West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by joey13 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:55 pm

If Skol did Saturday afternoons

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by LTUK89 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:55 pm

Two things are clear from that showing. We are a much better side with Vydra and Rodriguez up top - we actually played some football which was refreshing. And two, Pieters is rubbish.

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by Mrpotatohead » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:56 pm

Absolutely **** poor again!

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by Awayfromburnley » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:56 pm

Well on a positive at least that won't paper over the cracks and may loose the purse strings.

Absolutely dire.

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by Parkvilla » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:56 pm

No pace,no creativity, no flair but we are linked to a right back from Everton.Good one Sean.Can someone tell Mr Dyche football is a entertainment business.

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by Tall Paul » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:56 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:54 pm
Well, that was bloody awful.

I think we need about six new players in the next two weeks, starting with two forwards.

Odd on Vyds and JayRod start next week at Fiulham in the Cup. Let's hope they both score and retain their places in the league. (If Vyds is still here.)
We play at Anfield before that.

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by Andreshotboots » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:56 pm

An ageing team is starting to look just that..
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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by jojomk1 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:56 pm

Interesting how Mr Dyche will spin positives out of that

Only one goal in it
Extra mins on the pitch for players coming back from injury
Thought Wood and Barnes wore their defense down perfectly for the new subs

Don't have to travel back up to Whalley tonight - going home from here and hoping to get something nice for tea

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by claptrappers_union » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:56 pm

I’d start the next game with the team that finished today.
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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by willsclarets » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:56 pm

I like any combination of Wood, JRod and Vydra. Wood hasn't been firing but he's our best striker and goalscorer. Barnes has to get dropped, I don't understand his inclusion today tbh

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by DomBFC1882 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:56 pm

Jay and Vyds needed to start. Them 2 lumps up front are utterly useless and offer us nothing at the minute

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:57 pm

Absolute shite midfield offered nothing and we passed to WHU more times than our own team.Credit to Ben Tarks Mat Lowton and Robbie Dwight though

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by clansman » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:57 pm

Dyche has list it . Poor team selection and totally afraid to play football. Time to go Sean.

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:57 pm

Awful.

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by clansman » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:58 pm

Dyche has list it . Poor team selection and totally afraid to play football. Time to go Sean.

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by Masham Ale » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:58 pm

Can’t believe the negativity here. WHU were massive favourites for this game. You can’t realistically expect to go to these games and win every time. I think we played as well as they did and went down to a moment’s lapse of defending. We’ve got at least a couple of key players out and today (again) wasn’t helped by not starting our best side. They’ve defended like we do. But come on, I didn’t think it was that bad. Disappointed yes but I’m not going to slit my wrists.
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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by jurek » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:58 pm

Pretty grim indeed today.
We never looked like scoring but did perform
a touch better when McNeil came on but just couldn't create
many if any chances. Fabianski didn't have to make a save all game.
Vydra did more than Wood or Barnes but still no clear cut chances.

Not sure what Dyche does now?

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by texasbrit » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:58 pm

Dyche at the limit of his abilities defence defence defence no creativity in midfield or up front having said that we did look good at times with Jary Rod, McNeil and Vydra

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by Claretmisterg » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:58 pm

conceding early stuffed us. Was a soft one as well. Didn’t have the confidence to get back into it. Too afraid of conceding another. Looked better second half with subs but still not as good as we can be. Just hope we don’t get pasted by the scouse.
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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by hoskinsgoalatswansea » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:58 pm

To go 1-0 down early against an average team and then create nothing in the rest of the game is abysmal.
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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:59 pm

At least Leeds lost

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by BaronGarcia » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:59 pm

I don't think anyone can defend that performance today. Totally devoid of quality. We are in big trouble if we are going to persist with the Wood and Barnes combo as our preferred starting choice. McNeil made a huge difference, but we all know he is quality. I just don't understand why Burnley players can't pass a simple ball to each other ..... depressed after that. Is it wine o'clock !!!

