Vydra (again)

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Vydra (again)

Post by DomBFC1882 » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:02 pm

Quality yet again and won us the penalty. Will start to bang them in with more game time too.

Praying he stays this window and gets the minutes he thoroughly deserves.

Well played Matej 👏👏👏
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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by taio » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:04 pm

He has looked sharp and certainly provides something different.
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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Garnerssoap » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:06 pm

I find him a bit frustrating. I get that you need game time but he’s just always a nearly man. Nearly gets it under control under pressure, nearly gets played through, nearly finishes.
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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by DomBFC1882 » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:09 pm

Garnerssoap wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:06 pm
I find him a bit frustrating. I get that you need game time but he’s just always a nearly man. Nearly gets it under control under pressure, nearly gets played through, nearly finishes.
That's down to game time its that simple. You don't become top goalscorer in the championship if you're useless in front of goal.

I love how dedicated he is and chases "lost" causes all the time
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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Garnerssoap » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:14 pm

DomBFC1882 wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:09 pm
That's down to game time its that simple. You don't become top goalscorer in the championship if you're useless in front of goal.

I love how dedicated he is and chases "lost" causes all the time
Nah he’s just done it again. Played in , defender nicks it. I’m with Shaun now.

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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by DomBFC1882 » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:17 pm

Garnerssoap wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:14 pm
Nah he’s just done it again. Played in , defender nicks it. I’m with Shaun now.
Who's shaun?
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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by taio » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:21 pm

So pleased Vydra has had a good opportunity today. He has certainly been patient and deserved more time on the pitch. Pleased for him.
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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Dark Cloud » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:28 pm

I like Vydra and I'm pleased he got game time today. He looked really sharp and caused them problems and they're are different problems to the ones we traditionally pose, but I just want him to finish some of his chances because as mentioned above he's just such a "nearly" guy.
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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Wellsy1882 » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:29 pm

Him and Jay have to start soon if he doesnt go
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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:29 pm

Did well today, movement caused them all sorts of problems. I don’t think he should be starting yet though. Missed some chances. Jay on the other hand...

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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by tim_noone » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:29 pm

Up the Clarets!!
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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by DCWat » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:29 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:28 pm
I like Vydra and I'm pleased he got game time today. He looked really sharp and caused them problems and they're are different problems to the ones we traditionally pose, but I just want him to finish some of his chances because as mentioned above he's just such a "nearly" guy.
I do think he will do that, the more opportunities he gets. We do seem to play better football with him and Jay on the pitch.
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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Guller Bull » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:29 pm

Vydra was good today.

He is a quality player.

I am not his biggest fan or his worst detractor.

He is instinctive and creates chances (often of his own making by his press)

He is poor at positional marking whilst we are not in possession which is not in keeping with our game plan.

Him and Jay though together reminded me at times today of the good times when we used to play exciting attacking football.

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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by taio » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:29 pm

Really positive that today's front two did so well. Puts some pressure on Wood and Barnes which is no bad thing. Our improvement since the start of the season has been vast.

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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:31 pm

Played very well and deserved a goal. Made some good runs and looked sharp. Very wasteful in front of goal unfortunately but it didn’t cost us.

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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Grumps » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:32 pm

Ian Moore, but cost more. Burnley fans love him because he runs a lot. A half decent striker would have had at least 2 goals with the same chances he had.
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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Wellsy1882 » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:32 pm

How many times do we score 3 goals tho. Surprising that these 2 play and we bag a few

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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:33 pm

Wellsy1882 wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:32 pm
How many times do we score 3 goals tho. Surprising that these 2 play and we bag a few
To be fair we were playing against a pub side, they were absolutely atrocious.

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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Bosscat » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:34 pm

Wellsy1882 wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:32 pm
How many times do we score 3 goals tho. Surprising that these 2 play and we bag a few
Playing Doggie poop like Fulham is why 😏

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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by DCWat » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:35 pm

Grumps wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:32 pm
Ian Moore, but cost more. Burnley fans love him because he runs a lot. A half decent striker would have had at least 2 goals with the same chances he had.
Bloody hell, that’s harsh :D

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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:35 pm

I get those people who say he's too wasteful, but his pace and movement creates so much space for others. Forces the opposition back 4 a bit deeper as well.
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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Grumps » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:35 pm

DCWat wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:35 pm
Bloody hell, that’s harsh :D
Sorry Ian :lol:
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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by ewanrob » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:36 pm

Theres talent there, needs a run of games...but I get that Barnes and Wood may offer more defensively.

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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Prefeot » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:36 pm

Well hopefully after that performance the “All we are saying is give Vydra a chance” brigade will give us all a break. He offered very little against Fulham reserves tbh. He’s had (another) chance, he’s just not premiership. He’s not a bad player but offers us little. Benchwarmer at best and we can’t afford those. Good luck and goodbye Vydra (hopefully).

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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Tinribs » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:36 pm

Thought Vydra showed today why Dyche has him as fourth choice striker,was offside most of the time,and had three runs in on goal and messed two up before gaining a penalty.maybe it’s down to gametime but that obviously didn’t affect Jay Rod who should definately be starting in place of Barnes.

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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Guller Bull » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:37 pm

Grumps wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:32 pm
Ian Moore, but cost more. Burnley fans love him because he runs a lot. A half decent striker would have had at least 2 goals with the same chances he had.
Grumps - good comparison and not sure of your age but going back a bit further he reminds me of Liam Robinson.

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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:37 pm

The pitch didn’t do him any favours today. A few times he either left the ball behind him or his touch was heavy. Not ideal for these guys who are used to playing on pitches like carpets.

