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Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Hopey » Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:58 am

Our groundsmans hut was broken into in the early hours of the morning with a number of items stolen. Can anyone with CCTV or saw anything please contact on social or DM me.

Items taken: Green John Deere Mower and a Red Rotary Mower plus many more. 3 males seen.

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by MACCA » Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:34 am

:( Bloody peasants!

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Burnley Ace » Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:03 am

Burglary not robbery.
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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:13 am

Absolute scumbags.

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Bigvince » Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:19 am

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:13 am
Absolute scumbags.
I know they are, but they don’t deserve burgling :D
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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:26 am

Pathetic isn’t it, I’d imagine they will be hard to sell locally.

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:30 am

Burnley Ace wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:03 am
Burglary not robbery.
Thank you Suzie Dent. Let’s hope the real police are as on the ball as the pedant police.
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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by MT03ALG » Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:43 am

The scumbags will break into anywhere and steal anything. We have the same problem at Colne C.C. but have updated/modernised our security

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:48 am

MT03ALG wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:43 am
The scumbags will break into anywhere and steal anything. We have the same problem at Colne C.C. but have updated/modernised our security
They will, let’s hope the stuff is too hot to handle now as the social media coverage has gone far and wide.

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by bobinho » Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:49 am

Bigvince wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:19 am
I know they are, but they don’t deserve burgling :D
Logged in just to like that.... howling here. :lol:
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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Wellsy1882 » Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:22 pm

They wont be in burnley anyway them mowers...

Are they the sit on 1s too?

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:30 pm

All sports clubs are targets from these lowlifes.

At Padiham we had to put a big gate up to stop any vehicle access to the garages.

Good luck getting them back.
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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Burnley Ace » Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:48 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:30 am
Thank you Suzie Dent. Let’s hope the real police are as on the ball as the pedant police.
The title says robbery which means violence was used against someone not that a mower was stolen. It’s not pedantry it’s just using the right words!!
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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Foulthrow » Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:43 pm

Clitheroe won’t have this problem because their groundsman’s shed is packed with employees.
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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by pushpinpussy » Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:52 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:48 pm
The title says robbery which means violence was used against someone not that a mower was stolen. It’s not pedantry it’s just using the right words!!
You are wrong im afraid. violence doesn't actually have to be used at all for a robbery. They only have to put a person in fear of them being subjected to some force. this sounds like a burglary of a non dwelling. ill be honest. I work in this field. the police wont do anything unless there is some conclusive CCTV or forensics. ring your insurance im afraid to say.

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by ClaretFelix » Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:55 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:52 pm
You are wrong im afraid. violence doesn't actually have to be used at all for a robbery. They only have to put a person in fear of them being subjected to some force. this sounds like a burglary of a non dwelling. ill be honest. I work in this field. the police wont do anything unless there is some conclusive CCTV or forensics. ring your insurance im afraid to say.
There are very strong lines of enquiry

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Rowls » Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:58 pm

Hope they're retreived and the culprits charged.

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by pushpinpussy » Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:59 pm

ive defended hundred of burglary jobs over the years. Very hard to prove unless they are linked forensically. Even if they are caught with the goods red handed the Crown can only prove handling stolen goods. The police will have an idea who is carrying out these crimes but knowing and proving are 2 different things. Good luck however.

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:09 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:59 pm
ive defended hundred of burglary jobs over the years. Very hard to prove unless they are linked forensically. Even if they are caught with the goods red handed the Crown can only prove handling stolen goods. The police will have an idea who is carrying out these crimes but knowing and proving are 2 different things. Good luck however.
Wow! Just Wow!...are you a solicitor?
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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:18 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:59 pm
ive defended hundred of burglary jobs over the years. Very hard to prove unless they are linked forensically. Even if they are caught with the goods red handed the Crown can only prove handling stolen goods. The police will have an idea who is carrying out these crimes but knowing and proving are 2 different things. Good luck however.
There was a crow bar left at the scene and some
CCTV has the suspects discussing the fact they have left the crow bar behind. Let’s hope that’s enough.
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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:15 pm

Inchy wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:07 pm
Sc*m, sub human sc^m
But not robbers.

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Hopey » Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:20 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:03 am
Burglary not robbery.
Bet you are fun at parties.
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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:22 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:52 pm
You are wrong im afraid. violence doesn't actually have to be used at all for a robbery. They only have to put a person in fear of them being subjected to some force. this sounds like a burglary of a non dwelling. ill be honest. I work in this field. the police wont do anything unless there is some conclusive CCTV or forensics. ring your insurance im afraid to say.
The police don’t even turn up if you ring them they’ll give you a crime reference number & that’s it, no money in it, try reporting there’s a old fella who’s doing slightly over the recommended speed limit & they’ll be all over it like a rash.