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by Gordaleman » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:59 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:56 pm
We play at Anfield before that.
Yes, I've corrected the post. but if they don't start at Liverpool, I'll bet they do at Fulham.

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by BabylonClaret » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:59 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:50 pm
Initial team selection has cost us this game.
Not really. Slack defending let the goal in. Once in front they can simply shift to counter and we struggle to break decent sides down.

McNeil made a difference and actually shows how important he is to us (I've been critical of him recently but we look a lot better with him in the side. Both Wood and Barnes looked a little better once Dwight came on.

We miss Taylor a lot though as Pieters grafts but really offer v little in the opponents half.

Again our lack of decent options to change again highlights how **** our transfer windows have been in the last 2 years.

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by clansman » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:59 pm

It doesn’t matter who were favourites. You have to pick a team to play football. We were awful until late on

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:59 pm

The midfield has nobody to pass to, Wood can’t hold the ball up to save his life at the moment , and when he eventually does his pass is horrendous, not sure what Barnes offered today either, but both strikers come deep and we can’t stretch the defence doing this. Hard to watch, and hard to see where goals will come from watching this .
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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by nyclaret » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:00 pm

If we don’t sign any attackers this month we’re down. Simple as that.

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by Murger » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:00 pm

Masham Ale wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:58 pm
Can’t believe the negativity here. WHU were massive favourites for this game. You can’t realistically expect to go to these games and win every time. I think we played as well as they did and went down to a moment’s lapse of defending. We’ve got at least a couple of key players out and today (again) wasn’t helped by not starting our best side. They’ve defended like we do. But come on, I didn’t think it was that bad. Disappointed yes but I’m not going to slit my wrists.
Massive favourites my arse. Can't be bothered reading the rest.

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by claretfern » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:01 pm

"Wood always does well against West Ham" (I never know why such things matter tbh)......I think we can put that to bed now. He doesn't do well against Liverpool as well does he???!!!!

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:02 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:59 pm
Yes, I've corrected the post. but if they don't start at Liverpool, I'll bet they do at Fulham.
Thing is, if they start against Liverpool and don’t score then you’ll get the argument made that they are no better and calls for them to be instantly dropped

Bit like when played Vyds as a line forward against Man City and wonder why never got a touch of the ball

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:02 pm

Really poor, got what we deserved

You can't blame Wood and Barnes. We defend as a team, but we don't attack as a team.
Brady, Westwood, Brownhill, Lowton even Dwight, have no ideas when we cross the halfway line. Lots of huff and puff, but no guile, no skill on the ball. All the passes into the final 3rd are hit and hope, no accuracy at all. We never string passes in the opposition half. They're underhit, overhit, or completely aimless. We run into blind alleys, pick out the first man, get caught in possession as one man tries to dribble through 3.
It's easy for us all to sit at home and pick out all the faults and errors, but until SD sees it the same way as we do, its unlikely to change.

The really sad part is I think they are all better than that. It's almost as if they've had all the attacking nous drained from them , in pursuit of a clean sheet.

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by GeorgeBoydsHeadBand » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:03 pm

Now let's see what ALK and Alan Pace are about. 16 day of the transfer window to go. Over to you Mr Alan Pace

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by ClaretMov » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:03 pm

Masham Ale wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:58 pm
Can’t believe the negativity here. WHU were massive favourites for this game. You can’t realistically expect to go to these games and win every time. I think we played as well as they did and went down to a moment’s lapse of defending. We’ve got at least a couple of key players out and today (again) wasn’t helped by not starting our best side. They’ve defended like we do. But come on, I didn’t think it was that bad. Disappointed yes but I’m not going to slit my wrists.
Do you really need telling why fans are negative, people are ****** off with the lack of effort not the result.
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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by NewClaret » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:04 pm

jurek wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:58 pm

Not sure what Dyche does now?
Stop ****ing around. Sort a ****ing right footed wide player instead of having 3 left footers that have to cut inside. Drop strikers not scoring.