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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Dark Cloud » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:38 pm

DCWat wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:29 pm
I do think he will do that, the more opportunities he gets. We do seem to play better football with him and Jay on the pitch.
I tend to agree, we do look more of a "footballing" side when Vydra (and Jay) are on, but Vyds has to not only play well, but find the net when he gets his chance. Today, once again he looked really good, but he didn't score despite 3 or 4 excellent opportunities and it's also very hard to judge against what was clearly a poor Fulham second XI.

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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Wellsy1882 » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:38 pm

I dont wanr him to go
Sods law hel bag and bag for whoever he plays for

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Post by claretgimmer » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:38 pm

Anybody think we actually made Fulham look as crap as they did, we looked far sharper and quicker to react than normal, long may it continue
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Post by DomBFC1882 » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:38 pm

Prefeot wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:36 pm
Well hopefully after that performance the “All we are saying is give Vydra a chance” brigade will give us all a break. He offered very little against Fulham reserves tbh. He’s had (another) chance, he’s just not premiership. He’s not a bad player but offers us little. Benchwarmer at best and we can’t afford those. Good luck and goodbye Vydra (hopefully).
You must have been watching a different game fella. His movement dragged defenders all over the shop in turn making room for Jay to do his stuff. Don't let your agenda against Vyds stop you from seeing what is happening

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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:38 pm

The ball was running very slow on that pitch if you watch it again. Vydra couldn't bring it with him quick enough.

But what a team performance. Forwards having a partnership. Midfield always play better when these 2 play up top.

Must be a while since we won 3-0 away from home?

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Post by Raggus » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:39 pm

Prefeot wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:36 pm
Well hopefully after that performance the “All we are saying is give Vydra a chance” brigade will give us all a break. He offered very little against Fulham reserves tbh. He’s had (another) chance, he’s just not premiership. He’s not a bad player but offers us little. Benchwarmer at best and we can’t afford those. Good luck and goodbye Vydra (hopefully).
Seriously?
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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Wellsy1882 » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:39 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:34 pm
Playing Doggie poop like Fulham is why 😏
We played dog poop sheff utd other week and only won 1 nil

They give us so much more space and we are miles better to watch

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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Goodclaret » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:39 pm

I thought he had a good game today but he is just not clinical enough for me. I think Wood and Barnes would have loved to play against that Fulham defence today; they really were very poor at the back. That's why you can't just compare our result today to Wood/Barnes playing against the likes of Man U and Liverpool.

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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by bodge » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:39 pm

He did well with his first touch to get the pen but should have done much better particularly with the chance on his right foot first half, didn't get the required placement or power.

Gave the woeful Hector plenty to think about and contributed to a really good display, has to be more clinical to get the run of starts he wants when given his opportunity.

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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Down_Rover » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:39 pm

Still failed to score against a terrible defence

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Post by claretgimmer » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:40 pm

Vydra has missed a few chances today, no different to the un droppable Chris Wood then eh !
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Post by MACCA » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:40 pm

Some great runs
1 ruled out
Involved in 2 goals
Probably only a bit of match sharpness off getting on the scoresheet himself.
Not an ideal pitch for someone who likes and thrives with the ball on the deck, but did very well
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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by DCWat » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:40 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:37 pm
Grumps - good comparison and not sure of your age but going back a bit further he reminds me of Liam Robinson.
I thought Grumps’ comparison was harsh but that’s doubly harsh!! Liam Robinson made Ian Moore look like a world beater.

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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Milltown1882 » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:40 pm

Imagine our fans if it was Wood that missed the chances that Vydra did today. He linked play up well but in front of goal he was dire.

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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Grumps » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:41 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:37 pm
Grumps - good comparison and not sure of your age but going back a bit further he reminds me of Liam Robinson.
I don't think Liam ran around as much :lol:

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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by DomBFC1882 » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:41 pm

For the same people who defend Wood and Barnes when they don't score saying the offer more than just goals then I think you need to admit that Vydra ALSO offers a lot more than just goals. Ridiculous to think otherwise. Jay must love playing alongside him as he constantly moves and drags defenders around
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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Guller Bull » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:44 pm

DCWat wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:40 pm
I thought Grumps’ comparison was harsh but that’s doubly harsh!! Liam Robinson made Ian Moore look like a world beater.
:o How very dare you - Liam and Graham (Branchy) were legendary!
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Post by Tall Paul » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:44 pm

He played well today to be fair. Still think Wood is our best striker though.

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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Tall Paul » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:46 pm

DomBFC1882 wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:41 pm
For the same people who defend Wood and Barnes when they don't score saying the offer more than just goals then I think you need to admit that Vydra ALSO offers a lot more than just goals. Ridiculous to think otherwise. Jay must love playing alongside him as he constantly moves and drags defenders around
And the same people who criticise Wood for missing chances should be criticising Vydra for the chances he missed today.
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Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:46 pm

Grumps wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:41 pm
I don't think Liam ran around as much :lol:
He did but he just had very short legs so he didn't get very far.
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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Top Claret » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:47 pm

DomBFC1882 wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:02 pm
Quality yet again and won us the penalty. Will start to bang them in with more game time too.

Praying he stays this window and gets the minutes he thoroughly deserves.

Well played Matej 👏👏👏
You were watching a different game than me.

He is a striker and missed 3 chances, he will be disappointed
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Post by SkiptonClaret » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:47 pm

Vydra simply isn’t a regular Premier League goalscorer, he needs far too many chances. I suspect Championship or so is more his level. Wood and JR are our best options. We need a younger striker to challenge the more established.
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Re: Vydra (again)

Post by Prefeot » Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:48 pm

DomBFC1882 wrote:
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:38 pm
You must have been watching a different game fella. His movement dragged defenders all over the shop in turn making room for Jay to do his stuff. Don't let your agenda against Vyds stop you from seeing what is happening
I was clearly watching a different game fella

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