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Grumps » Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:34 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:22 pm
The police don’t even turn up if you ring them they’ll give you a crime reference number & that’s it, no money in it, try reporting there’s a old fella who’s doing slightly over the recommended speed limit & they’ll be all over it like a rash.
Utter tosh....

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Marney&Mee » Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:41 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:09 pm
Wow! Just Wow!...are you a solicitor?
Lives next door to one

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:42 pm

Grumps wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:34 pm
Utter tosh....
I’ve contacted them in a similar situation, they don’t care the basic minimum requirement is to tick a box, you get the crime prevention advice & reference number, you would have to really insist upon them coming out, it’s too much work for them there’s almost zero chance of the items being recovered, sat in a nice warm van drinking a brew & ka-ching is modern day policing, the Dixon of dock green old style coppering belongs to a bygone era unfortunately due to immense cuts.

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Grumps » Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:55 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:42 pm
I’ve contacted them in a similar situation, they don’t care the basic minimum requirement is to tick a box, you get the crime prevention advice & reference number, you would have to really insist upon them coming out, it’s too much work for them there’s almost zero chance of the items being recovered, sat in a nice warm van drinking a brew & ka-ching is modern day policing, the Dixon of dock green old style coppering belongs to a bygone era unfortunately due to immense cuts.
If there's evidence to be gathered they will turn out, nothing to do with raking in cash as you suggested
The speeding example is laughable... Try reporting your 80yr old neighbour for speeding and see what happens.
I fully agree policing isn't as good as it used to be, but the argument is better if backed up by facts, not just made up rubbish.

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:08 pm

To be fair to the police there is a much wider range of crime these days and giving a young scamp a whack to keep them in line is long gone. Not as straight forward as them not being bothered which is often the insinuation.

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Burnley Ace » Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:14 pm

pushpinpussy wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:52 pm
You are wrong im afraid. violence doesn't actually have to be used at all for a robbery. They only have to put a person in fear of them being subjected to some force. this sounds like a burglary of a non dwelling. ill be honest. I work in this field. the police wont do anything unless there is some conclusive CCTV or forensics. ring your insurance im afraid to say.
So you agree it’s not a robbery and the wrong word was used?

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Grumps » Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:15 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:14 pm
So you agree it’s not a robbery and the wrong word was used?
100% wasn't a robbery

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:31 pm

Surely robbery or burglary doesn’t matter, there isn’t much of a distinct difference away from the overriding point, basically items are getting stolen which don’t belong to other people, you are splitting hairs over the methods deployed.
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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Wellsy1882 » Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:59 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 4:09 pm
Wow! Just Wow!...are you a solicitor?
He works on the doors at crown court

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Grumps » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:04 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:31 pm
Surely robbery or burglary doesn’t matter, there isn’t much of a distinct difference away from the overriding point, basically items are getting stolen which don’t belong to other people, you are splitting hairs over the methods deployed.
Are you saying there isn't much difference between someone breaking into an unoccupied shed, and someone being tied up and held at gunpoint? Ones burglary, the other is robbery
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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:09 pm

Wellsy1882 wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:59 pm
He works on the doors at crown court
Were ever does he get the time? hes always in Marbella.

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Wellsy1882 » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:11 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:09 pm
Were ever does he get the time? hes always in Marbella.
Hes never seen marbella
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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:14 pm

Wellsy1882 wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:11 pm
Hes never seen marbella
Are you sure :lol:

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:25 pm

Grumps wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:04 pm
Are you saying there isn't much difference between someone breaking into an unoccupied shed, and someone being tied up and held at gunpoint? Ones burglary, the other is robbery
FFS god struth :roll: when anybody gets burgled or robbed or scammed in any kind of way resulting in a personal loss, does the fact still remain that whatever methods are being used to extract belongings which don’t belong to the criminal the end result is still the same, if you become a victim losing £500 through embezzlement or robbery with a blade held to your jugular the fact still remains you have lost £500 it doesn’t matter if you’ve been forced to bend over & take it up the b*m, theft is theft.

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by RingoMcCartney » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:29 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:14 pm
So you agree it’s not a robbery and the wrong word was used?
Give it a rest eh!? Doubt the folk down Lowerhouse give a toss about someone arguing the toss about whether or not its "robbery" or "burglary" on a messageboard . After the year we've just had, and the resulting financial black hole they're probably looking at, with no clear end in sight. They'll probably more concerned about how they're gonna find the funds to replace thousands of pounds worth of vital equipment.

