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January/February

Post by ClaretMov » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:29 am

We can probably count Sheff Utd and West Brom relegated unless a miracle happens so That leaves one place left, I think its between us, Fulham and Brighton and possibly Newcastle dragged into it but doubt it, by the end of February we should have a clearer picture of who the 3rd team will be, looking at the Jan/Feb fixtures it's looking very tough for Burnley to pull clear of the drop zone.

Burnley fixtures

Liverpool A
Villa H
Chelsea A
Man City H
Brighton H
Palace H
West Brom H
Spurs A

I think we will get between 6 and 8 point's

Brighton fixtures

Fulham H
Spurs H
Liverpool A
Burnley A
Villa H
Palace H
West Brom A

I think Brighton could pick up 4 and 6

Fulham fixtures

Man utd H
Brighton A
West Brom A
Leicester H
West Ham H
Everton A
Sheff Utd H
Palace A

And Fulham could pick up 6 to 8 point's

Looking at those fixtures I predict Brighton to make up the last relegation place but it will probably go to the last 2 or 3 games

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Re: January/February

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:50 am

Brighton won at Leeds
West Brom won at Wolves
Fulham look to good to be relegated....i wouldn't right them off just yet

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Re: January/February

Post by beddie » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:02 am

My concern and it's a real concen is that we're not creating chances unlike West Brom, Brighton and Fulham.

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Re: January/February

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:05 am

beddie wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:02 am
My concern and it's a real concen is that we're not creating chances unlike West Brom, Brighton and Fulham.
West Brom hammered Wolves on their own ground....all down to the fat messiah,i wonder sometimes why we have never called for him! :lol:

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Re: January/February

Post by ClaretMov » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:07 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:50 am
Brighton won at Leeds
West Brom won at Wolves
Fulham look to good to be relegated....i wouldn't right them off just yet
West Brom won at wolves yes but it was only their 2nd win in 18 games, they are 5 points behind a safety place having played a game more on average than the other team's, they are very poor along with us and Brighton but we have a bit more experience than West Brom over the last few season's in the premier league

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Re: January/February

Post by ClaretMov » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:10 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:05 am
West Brom hammered Wolves on their own ground....all down to the fat messiah,i wonder sometimes why we have never called for him! :lol:

Hammered ???? I hardly call a win by one goal, and two penalties one was very very soft a hammering

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Re: January/February

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:11 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:10 am
Hammered ???? I hardly call a win by one goal, and two penalties one was very very soft hammering
Did you watch it? Could have had many more.

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Re: January/February

Post by ClaretMov » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:18 am

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Steve1956 wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:11 am
Did you watch it? Could have had many more.

I watched the full game did you, I don't think you did, look at the game stats hardly a hammering was it.

No corners
Half the shots to Wolves
Half the possession to Wolves

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Re: January/February

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:25 am

ClaretMov wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:18 am
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I watched the full game did you, I don't think you did, look at the game stats hardly a hammering was it.

No corners
Half the shots to Wolves
Half the possession to Wolves
No didnt watch it...i just made all that shite up😂

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Re: January/February

Post by ClaretMov » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:26 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:25 am
No didnt watch it...i just made all that shite up😂
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: January/February

Post by Bosscat » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:27 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:05 am
West Brom hammered Wolves on their own ground....all down to the fat messiah,i wonder sometimes why we have never called for him! :lol:
Wash your mouth out Steve ....... 🤣🤣🤣

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Re: January/February

Post by Spijed » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:31 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:50 am
Brighton won at Leeds
West Brom won at Wolves
Fulham look to good to be relegated....i wouldn't right them off just yet
Brighton just won their second game in seventeen matches as well.

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Re: January/February

Post by tiger76 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:31 am

I'd write Sheff Utd off, despite their win over Newcastle they'll need an amazing run to survive, and I just can't see it.