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by Longsidebogs » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:04 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:56 pm
I’d start the next game with the team that finished today.
Yeah. Sensible folk would. Sean won’t.

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by Dark Cloud » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:04 pm

Much better second half, but that wasn't hard with the first half we were served up. McNeil was the difference and he took the game to them, but ultimately it just papered over the massive cracks because we're utterly toothless.

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Post by diamondpocket » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:04 pm

Don't think anyone is complaining about the lack of effort to be honest.
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Post by BabylonClaret » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:05 pm

I can't agree that Jay and Vydra did better. McNeill made the real difference and I don't think either Jay or Vydra really mustered an effort worth anything.
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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:06 pm

diamondpocket wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:04 pm
Don't think anyone is complaining about the lack of effort to be honest.
Maybe he should have said lack of effort going forward

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:06 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:04 pm
Stop ****ing around. Sort a ****ing right footed wide player instead of having 3 left footers that have to cut inside. Drop strikers not scoring.
Those are all great ideas, but you assume that Dyche will pick players fairly and actually give new signings a game within 6 months.

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by jojomk1 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:06 pm

ClaretMov wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:03 pm
Do you really need telling why fans are negative, people are ****** off with the lack of effort not the result.
It's not so much a lack of effort as a lack of ability

Could agree Wood and Barnes put a shift in but the problem is they are just not good enough

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by LTUK89 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:06 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:02 pm
Really poor, got what we deserved

You can't blame Wood and Barnes. We defend as a team, but we don't attack as a team.
Brady, Westwood, Brownhill, Lowton even Dwight, have no ideas when we cross the halfway line. Lots of huff and puff, but no guile, no skill on the ball. All the passes into the final 3rd are hit and hope, no accuracy at all. We never string passes in the opposition half. They're underhit, overhit, or completely aimless. We run into blind alleys, pick out the first man, get caught in possession as one man tries to dribble through 3.
It's easy for us all to sit at home and pick out all the faults and errors, but until SD sees it the same way as we do, its unlikely to change.

The really sad part is I think they are all better than that. It's almost as if they've had all the attacking nous drained from them , in pursuit of a clean sheet.
Dwight McNeil has no guile or skill on the ball? Am I watching the same bloke?

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by burnley007 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:06 pm

Cork needs to be brought back.

We desperately miss Taylor

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by Claretmisterg » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:06 pm

It is a massive disappointment because that was a real opportunity for 3 points.

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by Cubanclaret » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:06 pm

Wowzers. Some really angry people on here - possibly feeling the effects of lockdown?
West Ham have been very good this season. And this really was a game of fine margins. I’m frustrated but the first touch of all 4 of our strikers was lacking today as was the service into the box. McNeil was excellent and we might have been looking at 1-1 with a bit of rub of green and I’m
sure Dyche will reflect on a penalty shout for Barnes at the start of the second half, that happens in the middle of the pitch and a foul is invariably given.
We do need to start scoring soon though and a right winger would be my priority, Brady ok today on endeavour and some tidy play but really poor end product.
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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by warksclaret » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:07 pm

Been calling for a proper striker now for weeks. Once again it stood out today. Wood just does not look interested-I was watching his body language today. He almost looks frightened to make a mistake. I saw a different McNeil today though after having been kept on the bench for two weeks. Just like his old self. I think a rest for Wood would do him the world of good and make him realise he has to fight for his place.

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by superdimitri » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:07 pm

Could be a lot worse lads. Chin up. Seasons not over yet.
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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:08 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:06 pm
Maybe he should have said lack of effort going forward
It's called guile, or nous, not effort

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:10 pm

superdimitri wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:07 pm
Could be a lot worse lads. Chin up. Seasons not over yet.
It’s will be if Fulham beat Chelsea that would put the icing on the cake translating into a poor set of results.

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Re: West Ham v Burnley - Match Thread

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:10 pm

If Wood doesn’t get dropped now he never will, it’s not about being angry or scapegoating individuals , it’s about seeing someone who’s form is abysmal which is another contributing factor to the side performing badly

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