Only 5 PL signings so far

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Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:40 pm

Info supplied by CTs sticky thread.

17 days into the window and only 5 incomings, with only one looking like a first team starter.

Is it simply there's not much dosh about or should it have been in February this year with the late start to the season?

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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by Chester Perry » Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:47 pm

no money - the season behind closed doors has killed a lot of clubs budgets - I said in the summer window many clubs were taking a serious gamble, believing fans would return - our club adjusted it's budget for the worse case scenario - was lambasted for it but would have ended the season debt free, prior to the takeover.

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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:04 pm

Maybe they've seen our tactic of waiting until the very last moment to sign a player and have decided to do the same.

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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by Right_winger » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:32 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:47 pm
no money - the season behind closed doors has killed a lot of clubs budgets - I said in the summer window many clubs were taking a serious gamble, believing fans would return - our club adjusted it's budget for the worse case scenario - was lambasted for it but would have ended the season debt free, prior to the takeover.
Yea but the state of our squad is in absolute tatters. The roof
Is leaking badly in the verge of caving in through lack
Of investment and/or poor management decisions.

We need players in.

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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by Wellsy1882 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:46 pm

Burnley wont sign anybody

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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by Stevie Morgan » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:49 pm

Wellsy1882 wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:46 pm
Burnley wont sign anybody
Poor man's Devil's Advocate
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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by bfcmik » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:02 pm

Stevie Morgan wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:49 pm
Poor man's Devil's Advocate
You could have stopped at 'Poor'

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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:12 pm

According to Nixon, Burnley have gone very quiet on our targets. Probably tactics if nobody else is in for them. Unsettle them and get the price down at the last minute

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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by kentonclaret » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:16 pm

Yeah, that tactic worked great in the Summer window!

Stephens was a steal at £1 million :lol:

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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:18 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:16 pm
Yeah, that tactic worked great in the Summer window!

Stephens was a steal at £1 million :lol:
Dyche was pleased with that deal. Even if the fans weren't.

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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by Wellsy1882 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:06 pm

Stevie Morgan wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:49 pm
Poor man's Devil's Advocate
Its a fact
The wont. Not now the bench ia healthy

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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:08 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:12 pm
According to Nixon, Burnley have gone very quiet on our targets. Probably tactics if nobody else is in for them. Unsettle them and get the price down at the last minute
Or he just hasn’t a clue what’s going on? More likely, I suspect.
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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by Wellsy1882 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:16 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:18 pm
Dyche was pleased with that deal. Even if the fans weren't.
1 hed had his eyes on for years
Wasnt a prem quaity player 5 yrs ago never mind now

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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:18 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:47 pm
no money - the season behind closed doors has killed a lot of clubs budgets - I said in the summer window many clubs were taking a serious gamble, believing fans would return - our club adjusted it's budget for the worse case scenario - was lambasted for it but would have ended the season debt free, prior to the takeover.
Judging by the reported £55m cash in the bank at the time of takeover, it’s fair to assume we’d have ended the season with an exceptionally healthy cash balance?

Shame the existing shareholders decided to sanction a leveraged buy out & seemingly use the clubs cash reserves to part-fund it, instead of hanging around themselves and investing some of it in the ageing squad/stadium. If all the reports are to be believed, that is.

Tbh though, takeover aside, what they did in the summer is risk our PL status, and that is what’s playing out. That to me is a bigger financial gamble, just hope it’s one we get through.

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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:30 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:40 pm
Info supplied by CTs sticky thread.

17 days into the window and only 5 incomings, with only one looking like a first team starter.

Is it simply there's not much dosh about or should it have been in February this year with the late start to the season?
That shocked me when I read it too.

I think the financial reality is biting. Spurs and Arsenal have their BoE loans, so are probably restricted. Others with the big stadia are probably feeling the pinch having not got fans back in October as they budgeted and, let’s face it, all have pretty decent squads to tide them over. In the main, I’d expect they want to trim their squads of the fringe players to save wages.

Judging by SD’s comments, I imagine the Championship are still holding out for ridiculous fees, so for us it becomes a waiting game to see if any buckle.

Hoping we’re also in for some loanee’s but suspect they’ll all have other options and we most likely aren’t the most enticing prospect at the moment.

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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by bobinho » Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:27 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:04 pm
Maybe they've seen our tactic of waiting until the very last moment to sign a player and have decided to do the same.
That’s not a tactic. That’s a consequence of who we are and what we can afford. No agent in his right mind is going to advise his player to join us in week one of the transfer window. They will wait and see if there is any other interest from a club that will pay what the player and agent want. If that comes about, then off to the other club he will go. If it doesn’t come about, then they will wait until the last minute before signing for us with the statement “when Burnley came in for me it was a no brainier”
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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by jojomk1 » Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:58 am

bobinho wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:27 am
That’s not a tactic. That’s a consequence of who we are and what we can afford. No agent in his right mind is going to advise his player to join us in week one of the transfer window. They will wait and see if there is any other interest from a club that will pay what the player and agent want. If that comes about, then off to the other club he will go. If it doesn’t come about, then they will wait until the last minute before signing for us with the statement “when Burnley came in for me it was a no brainier”
Another consequence that potential players will be considering is our current league position

More likely to be loans which could also suit us at this moment in time

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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by Right_winger » Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:00 am

jojomk1 wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:58 am
Another consequence that potential players will be considering is our current league position

More likely to be loans which could also suit us at this moment in time
Who’s ever going to Loan Dyche any player to sit on the bench?

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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by kentonclaret » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:11 am

Perhaps better to wait until BFS has bought half a dozen in for West Brom before commenting on numbers.
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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:19 am

I’ve just looked back at Jan 2020 and the window closed with a total of 49 transfers. I include those recorded by the Premier League so that list shows two for Burnley who were Henry Ogunby & Josh Brownhill.

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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by kentonclaret » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:24 am

Agreed CT that there will not be too many incomings or outgoings, and those that there are will mainly involve clubs needing to try and dig themselves out of a hole and avoid the drop. Most of the bigger clubs will wait until Summer.

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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by NewClaret » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:25 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:19 am
I’ve just looked back at Jan 2020 and the window closed with a total of 49 transfers. I include those recorded by the Premier League so that list shows two for Burnley who were Henry Ogunby & Josh Brownhill.
How’s Henri Ogunby getting on? Looked a really decent capture when he arrived but haven’t heard much since?

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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by randomclaret2 » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:25 am

Whatever happened to Ogunby ?

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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:28 am

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:25 am
How’s Henri Ogunby getting on? Looked a really decent capture when he arrived but haven’t heard much since?
randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:25 am
Whatever happened to Ogunby ?
He came in from Manchester City on a short term contract but was one of the players released at the end of last season.

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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by NewClaret » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:43 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:28 am
He came in from Manchester City on a short term contract but was one of the players released at the end of last season.
That explains it then. Thanks CT.
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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:48 am

The big clubs rarely bring in first team players in January as they're generally cup tied for European competitions.
Plus having massive squads they can plan for a full season.

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Re: Only 5 PL signings so far

Post by ClaretTony » Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:49 am

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:43 am
That explains it then. Thanks CT.
I think I saw him play once and that was as a trialist before he signed, played on the right wing.

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