That was a big result for West Brom yesterday, and they came from behind to achieve it, the advantage for them is they can at least score goals, yes they're leaky at the back, but if you're scoring you've always got a chance of winning enough games.

Things could of course change, but as the table stands it's looking like 3 from 6, I can't see anybody from Wolves and above getting dragged in despite some of those teams being on poor runs, they've probably got enough credit in the bank to ensure survival.

So it'll probably come down to the head-to-head games between those 6, and also who can pinch points against the other teams, we've done well in the head-to-heads thus far.

Draws at West Brom & Brighton, plus beating Sheff Utd, so if we can maintain that form and rack up a few more wins against our direct rivals, that should give us some breathing space.

The next 4 will be tough, but if we can nick a point or two out of that run, then the 3 games after that should offer us a decent chance of putting a good few points on the board, Brighton, Palace and West Brom are all teams that we can definitely take points from, and indeed we already have this season, so those fixtures shouldn't hold any fear for us normally, the big worry is our lack of goals, no matter who we play we don't look capable of scoring more than 1 a game, and that's being generous, thankfully our defence often keeps us in games, and that's what will give us a fighting chance of survival, that and our experience in a dogfight, if I was a betting man I'd tip us to stay up, but it will be tight, and could even go right to the wire.

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Re: January/February

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:32 am

Spijed wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:31 am
Brighton just won their second game in seventeen matches as well.
Aye! Shocking isn't it?😏

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Re: January/February

Post by Bosscat » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:44 am

Spijed wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:31 am
Brighton just won their second game in seventeen matches as well.
They're on a roll like Sheff U 😏😏😏

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Re: January/February

Post by KlyBfc » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:51 am

We have Fulham to play twice. Win those two games and we should stay up with relative ease as that would be ten points Fulham would have to better us by in the rest of the games. Even a win and a draw (8pts) would probably be enough, as for all Fulham’s turn around in fortune / performances they have been drawing games and over that run we have caught them and gone past them after our horrendous start. The game yesterday was horrid (but we’ve had plenty of them every season) yet against Man Utd (who subsequently went top of the league) we were very competitive firsts half and could easily have nicked a draw. We need to improve in attack but we should be fine.
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Re: January/February

Post by Boss Hogg » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:54 am

Fulham look to have too much to go down. WBA managed to score 3 goals in a game. Stuff of dreams for us.We don’t look remotely like being able to score one at the moment. Us and Sheff U look the two worst teams currently.

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Re: January/February

Post by claret2018 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:55 am

Leeds will be in the mix too
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Re: January/February

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:58 am

Just read Big Sam will pocket 10m if he keeps WBA up, don't write them off just yet.

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Re: January/February

Post by Jakubs Tash » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:58 am

I don’t see the point in making predictions like this. I seem to remember everyone doing this last January too and getting it badly wrong.

We got beat yesterday and the next 4 fixtures are tough but the season doesn’t end then. Long way to go.

Yesterday was very disappointing and frustrating but there’s been a huge over-reaction to the defeat.

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Re: January/February

Post by tiger76 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:05 am

Boss Hogg wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:54 am
Fulham look to have too much to go down. WBA managed to score 3 goals in a game. Stuff of dreams for us.We don’t look remotely like being able to score one at the moment. Us and Sheff U look the two worst teams currently.
Fulham are winless in 7 games since their victory at Leicester back in November, what on earth makes you think they have too much to go down based on that form, West Brom did well yesterday, but 2 of their goals were penalties, yes we need to improve our goal tally, but let's not make these teams out to be better than they are, they're in the bottom 3 for a reason, and that reason is they don't win enough games, if we can't finish above at least 3 of the bottom 6 then we'll rightly deserve to go down, but I don't think we will, we'll squeeze enough wins out to keep our heads above water, it might not be pretty, but it'll do the job required.

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Re: January/February

Post by Boss Hogg » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:26 am

‘What on earth .....’ I’ve watched them on several occasions and watched nearly all of our games.

