Young Clarets Mumbongo

[Danieljwaterhouse]

How it started......

How it finished.....

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He didn’t go anywhere and there were no FORMAL OFFERS? So how are making a point here?

[get stuck in tracy]

I agree if anything he looks out of place and clumsy - hope I am proved wrong

He did a bit but I remember Charlie Austins debut, Diving Boots comes to mind

[dandeclaret]

He didn’t go anywhere and there were no FORMAL OFFERS? So how are making a point here?

He didn't go anywhere, because Sean Dyche wanted a player who wouldn't take shirts off people in league 2 to remain at the club...... is that a fair summary of your argument?

[claretonthecoast1882]

He didn't go anywhere, because Sean Dyche wanted a player who wouldn't take shirts of people in league 2 to remain at the club...... is that a fair summary of your argument?

If Daniel says there weren't any formal offers for him then he will be right, his track record is spot on. He was first to break the McNeil & Tarks leaving before they left along with the signing of Phil Jones ages before he signed.

[Danieljwaterhouse]

He didn't go anywhere, because Sean Dyche wanted a player who wouldn't take shirts off people in league 2 to remain at the club...... is that a fair summary of your argument?
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He’s not good enough to play consistently in the premier league, championship, or league one. Therefore he hasn’t gone out on loan to any of those levels. He’s not technically good enough, he’s not positionally good enough, and he’s not physically good enough. He’s got pace and offers something others don’t in they regard.

He was likely kept as there was strong interest in Vydra and if Wood wasn’t injured I’m sure Vydra would’ve gone out. Dyche is pragmatic.

He’s a young kid, who’s adjusting to two different cultures in his short professional career. I hope he can develop the attributes above to a level that lets him have a professional career, but at the moment it doesn’t seem on showing that he will at this level or those below.

Interest isn’t an offer, there wasn’t an OFFER to take him at that level.

[Danieljwaterhouse]

If Daniel says there weren't any formal offers for him then he will be right, his track record is spot on. He was first to break the McNeil & Tarks leaving before they left along with the signing of Phil Jones ages before he signed.

[Danieljwaterhouse]

He didn't go anywhere, because Sean Dyche wanted a player who wouldn't take shirts off people in league 2 to remain at the club...... is that a fair summary of your argument?

After reading posts and your ‘likes’ you’re obviously not my biggest fan, so let’s agree to disagree.

This board is full of half wits, I am happy that you think of me as such. It’ll give you a little warm feeling of winning

[ClaretTony]

It’ll be really interesting to see how he develops.

I’ve only seen his two fleeting appearances but in those there were flashes of raw quality interspersed with the sort of inexperience that you might see from someone playing the game for the first time.

There’s definitely some potential in there, alongside his pace and strength. If we can smooth the very rough edges and he develops well, we might just have a player on our hands.

He’s a hell of a long way to go, which would be explained by him coming late to the game (I think I’m correct in saying that), which is why we should be giving him time and certainly not getting on his back if he doesn’t always perform when given chances.

I don't think he's come into the game late - he came through in Sweden and then moved to Hellas Verona. He was a youth player with Swedish clubs. I have to agree with Leisure's surprise in seeing him in the first team squad. Like Leisure, I was anything but impressed with what I saw from him in the u23s but there again it is now approaching 11 months since I saw them play and any player can develop substantially in that time.

The one thing he had that I saw was his pace but he does seem to have developed more strength from what I've seen in the couple of short sub appearances he's made. Sean Dyche has decided he wants to keep him with the firs team squad so that is something really positive when I'm sure we could have got him out on loan. I really hope he does well and good luck to him.

[MrTopTier]

I don't think he's come into the game late - he came through in Sweden and then moved to Hellas Verona. He was a youth player with Swedish clubs. I have to agree with Leisure's surprise in seeing him in the first team squad. Like Leisure, I was anything but impressed with what I saw from him in the u23s but there again it is now approaching 11 months since I saw them play and any player can develop substantially in that time.

The one thing he had that I saw was his pace but he does seem to have developed more strength from what I've seen in the couple of short sub appearances he's made. Sean Dyche has decided he wants to keep him with the firs team squad so that is something really positive when I'm sure we could have got him out on loan. I really hope he does well and good luck to him.

Think the improvement in development will be down to coaching, however I am sure I read that he had a serious knee injury, so whilst his straight line speed was were it was expected, his ability to turn and bend his runs limited his progression, if people are saying his strength has improved, then this will undoubtedly have helped his running and in turn his development, which may explain the progression in the last 12 months, good news for him and the club.

[2 Bee Holed]

Spot the difference

On the second photo.

No ball, this is taken at turf moor, no crowd, no opposition player, the kick has been taken, no adverts on the shirt, hooped socks, white shorts and two Burnley players.

Crikey that wasn't hard.

[ecc]

As you say Tony, SD must see something positive about the lad. He's watching him in training every day and, presummably, in our U23 games (in situ or on video) in addition to Steve Stone's comments. We can but hope.