How much sleep do you get?

[FactualFrank]

It might not have anything to do with it but it's a sign you could have it.
The most common diagnosis is probably through it alongside your eyes.

It has no correlation. You can drink a shed load of water and be pi$$ing for England - it's not a sign.

[jrgbfc]

Since going back on furlough my sleep has been all over the place, just like it was back in April. Having really vivid dreams and waking up all night. Need 6 or 7 hours to function properly.

[Vegas Claret]

I would like to have a really good nights sleep but find myself waking in the middle of the night or early in the morning (6ish). It’s really annoying when you don’t have a need to get up and feel more sleep would be beneficial.

Any suggestions?

I'm usually lucky to get 4 hours, i've started having a gob full of whiskey over the last few months about 30 mins before bed and I'm getting about 7 hrs every night.

[Jakubclaret]

Probably about 3hrs a night & at weekends about 6hrs, I’ve conditioned my mind not to accept any more or any less, when the experts claim you need at least 8hrs on average it’s a load of ********, how do you think long distance HGV drivers get by they aren’t all slugging red bull & dropping pro plus, if you condition your mind correctly it will accept whatever you allow it & become accustomed to it.

[TheFamilyCat]

Probably about 3hrs a night & at weekends about 6hrs, I’ve conditioned my mind not to accept any more or any less, when the experts claim you need at least 8hrs on average it’s a load of ********, how do you think long distance HGV drivers get by they aren’t all slugging red bull & dropping pro plus, if you condition your mind correctly it will accept whatever you allow it & become accustomed to it.

Evidence, should you ever need it that the experts are right.

[Quickenthetempo]

It has no correlation. You can drink a shed load of water and be pi$$ing for England - it's not a sign.

And there's me thinking it was how I got diagnosed with type one diabetes.

I must have made a mistake.

It's not water though, your body isn't desperate to get rid of that. It's sugary drinks that would make you go more than once in the night.

[Jakubclaret]

Evidence, should you ever need it that the experts are right.

They are exceptions to that whenever I come to conversations with you I feel myself drifting off more than usual, the experts don’t make allowances for any circumstances it’s all guidelines.

[diamondpocket]

It has no correlation. You can drink a shed load of water and be pi$$ing for England - it's not a sign.

OH DEAR! FF now saying that going to the toilet frequently is not a sign of a potential Diabetes problem and has no correlation.
People diagnosed with Diabetes (TYPE 1) will have a blood sugar astronomically high than what it should be at the time of diagnosis. One of the effects of such a high blood sugar level is DRINKING LOTS & LOTS & LOTS of fluids, which obviously in turn makes you go to the toilet.
If someone on a messageboard says that they go to the toilet every hour through the night then I think it is reasonable to say that it might be worth seeing a doctor, seeing as that original poster didn't give any details about current state of health, etc.

Stop arguing for argument's sake.

[diamondpocket]

And there's me thinking it was how I got diagnosed with type one diabetes.

I must have made a mistake.

It's not water though, your body isn't desperate to get rid of that. It's sugary drinks that would make you go more than once in the night.

Same here. And getting belted by my Dad all the time coz I was going to the toilet and couldnt get why, like I was some kind of disabled.
Don't get into spats with the Factual one, he'll be nit-picking every post onwards, like a sore rash!

[beddie]

For those who get up in the night to pee and assuming you go to bed around 11:00 p.m, try not to drink anything after 7:30 p.m. and see if it makes a difference, if it does you can then gauge it accordingly.

[boatshed bill]

6 hours at most.

[Volvoclaret]

I used to get about 4 or 5 hours per night, if I was lucky, but since I have had my CPAP machine I get on average 8 hours per night quite often more than that, a real life saver.

Agreed. CPAP machine saved my life after being diagnosed with sleep apnea.

[WadingInDeeper]

Five, give or take 1/2 hour. My dad was the same.

[TsarBomba]

Always been a light sleeper, used to be 4 or 5 hours a night but better since becoming a dad, averaging 6 or 7. Very rarely have 8 or more.

Roughly the same for me too, and for the same reasons.

Not doing nights for the first time in 14 years has really improved my sleep pattern, and I feel so much better for it.

[CaptJohn]

Had real problems with sleeping last March when the lockdown first struck. Bought a FitBit to monitor my sleep patterns and strangely enough it really helped me to see what was going on each night with the app monitoring deep, light, REM and awake. I'm back into my normal sleep now and get at least 7 hours each night.

