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Who is this 50s/60s ex-Claret?

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:27 am

I've been sent this pic - I'm not certain although I do have a name in mind but I'm sure someone will know who it is (royboyclaret where are you?)


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Re: Who is this 50s/60s ex-Claret?

Post by Silkyskills1 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:47 am

Is it Brian O'Neil?

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:49 am

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:47 am
Is it Brian O'Neil?
If it is I'll be disgusted with myself for not getting it. He does look a bit like him though.

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Post by green_parrot » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:50 am

Is it Len Kinsella?
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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:52 am

green_parrot wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:50 am
Is it Len Kinsella?
That was the name I had in my head green_parrot

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:03 am

I've just found this team pic - look at the player on the front row, far right.


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Post by maccclaret » Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:12 am

Look at the size of Joe Brown's thighs!

Chris Hoy would envy those.

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Post by Pad1951 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:13 am

I would also say Len Kinsella
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Post by cricketfield73 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:15 am

Yep, I'm with green_parrot on this one, I'd say that's definitely Len Kinsella.
I used to play tennis with Len and one day at Queen's Park back in the 1980s we made up the numbers in a football match on an adjoining pitch where some of my mates were playing. It's only when you see these ex-pros close up that you realise just how unbelievably good they are!

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Post by lakedistrictclaret » Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:16 am

Is that Stan back row fourth left on the team photo?

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:23 am

lakedistrictclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:16 am
Is that Stan back row fourth left on the team photo?
It is Stan back row fourth from the left. I've just come off the phone to him. I sent him the pic at the top of the thread and asked if he knew who it was. He phoned be back and said it was Len Kinsella. Just had a lovely chat with Stan.
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Post by gtclaret » Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:31 am

It could be Les Latchams brother, they look alike

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Post by Stanbill05 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:32 am

There must have been multiple photographers, nobody knows where to look! Good phot

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Post by gawthorpe_view » Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:41 am

Groundsman's house and a shallow Bee Hole End in the background.

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:51 am

Some big important people on that pic away from the players - Joe Brown, Ray Bennion on the left and then George Bray and Billy Dougall on the right.

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Post by Silkyskills1 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:57 am

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:47 am
Is it Brian O'Neil?
Think Brian is on second row down, 5 players in stood next to Freddie Smith. Recall Len Kinsella having a very good game close to the end of the season at home to Stoke. Won 4-0. Mid 60's. Scored two goals,I think. Didn't get much of a look-in if I remember rightly.

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Post by Claret Till I Die » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:05 pm

My dad's just named nearly everybody on the photo and said it was Len Kinsella.

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Post by Herts Clarets » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:08 pm

Hope he didn't struggle with the bloke to the left of Harry Potts. And the bloke next to him looks like he is about to complain about the price of a pint, though I wouldn't tell him to his face :lol:

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Post by Silkyskills1 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:18 pm

Andy Lochhead and Willie Irvine sat together on the picture. Bloody hell, they terrorised some defenders.

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Post by Claret Till I Die » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:23 pm

Herts Clarets wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:08 pm
Hope he didn't struggle with the bloke to the left of Harry Potts. And the bloke next to him looks like he is about to complain about the price of a pint, though I wouldn't tell him to his face :lol:
No problems there... :lol:

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Post by Claret Till I Die » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:24 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:18 pm
Andy Lochhead and Willie Irvine sat together on the picture. Bloody hell, they terrorised some defenders.
Like Wood & Barnes...? ;)
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Post by the_magic_rat » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:42 pm

Dave Merrington was a big lad!
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Post by CaptJohn » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:45 pm

Wow what a blast from the past. Some tough characters in the photo. John Talbut, Dave Merrington, Gordon Harris, Brian Miller and of course Andy Lochhead. It's definitely not Brian O'Neil but could be Les Latchams brother. Not sure about Len Kinsella though.

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Post by CaptJohn » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:47 pm

Who is it sat to the right of John Talbut?

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Post by the_magic_rat » Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:48 pm

CaptJohn wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:47 pm
Who is it sat to the right of John Talbut?
Is it Johnny Price?

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Post by scouseclaret » Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:00 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:41 am
Groundsman's house and a shallow Bee Hole End in the background.
When was the Bee Hole extended? I thought it was earlier than the 1960's?

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Post by lakedistrictclaret » Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:04 pm

I think the extended Bee Hole was ready for the beginning of the 70-71 season.

Who is the lad sitting on the ground on the left, next to Les Latcham?