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Re: January/February

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:30 am

tiger76 wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:05 am
Fulham are winless in 7 games since their victory at Leicester back in November, what on earth makes you think they have too much to go down based on that form, West Brom did well yesterday, but 2 of their goals were penalties, yes we need to improve our goal tally, but let's not make these teams out to be better than they are, they're in the bottom 3 for a reason, and that reason is they don't win enough games, if we can't finish above at least 3 of the bottom 6 then we'll rightly deserve to go down, but I don't think we will, we'll squeeze enough wins out to keep our heads above water, it might not be pretty, but it'll do the job required.
Fulham have had a really tough run of games, but still managed to pick up a few points. They've definetely shown signs that they're improving.

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Re: January/February

Post by Tall Paul » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:30 am

Boss Hogg wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:26 am
‘What on earth .....’ I’ve watched them on several occasions and watched nearly all of our games.
And what exactly have you seen that makes you say they have too much to go down?

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Re: January/February

Post by leelad » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:34 am

One game at a time.

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Re: January/February

Post by tiger76 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:34 am

jrgbfc wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:30 am
Fulham have had a really tough run of games, but still managed to pick up a few points. They've definetely shown signs that they're improving.
Yes I'd agree they are improving, but they'll still be in the mix, 2 wins in 17 games doesn't lie.

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Re: January/February

Post by taio » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:38 am

Boss Hogg wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:54 am
Us and Sheff U look the two worst teams currently.
We're 11th in the form table.
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Re: January/February

Post by Hibsclaret » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:40 am

I don’t understand

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Re: January/February

Post by expoultryboy » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:41 am

Fulham do seem to play some good football , but they're very shaky at the back . From what I've seen , Newcastle are definitely in the mix .

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Re: January/February

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:43 am

Need to look at the teams they won against as well. Wolves are in a dreadful run and I’ve always said their ‘unique’ infrastructure will be their undoing. And I’m not ‘having’ Leeds either - they can’t defend to save their lives and I fully believe they’ll be dragged into it.

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Re: January/February

Post by taio » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:43 am

Anyone very confident Fulham won't go down can go and lump on at the bookies and more than double their money.

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Re: January/February

Post by Spijed » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:46 am

If Zaha gets injured Crystal Palace can easily get dragged into it.

Without him they hardly ever win.

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Re: January/February

Post by beddie » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:51 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:58 am
Just read Big Sam will pocket 10m if he keeps WBA up, don't write them off just yet.
If that's true it's unbelievable.

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Re: January/February

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:07 pm

beddie wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:51 am
If that's true it's unbelievable.
I suppose it's cheaper than panic buying 15m players.

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Re: January/February

Post by tiger76 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:17 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:58 am
I don’t see the point in making predictions like this. I seem to remember everyone doing this last January too and getting it badly wrong.

We got beat yesterday and the next 4 fixtures are tough but the season doesn’t end then. Long way to go.

Yesterday was very disappointing and frustrating but there’s been a huge over-reaction to the defeat.
Over-reaction on here surely not :lol: that would never happen on here would it?

Frustration is the key word, we're not playing that badly in most games, but if you can't score it makes the task of picking up points and wins an awful lot harder.

Despite our lack of goals we're still outside the drop zone by 4 points, and we have games in hand over most of the teams around us, certainly far too early to press the panic button, as many are doing on here. I still think we'll be OK come May, however we will need to add quality in the summer, as the weaknesses in this squad are becoming clearer by the game, lack of creativity, and zero pace, plus mis-firing strikers, that's not a good combination, and unless we address those issues head on it'll be another season or struggle next year. The main thing right now is to ensure we're still a PL club come the summer.

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Re: January/February

Post by box_of_frogs » Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:42 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:38 am
We're 11th in the form table.
And in 6 games time there’s a distinct chance we’ll be near the bottom of the form table.

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