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Grumps » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:29 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:25 pm
FFS god struth :roll: when anybody gets burgled or robbed or scammed in any kind of way resulting in a personal loss, does the fact still remain that whatever methods are being used to extract belongings which don’t belong to the criminal the end result is still the same, if you become a victim losing £500 through embezzlement or robbery with a blade held to your jugular the fact still remains you have lost £500 it doesn’t matter if you’ve been forced to bend over & take it up the b*m, theft is theft.
Ask the victims, I think you'll find they'd think completely different to you and that it does matter how the money is stolen.

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Grumps » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:31 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:29 pm
Give it a rest eh!? Doubt the folk down Lowerhouse give a toss about someone arguing the toss about whether or not its "robbery" or "burglary" on a messageboard . After the year we've just had, and the resulting financial black hole they're probably looking at, with no clear end in sight. They'll probably more concerned about how they're gonna find the funds to replace thousands of pounds worth of vital equipment.
I don't think they'll give a toss what's being said on a message board

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:31 pm

Grumps wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:29 pm
Ask the victims, I think you'll find they'd think completely different to you and that it does matter how the money is stolen.
Well however there feel that eg £500 will not magically reappear, trust me on that, when it’s gone it’s gone £500 - £500 equals nothing.

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Burnley Ace » Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:31 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:29 pm
Give it a rest eh!? Doubt the folk down Lowerhouse give a toss about someone arguing the toss about whether or not its "robbery" or "burglary" on a messageboard . After the year we've just had, and the resulting financial black hole they're probably looking at, with no clear end in sight. They'll probably more concerned about how they're gonna find the funds to replace thousands of pounds worth of vital equipment.
There’s no argument, I’m right. Not like you to ignore facts is it? It’s even in the dictionary.

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Burnley Ace » Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:33 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:25 pm
FFS god struth :roll: when anybody gets burgled or robbed or scammed in any kind of way resulting in a personal loss, does the fact still remain that whatever methods are being used to extract belongings which don’t belong to the criminal the end result is still the same, if you become a victim losing £500 through embezzlement or robbery with a blade held to your jugular the fact still remains you have lost £500 it doesn’t matter if you’ve been forced to bend over & take it up the b*m, theft is theft.
Is it so difficult for you to use the correct language?

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:35 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:31 pm
There’s no argument, I’m right. Not like you to ignore facts is it? It’s even in the dictionary.
Defund the Oxford Dictionary :D

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:41 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:33 pm
Is it so difficult for you to use the correct language?
Yep, I’m not the fruit & nut cake arguing the toss over robbery & burglary, at the end of the day the place got done over, it doesn’t matter if a massive b*mming session facilitated that action, items were stolen & it’s wrong, theft is theft.
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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Burnley Ace » Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:02 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:41 pm
Yep, I’m not the fruit & nut cake arguing the toss over robbery & burglary, at the end of the day the place got done over, it doesn’t matter if a massive b*mming session facilitated that action, items were stolen & it’s wrong, theft is theft.
I’m not arguing the toss as there’s no argument, it was a burglary not a robbery.

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:07 pm

I heard it was larceny.

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:11 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:02 pm
I’m not arguing the toss as there’s no argument, it was a burglary not a robbery.
Does it really matter? I’m not disputing that if you look at my posts I never have, by whatever means items have been stolen unlikely to be recovered that’s the important part, if you or anybody unfortunately fall victim to theft there’s no consolation over the manner of how the theft took place, there’s no gold for embezzlement or silver for robbery or bronze for burglary, it’s not a contest, loss is loss.

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by Burnley Ace » Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:27 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:11 pm
Does it really matter? I’m not disputing that if you look at my posts I never have, by whatever means items have been stolen unlikely to be recovered that’s the important part, if you or anybody unfortunately fall victim to theft there’s no consolation over the manner of how the theft took place, there’s no gold for embezzlement or silver for robbery or bronze for burglary, it’s not a contest, loss is loss.
I would rather my pocket was picked than someone break into my house at night, torture me and then empty my safe. That’s why there are different words and different levels of punishment.

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Re: Lowerhouse CC robbery

Post by RingoMcCartney » Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:36 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Sat Jan 23, 2021 9:31 pm
There’s no argument, I’m right. Not like you to ignore facts is it? It’s even in the dictionary.
Bore off you attention craving clown.

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