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:27 pm

CaptJohn wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:45 pm
It's definitely not Brian O'Neil but could be Les Latchams brother. Not sure about Len Kinsella though.
It is Len Kinsella, confirmed by Stan as per post further up.

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:28 pm

lakedistrictclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:04 pm
Who is the lad sitting on the ground on the left, next to Les Latcham?
That's one I don't know.

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Post by Vino blanco » Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:40 pm

Also, who is the guy to John Talbut's right?

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:41 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:40 pm
Also, who is the guy to John Talbut's right?
Johnny Price
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Post by Vino blanco » Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:42 pm

Thought it was, but wasn't sure.

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Post by ChrisG » Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:56 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:28 pm
That's one I don't know.
It's not Glyn Thomas is it?

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Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:42 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 11:03 am
I've just found this team pic
Thanks for that. One I didn’t have. Now added to collection.

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Post by onmeheadson » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:52 pm

Yes Len Kinsella.

Worked with Len for a few years at John Kays Builders merchants on Manchester Road.
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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:53 pm

onmeheadson wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:52 pm
Yes Len Kinsella.

Worked with Len for a few years at John Kays Builders merchants on Manchester Road.
I've just been talking to CTID who knows him. I'd no idea he was still living locally.

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Post by onmeheadson » Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:57 pm

Last time I saw him was a couple of years ago at the Sparrow Hawk Fence.

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Post by FCBurnley » Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:33 pm

Who is to the right of Sammy Todd

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Post by sandy richardson » Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:12 pm

What looks odd is that some players are in round-neck shirts and some in V-necks.

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Post by jtv » Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:59 pm

Anyone kind enough to name them all please?

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:10 pm

jtv wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:59 pm
Anyone kind enough to name them all please?
On the back row, I don't know the first three or the last one (from the left). The others are Stan Ternent, Mick Buxton, David Walker, Adam Blacklaw, Jimmy Robson, Sammy Todd.

Next to back row: Joe Brown, Ray Bennion, don't know, Dave Merrington, don't know, Ray Ternent, Brian O'Neil, Fred Smith, Harry Thomson, Arthur Bellamy, Alex Elder, Jimmy Adamson, George Bray, Billy Dougall.

Seated row: Johnny Price, John Talbut, Brian Miller, Andy Lochhead, Willie Irvine, Harry Potts, Gordon Harris, Willie Morgan, Ian Towers, Ray Pointer, John Angus.

At front: don't know, Les Latcham, Ralph Coates, don't know, Len Kinsella.

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Post by northeastclaret » Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:35 pm

What an amazing squad of players I doubt that there has ever been so much talent in one squad.
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Post by claret1977 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:52 pm

There are some great photos on this site that I haven't seen on others such as Getty:
https://www.shutterstock.com/editorial/ ... 1969-01-20
The link should be date range from 1945-1969 but there are plenty more from other eras.
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Post by claretfern » Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:55 pm

I would guess this photo call is for the 1964/65 season (?) Jimmy Adamson's last as a player.....
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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:05 pm

claretfern wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:55 pm
It would guess this photo call is for the 1964/65 season (?) Jimmy Adamson's last as a player.....
I think you are correct. It can't be any later - we switched to white socks in 1965/66 but both Johnny Price and David Walker are on the photograph and both left us at the end of the 1964/65 season.

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Post by Silkyskills1 » Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:31 pm

A lot of north east accents in that picture, too.

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Post by jtv » Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:05 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:10 pm
On the back row, I don't know the first three or the last one (from the left). The others are Stan Ternent, Mick Buxton, David Walker, Adam Blacklaw, Jimmy Robson, Sammy Todd.

Next to back row: Joe Brown, Ray Bennion, don't know, Dave Merrington, don't know, Ray Ternent, Brian O'Neil, Fred Smith, Harry Thomson, Arthur Bellamy, Alex Elder, Jimmy Adamson, George Bray, Billy Dougall.

Seated row: Johnny Price, John Talbut, Brian Miller, Andy Lochhead, Willie Irvine, Harry Potts, Gordon Harris, Willie Morgan, Ian Towers, Ray Pointer, John Angus.

At front: don't know, Les Latcham, Ralph Coates, don't know, Len Kinsella.
Thanks CT

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Post by FCBurnley » Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:25 pm

Could one of the missing names be John Murray He signed in March 65. Would have been approx 17

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Post by FCBurnley » Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:35 pm

Colin Blant signed Aug 64 ? Could be another. Right of Coates ?

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Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:32 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:35 pm
Colin Blant signed Aug 64 ? Could be another. Right of Coates ?
Les Latcham sat to Ralph’s right. Colin Blant not on there. He’d be immediately identifiable by his size.

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