and no one to replace him but freeze season tickets again would be ok.
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Re: Vydra

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:23 pm

He deserves more game time here, but it's better for him and his mental state if he gets a move.

I know Dyche has blocked several moves for him in the past, hopefully we get a decent fee for him.

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Re: Vydra

Post by wilks_bfc » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:25 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:20 pm
I think Vydra is a fantastic player at the right club and Union could be that club. Can’t be bothered checking but think they’re doing well this season. Plus it’s near home for him. Could be a good move.
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Re: Vydra

Post by Murger » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:26 pm

If he can't get game time, even with the 2 donkeys we have up top at the minute, he absolutely should get out.
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Re: Vydra

Post by ksrclaret » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:29 pm

Yep, just let the lad go. Even he does get a start, everyone knows it won't take much for him to be dropped again. Best for him if he finds a route out now and goes to enjoy his football somewhere.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Steve1956 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:33 pm

DCWat wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:17 pm
It’ll be a shame if he does go, without him being given a good run in the team for a prolonged spell. A bit of a go and prove yourself approach, giving him the comfort of knowing that he wouldn’t be hooked the next game, might just have worked wonders for him.

He’s obviously a decent player and I don’t think he’s been given a fair crack of the whip, for whatever reason.

Without being given a fair run, he needs to move on for the sake of his career and further international aspirations.

As mentioned, if he is to leave, we must get someone that’s different to what we have and ready to really push for a place.

Welcome to Burnley Troy! :(
The last line of your post frightens me please please not Deeney 😏
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Re: Vydra

Post by randomclaret2 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:34 pm

Must be incredibly frustrating for him getting the odd few minutes here and there for a side that doesnt score enough goals
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Re: Vydra

Post by Wellsy1882 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:35 pm

Sent barnes there instead

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Re: Vydra

Post by Wellsy1882 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:39 pm

Wont sell him unless they have a replacement

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Re: Vydra

Post by jojomk1 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:42 pm

BFS saying he has a long list to work through
Maybe Vydra on there

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Re: Vydra

Post by Goodclaret » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:43 pm

Calling Barnes and Wood "Donkeys" is absolutely, bloody amazing!!!! Some fans we've got, I tell thee.
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Re: Vydra

Post by box_of_frogs » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:47 pm

Goodclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:43 pm
Calling Barnes and Wood "Donkeys" is absolutely, bloody amazing!!!! Some fans we've got, I tell thee.
Yeah. What they meant to say was ‘the 2 people whose job it is to score goals and yet they can’t hit a barn door with a banjo’
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Re: Vydra

Post by Burnley1989 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:49 pm

MACCA wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:22 pm
Vydra out

Deeney or Crouch in to replace him would be excellent.

If not Vydra out, and no one to replace him but freeze season tickets again would be ok.
You’ve a real bee in your bonnet about the season ticket price freeze haven’t you mate :lol:

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Re: Vydra

Post by jurek » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:51 pm

If as seems the case Dyche doesn't rate Vydra
then he has to let him go but get someone in who he does rate.
Be ironic if he did let him go and he starts banging them in for his new club.

Either let him go or give him a few starts.

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Re: Vydra

Post by jrgbfc » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:52 pm

Problem is if he goes he'll more than likely be replaced by another big lump, Troy Deeney anyone?

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Re: Vydra

Post by bfcjg » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:52 pm

Wecwill be scouring the for sale lists and looking for one who has just had an operation.

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Re: Vydra

Post by jojomk1 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:13 pm

i think SD would let him go even with no replacement

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Re: Vydra

Post by Goodclaret » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:13 pm

box_of_frogs wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:47 pm
Yeah. What they meant to say was ‘the 2 people whose job it is to score goals and yet they can’t hit a barn door with a banjo’
You've got me there box_of_frogs. Short term struggle for form is absolutely the same as being a donkey. Well played.

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Re: Vydra

Post by MACCA » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:15 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:49 pm
You’ve a real bee in your bonnet about the season ticket price freeze haven’t you mate :lol:
Nope, that's a good thing, and a real feather in the cap for a lit if fans.

It's been the reason used for many a year about why we dont spend much, so I'd rather carry on making sure fans can still afford to attend.
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Re: Vydra

Post by dermotdermot » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:19 pm

You could tell that he was far from happy when he scored the other day. Not a smile to be seen.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:20 pm

He should start not leave ,whatever Sean's issues with playing Mat he needs to get over it

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Re: Vydra

Post by Longsidebogs » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:29 pm

I for one will be sorry to see our best striker leave. It’s such a shame. He has been treated appallingly at Burnley.
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Re: Vydra

Post by warksclaret » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:30 pm

Been a useful part of squad, but his goal conversion (other than in non PL games) is woeful. How many chances since lockdown. Josh King for me-strong quick and versatile, can lead the line or play as a wide striker and takes some knocking off the ball. Ideal for way we play. Him and Jay (fully fit), would be a handful. I am certain King will go this window. We need to move quickly

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Re: Vydra

Post by bobinho » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:31 pm

I think Dyche will struggle if he brings his own man in (i'm assuming Vydra wasn't his idea - you wouldn't talk someone into moving to your club and treat them like this would you?)... Barnes was his, so too is Wood. How does he leave one on the bench? Hasn't managed it so far, even when it's been blatantly obvious that one or both have needed (deserved) it at various times.

I'll be happy for Vydra if he gets a decent move, he has absolutely no chance here, and that's a real shame because from what we have seen, he deserves better than what he's had. Brings something different to the team, but obviously we don't want it. So if we don't want different, what exactly DO we want? Wonder who fits the bill in the replacement stakes?

