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Nick Pope, Ben Mee, James Tarkowski

Post by jedi_master » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:01 pm

Firstly not taking anything away from our full backs who were also outstanding to a man, but, I think what we have all thought for a while needs saying once more.

The best unit of goalkeeper and two centre backs in the entire Premier League.
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Post by Billyblah » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:04 pm

Yup, Nick Pope MOM
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Post by burnleymik » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:05 pm

Best back 3 in the league and Taylor is excellent too. Lowton also been far better recently.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:18 pm

Lowton was mom for me, marked Roberston out of the game for most parts, for me that was his best performance for us
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Post by Bigvince » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:19 pm

We’ve got the best defensive unit in the premier league!

IMO

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Post by Burnleyareback2 » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:20 pm

Absolutely gutted we lost Taylor again tonight. He makes such a difference in getting balls to the front 2.

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Post by summitclaret » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:20 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:18 pm
Lowton was mom for me, marked Roberston out of the game for most parts, for me that was his best performance fir us
He did the same at OT last season.

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Post by Stayingup » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:27 pm

The holy Trinity

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Post by Top Claret » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:33 pm

Lowton was excellent tonight and this season he has improved immensely.

Ben Mee got lucky tonight he made 2 mistakes that could have cost us the game

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Post by Vino blanco » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:34 pm

Southgate doesn't rate them highly.

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Post by Selby Claret » Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:56 pm

summitclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:20 pm
He did the same at OT last season.
Made all the more impressive with the fact that Robertson wasn’t even there ;)

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Post by Stayingup » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:28 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:34 pm
Southgate doesn't rate them highly.
I don't rate him. Do you?

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Post by chipbutty » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:50 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:33 pm
Lowton was excellent tonight and this season he has improved immensely.

Ben Mee got lucky tonight he made 2 mistakes that could have cost us the game
Yes ben mee made one glaring mistake to let Origo through for a freebie, but can you even begin to compare that to how many blocks he makes and goals he stops?

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Post by tarkys_ears » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:54 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:01 pm
Firstly not taking anything away from our full backs who were also outstanding to a man, but, I think what we have all thought for a while needs saying once more.

The best unit of goalkeeper and two centre backs in the entire Premier League.
Tell us something we don't know!!!

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Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:59 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:18 pm
Lowton was mom for me, marked Roberston out of the game for most parts, for me that was his best performance for us
Agreed. Robertson and Sane on his side and can’t remember him getting skinned until about the 88th minute.

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Post by Top Claret » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:50 am

chipbutty wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:50 pm
Yes ben mee made one glaring mistake to let Origo through for a freebie, but can you even begin to compare that to how many blocks he makes and goals he stops?
I scored Ben a 5 in the 1st half, but he turned it around in the 2nd and I gave him a 7.

He made a mistake earlier on with a short pass and then followed it up by the main bloomer, thus scored him a 5.

Liverpool just kept lobbing the ball down Tarkowski and Mee throat and made it easy for them to be fair but still a great display especially from Lowton who was outstanding as was Pieters when he came on.

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:02 am

Top Claret wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:50 am
I scored Ben a 5 in the 1st half, but he turned it around in the 2nd and I gave him a 7.

He made a mistake earlier on with a short pass and then followed it up by the main bloomer, thus scored him a 5.

Liverpool just kept lobbing the ball down Tarkowski and Mee throat and made it easy for them to be fair but still a great display especially from Lowton who was outstanding as was Pieters when he came on.
Do you keep a running tally for your player ratings? Sounds like a distraction from watching the game.

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Post by Stayingup » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:19 am

Chris Bascombe a Liverpool fan and Telegraph journalist says 'If there is a better English goalkeeper than Pope who is it? Everything he does he does it with ease. Obviously not a Pickford fan then.

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Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:51 am

I’d be worried that Koop, once he’s calmed down, might relook at that display by Tarks and be trying to look at him as a third option to replace Matip.

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Post by Masham Ale » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:00 am

I also think Lowton has been excellent. He's also a real threat running at 'em which he's done quite a few times recent matches.

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Post by Socrates » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:19 am

They are excellent.

They are about as good as we can expect for our club.

I legitimately think Pope is in the top 10 keepers in the world.

But best in the league? Steady on lads.
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Post by jedi_master » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:28 am

Socrates, it's a big statement I grant you, but I have looked at every teams keeper and two centre back combinations (if we take Liverpool as of current, not with Van Dijk and Gomez) and I genuinely wouldn't trade what we have.

There are better players than Ben Mee, but I am talking about the overall cohesion of that unit. I think it genuinely is the best.

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Post by gtclaret » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:50 pm

Vino blanco wrote:
Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:34 pm
Southgate doesn't rate them highly.
Southgate is wrong, as a unit they are England's best option, just be tried in a friendly etc. With 2 higher grade full backs and a holding MF, it would form a solid base for the exciting forwards at his disposal

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Post by Belgianclaret » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:11 pm

I also had Lowton high up there, I though he was equally outstanding as our keeper and central defenders yesterday

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Post by BurnleyFC » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:18 pm

Socrates wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:19 am
They are excellent.

They are about as good as we can expect for our club.

I legitimately think Pope is in the top 10 keepers in the world.

But best in the league? Steady on lads.
I’m genuinely struggling to think of 9 other goalkeepers that are on Nick Pope’s level, he’s that good.

Top 5 in the world for me and it’s an absolute disgrace that he isn’t England’s first choice shot stopper.

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Post by Socrates » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:22 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:28 am
Socrates, it's a big statement I grant you, but I have looked at every teams keeper and two centre back combinations (if we take Liverpool as of current, not with Van Dijk and Gomez) and I genuinely wouldn't trade what we have.

There are better players than Ben Mee, but I am talking about the overall cohesion of that unit. I think it genuinely is the best.
For 45 minutes they struggled with the movement of Patrick Bamford and got pulled all over the place by Antonio and Bowen last week.

I’d have Ederson, Dias and Stones currently ahead of them. And that might not even be City’s best 3.

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Post by what_no_pies » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:11 pm

Nick Pope was the only keeper on the PL POTY shortlist of 5 for last season and his save stats have him top of the tree this season. That's enough consistency to say with some conviction he's the best in the league. So how come he's not better than Pickford again Gareth?

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Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:35 am

Belgianclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:11 pm
I also had Lowton high up there, I though he was equally outstanding as our keeper and central defenders yesterday
Seems to be making a real effort (or has been told) to get further up the pitch too.

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