[Quickenthetempo]

I struggle to get to sleep, my sleeping patterns are all over the place and no matter what I do I don't seem to be able to sort it out.

If your struggling to get to sleep, try the lavender spray on your pillow.
Get it from boots or similar.

Be out like a light.

[Burnleyareback2]

I can sleep almost anywhere, taxi’s, planes through take off, trains, seats, during the liverpool game this afternoon anywhere apart from hotels for work..

For around 20 years I have spent 2 or 3 night a week on average in hotels and I just don’t get a solid sleep.

Tried Lavender spray, drinking, not drinking, gym before bed, small meal, big meal, sleeping tablets, everything.

[Devils_Advocate]

I cant remember the last time I managed to stay up later than 10pm

[bfcmik]

I can feel tired at 6pm, 8pm and 10pm but by midnight I am wide awake. Rarely to I go to bed before 3am even if I had just 4 or 5 hours the previous night.

As Jakubclaret said earlier, long distance drivers, and I used to drive Sprinters into the EU with 1000+ miles a day not unusual, learn how to manage on 'refresher' naps of either 20-30 minutes or a couple of hours with a decent 8 hour sleep every 2 or 3 days getting rid of any tiredness.

[duncandisorderly]

I've no problem being asleep, it's just getting there sans alcohol. My eyes are tired and my body is tired but it's my mind I can't shut down.
I've recently put F.lux on my computer at home to see if that helps with the blue light issues, never have the big light on in the house after tea time, no caffeine after 4pm.

I've tried CBD oil which didn't seem to work, Valerian root tea which sometimes seemed to work, and am currently trying Chamomile and Honey tea an hour before bed.

Exercise, even if only a walk to the shop, in the daylight and outside helps massively. Don't just stay inside with all your artificial lighting and no fresh air.

[ClaretTony]

If your struggling to get to sleep, try the lavender spray on your pillow.
Get it from boots or similar.

Be out like a light.

There are people who can switch off the bedroom light and be asleep before the room goes dark. I've never been like that, can often struggle to get to sleep. My problem at the moment is as much sleeping patterns brought on by the current situation. I'm sleeping at the wrong times as well. This morning I was out of bed around half an hour ago (at 9:40) but some mornings it can get much, much later when normally it's never really been much past 8 o'clock.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Tend to sleep 7 - 8 hours most nights.

In bed between 10 and 11 during the week, later Friday & Saturday but up every day at 6am for a walk with the dogs. Never seem to struggle to drop off but I think it helps hardly ever using the internet at night or weekends (apart from betting) rather than being on it until silly hours of the day for things that will still be there the next time you use it.

[Jakubclaret]

I can feel tired at 6pm, 8pm and 10pm but by midnight I am wide awake. Rarely to I go to bed before 3am even if I had just 4 or 5 hours the previous night.

As Jakubclaret said earlier, long distance drivers, and I used to drive Sprinters into the EU with 1000+ miles a day not unusual, learn how to manage on 'refresher' naps of either 20-30 minutes or a couple of hours with a decent 8 hour sleep every 2 or 3 days getting rid of any tiredness.

Exactly, it’s amazing how resilient the human body & mind can be, as long as you condition yourself so it’s habitual, people working long hours it’s not optional sleep deprivation is forced, the way I see it is you can have 1 hell of a sleep when you are dead, life isn’t for sleeping all the time.

[Steve1956]

Another rotator cuff here, having the same physio videos every 3 weeks. Think its improving slightly with the exercises

Still managing 6.5 - 7.5 hrs, started using a free sleep app, its not 100% reliable but pretty accurate, app is

"Sleepscore"

How far are you into your injury buddy...ive been doing exercises the physio give me and ive noticed a very slight improvement in 10 weeks....somedays i think ive mastered it then its three steps backwards....very slow progress

[Bosscat]

How far are you into your injury buddy...ive been doing exercises the physio give me and ive noticed a very slight improvement in 10 weeks....somedays i think ive mastered it then its three steps backwards....very slow progress

My Brother did his shoulder falling off his bike and it was nearly 12 months of exercises from his physio Steve, that was 20 years ago (he was in his early 50's) stick with it m8

[Steve1956]

My Brother did his shoulder falling off his bike and it was nearly 12 months of exercises from his physio Steve, that was 20 years ago (he was in his early 50's) stick with it m8

The Physio and the Doctor told me it was a difficult injury to recover from,its a pretty unique joint the shoulder ....difficult as you get older as well..
Cheers for the good wishes BC .