If we want better than what we have, it'll be £25m+.... either we spend that, or we look at players from league one/championship with a hope of development.

Ill be honest, if thats where we will be looking, i'd sooner see Mumbongo being given some time before we have to spend.

I'm really disappointed with how things have worked out for Vydra. I actually feel quite bad for him and i feel a tad embarrassed about how he's been under utilised.
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Re: Vydra

Post by Bigvince » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:32 pm

Longsidebogs wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:29 pm
I for one will be sorry to see our best striker leave. It’s such a shame. He has been treated appallingly at Burnley.
Best striker :lol:
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Re: Vydra

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:35 pm

we need someone much better than we have, we need proper pace, Vydra clearly isn't terms of pace but his movement is good

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Re: Vydra

Post by DCWat » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:42 pm

bobinho wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:31 pm
I think Dyche will struggle if he brings his own man in (i'm assuming Vydra wasn't his idea - you wouldn't talk someone into moving to your club and treat them like this would you?)... Barnes was his, so too is Wood. How does he leave one on the bench? Hasn't managed it so far, even when it's been blatantly obvious that one or both have needed (deserved) it at various times.

I'll be happy for Vydra if he gets a decent move, he has absolutely no chance here, and that's a real shame because from what we have seen, he deserves better than what he's had. Brings something different to the team, but obviously we don't want it. So if we don't want different, what exactly DO we want? Wonder who fits the bill in the replacement stakes?

If we want better than what we have, it'll be £25m+.... either we spend that, or we look at players from league one/championship with a hope of development.

Ill be honest, if thats where we will be looking, i'd sooner see Mumbongo being given some time before we have to spend.

I'm really disappointed with how things have worked out for Vydra. I actually feel quite bad for him and i feel a tad embarrassed about how he's been under utilised.
That suggests that Dyche’s treatment of Vydra is because he wasn’t his choice of player.

If that were true there’s a whole host of criticisms that could be laid at Dyche’s door from pettiness and stubbornness, through to putting what might be best for the team, second.

I’m not suggesting it’s true but such behaviour could be a catalyst for failing relations with a Chairman.

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Re: Vydra

Post by duncandisorderly » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:45 pm

FC Union. Unsere liebe. Unsere mannschaft unser stolz unser verein union berlin!
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Re: Vydra

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:48 pm

It’s going to be a real shame to see one of the few players that can actually play football leave the club.
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Re: Vydra

Post by BOYSIE31 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:49 pm

Say one thing about him - when he has been on the pitch we seem to automatically play better football

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Re: Vydra

Post by BurnleyFC » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:51 pm

I’m sure Dyche and Pace will have already unearthed a couple of gems with the AI Scout app.

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Re: Vydra

Post by tiger76 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:55 pm

Goodclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:43 pm
Calling Barnes and Wood "Donkeys" is absolutely, bloody amazing!!!! Some fans we've got, I tell thee.
Donkeys most certainly not, horribly out of form definitely, and if we're hoping one or both recapture their previous form we're taking a huge risk with our PL status, if Vydra does go then we'd better have a replacement waiting in the wings, because unless we start scoring goals soon it could be a long 2nd half to our season.

Best of luck to Matej, if or more likely when he moves on, unlike Gibson he's never rocked the boat in public, and whenever he's been called upon he's always given 100%, sadly he's never going to win over SD so it's best for all parties if he moves on to pastures new.

If we get Josh King in then that'll be a great capture, but given our previous forward buys I wouldn't be too hopeful.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Yanquiclaret » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:56 pm

Vydra is a Championship striker at best, his only decent goal scoring seasons are there. We are not the only ones to think so, he couldn't get Premier league starts for Watford or West Brom either. His conversion rate, as stated previously, is poor. Including Watford and West Brom he has made 65 Prem appearances, mostly as a sub, and has scored 6 times. This season he has scored for us against Sheffield Utd and Millwall in the league cup and MK Dons. He is 28 not a developing young player. When he has played in the Premier league as a sub he has not made the case for significant improvement in the minutes he does get. Time to end the fantasy he is the answer up front. If we can get a decent price for him we should.
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Re: Vydra

Post by bobinho » Thu Jan 14, 2021 8:22 pm

DCWat wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:42 pm
That suggests that Dyche’s treatment of Vydra is because he wasn’t his choice of player.

If that were true there’s a whole host of criticisms that could be laid at Dyche’s door from pettiness and stubbornness, through to putting what might be best for the team, second.

I’m not suggesting it’s true but such behaviour could be a catalyst for failing relations with a Chairman.
Mmmm... :roll: None of us really know do we, so we speculate on here. I'm definitely suggesting it's possible. He DOES have a stubborn streak tho... i think we have all seen that.

What REALLY irks me in all this though, is those that are blindly backing the managers choice to not use him when they can surely see that he brings a new dynamic to the team when he plays. Sure he's no Messi or Bebeto, but he's more of a handful for opposing defenders than Wood, and his pace gives them something else to think about. You ask a defender at ANY level what he fears the most.... But he's the manager and can't possibly be getting anything wrong can he? Wonder how many saying this were saying "why doesn't he move Mee to centre half and bring Wardy in at left back?" and we all know how that turned out don't we? My point being here that sometimes even us fans can see whats happening on the pitch and can see where improvements can be made.

For the record, i'm a massive SD fan despite what i have written, and there isn't another manager anywhere i would swap him for. But lets be honest, he ain't perfect...
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