[Bosscat]

The Physio and the Doctor told me it was a difficult injury to recover from,its a pretty unique joint the shoulder ....difficult as you get older as well...

I know he still gets twinges and aches 20 yrs on

[Paul Waine]

Simply not enough,I have done my Rotator cuff and a good night sleep is impossible at the moment got it diagnosed over the phone because I couldn't see a doc...now having physio consultations over the phone...2 co codamol at 11.00 pm...wake up at about 1.30 in pain,get up and make a hot water bottle up to place against the shoulder,restless for the rest of the night...get up about 7.30 and take the dogs for a spin....tough times but it has improved recently the wife has even threatened me with single beds because I'm tossing and turning

Bring it on....great thread by the way.

Hi Steve, I've had rotator cuff issue since September. Started video physio sessions in early Oct. I did my 5th session today. I was getting 10 out of 10 pain early on. I'm now down to 5/10 at worst, much less frequently and mostly lasting seconds only. Based on the improvement and deciding I was 60% better my physio has discharged me. Now just down to me to continue with the resistance band strengthening and a couple of stretching exercises.

Of course, I'm now sleeping better - when my "older male" bladder allows.

Good luck with the physio.

[Paul Waine]

For those who get up in the night to pee and assuming you go to bed around 11:00 p.m, try not to drink anything after 7:30 p.m. and see if it makes a difference, if it does you can then gauge it accordingly.

Hi beddie, how does that fit in with the doctors recommending to drink 3 litres of water a day - and meds to take before retiring for the evening?

[Top Claret]

Did my rota cuff in 15 years ago and have turned surgery down twice. Unless you play a racket sport or cricket I would not bother having surgery.

Best cure is ibrofurium until pain goes and then lifting light weights to build up the muscles around the area, this works for me.
If I don't do any weights for over 4 weeks the pain starts returning and if I do to many it does, so I have to manage it properly.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I got 8hrs sleep last night and feel worse off for it...

[Steve1956]

Hi Steve, I've had rotator cuff issue since September. Started video physio sessions in early Oct. I did my 5th session today. I was getting 10 out of 10 pain early on. I'm now down to 5/10 at worst, much less frequently and mostly lasting seconds only. Based on the improvement and deciding I was 60% better my physio has discharged me. Now just down to me to continue with the resistance band strengthening and a couple of stretching exercises.

Of course, I'm now sleeping better - when my "older male" bladder allows.

Good luck with the physio.

The Physio is working Paul...just slowly,and I'm impatient.....we will get there I just dont realise I'm getting older and aches/ pains are going to be with me more and more as I get older .....I never realised old age was so tough,I retired from an active job at 62 and now 3 years later after being less active I cant believe how my body has changed.
Good luck Paul...fancy a game of tennis sometime ?

[ClaretTony]

I never realised old age was so tough,I retired from an active job at 62 and now 3 years later after being less active I cant believe how my body has changed.

Struggling with my neck (arthritis) and my shoulder (frozen) at the moment but I've just put some washing in, was down on my knees and then struggled to get up. I've just had to crawl through to the stairs to help me get up.

[Steve1956]

Struggling with my neck (arthritis) and my shoulder (frozen) at the moment but I've just put some washing in, was down on my knees and then struggled to get up. I've just had to crawl through to the stairs to help me get up.

Lifes tough ....I ache in places I never knew existed.....I was starting to think is it only me suffering with all these aches and pains....then you mention an ailment on here ....and we all have it
Ain't getting old brilliant?

[diamondpocket]

whatever your age, life's all about sharing!

[Gerry Hattrick]

Lifes tough ....I ache in places I never knew existed.....I was starting to think is it only me suffering with all these aches and pains....then you mention an ailment on here ....and we all have it
Ain't getting old brilliant?

There ain't much going for the alternative.

[Paul Waine]

The Physio is working Paul...just slowly,and I'm impatient.....we will get there I just dont realise I'm getting older and aches/ pains are going to be with me more and more as I get older .....I never realised old age was so tough,I retired from an active job at 62 and now 3 years later after being less active I cant believe how my body has changed.
Good luck Paul...fancy a game of tennis sometime ?

Tennis, can I serve under arm?

I was planning to start walking football when lockdown 1 ended. Still in my plans if it's still going when we've all got vaccinated.