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AI Scout

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:41 am

Has identified 11 players that have made it to round 2 of trials.

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Re: AI Scout

Post by JohnMac » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:45 am

I hope one isn't called Donny Drankwasser
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Re: AI Scout

Post by Bosscat » Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:06 am

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Re: AI Scout

Post by whentheballmoves » Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:39 am

That's great, and shows that it could bear fruit. The fact that only 11 have made it through shows that it will be a thorough process, in my view, and is worth doing. It's not going to cost the earth, and could easily be another avenue for players to make it into the junior and / or U23 set-up.
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Re: AI Scout

Post by jojomk1 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:18 am

Is it round 2 where they have to sing a song that they have written themselves ?
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Re: AI Scout

Post by KlyBfc » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:22 am

I’m sceptical about is benefits to Burnley FC. Mainly from the view point that domestically the professional game / academies / centres of excellence in this country and their many many scouts pretty much cover all the young players of quality... Even your likes of Jamie Vardy, who’s name usually gets trawled out as coming late to the game, was at Sheff Wed when he was younger. I just don’t see domestically how a player good enough for Burnley FC is going to be found via this scouting route .

Internationally perhaps there maybe greater scope as there is perhaps the pull of the premier league and greater areas where a gem maybe hiding. Though I thought the new brexit rules were going to restrict the arrival of younger players .

Also technical ability in isolated or conditioned drills doesn’t always equate into an effective footballer in a full game.

Just my thoughts and I believe (Just from reading posts) there are some scouts, former scouts or certainly people with a bit more understanding of the domestic youth set up on the board. These will certainly have more idea than me.
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Re: AI Scout

Post by ksrclaret » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:27 am

Sounds like a good signing. Am I right in thinking we got him from Stoke?
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Re: AI Scout

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:27 am

The Brexit rules just mean that those from the EU have to meet the same criteria as those from outside the EU and we can't just have any old dross and play them ahead of English lads.

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Re: AI Scout

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:27 am

KlyBfc wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:22 am
I’m sceptical about is benefits to Burnley FC. Mainly from the view point that domestically the professional game / academies / centres of excellence in this country and their many many scouts pretty much cover all the young players of quality... Even your likes of Jamie Vardy, who’s name usually gets trawled out as coming late to the game, was at Sheff Wed when he was younger. I just don’t see domestically how a player good enough for Burnley FC is going to be found via this scouting route .

Internationally perhaps there maybe greater scope as their is perhaps the pull of the premier league and greater areas where a gem maybe hiding. Though I thought the new brexit rules were going to restrict the arrival of younger players .

Also technical gifts in isolated or conditioned drills doesn’t always equate into an effective footballer in a full game.

Just my thoughts and I believe (Just from reading posts) their are some scouts, former scouts or certainly people with a bit more understanding of the domestic youth set up on the board. These will certainly have more idea than me.
I must admit I share a few of these thoughts but I guess you have to give it a go and if it leads to nothing then oh well.

I’m not sure why but I expected there to be more than 11 people making it through round one. Maybe they didn’t get as many submissions as they expected?

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Re: AI Scout

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:28 am

Maybe they didn't think that any others were worth seeing more of...

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Re: AI Scout

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:50 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:28 am
Maybe they didn't think that any others were worth seeing more of...
Very possible.

I just suspected from a world wide scouting app we would have taken more than 11 people through to the next stage.

I might be wrong but isn’t it a three stage trial? by the time they make the cuts in stage two and three I am assuming only one or two might make it through to trials with academy.

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Re: AI Scout

Post by TsarBomba » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:56 am

Scouts certainly don’t have all bases covered.

11 is a healthy amount. The process will be stringent, as it should be, and even if only one or two get through, it will be worth it.

This isn’t just about getting players for the first team, it’s also about making the academy self sufficient. If a few players are even sold for a nominal fee to lower league clubs, then it will be more than worth it.

I’m not sure why there should be any scepticism, to be honest. The club is using all avenues to identify young talent.

Edit- and you are not going to see the full benefit of AI during Covid and travel restrictions.
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Re: AI Scout

Post by jrgbfc » Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:02 am

Wonder how many videos they got of overweight, middle aged blokes attempting to do kickups in their back garden? :D

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Re: AI Scout

Post by RingoMcCartney » Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:07 am

Round 2 eh!?

Any that make it to the fifth round then put an half arsed disappointingly p*** poor performance , will get a contract.
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Re: AI Scout

Post by JohnMac » Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:56 am

It's a different approach to the other systems that rely on data input from a dedicated source. Here the candidate enters the data via a series of tests/questions. This may well somewhere down the line give an opportunity to a person that hasn't had the benefit of playing for a popular team watched regularly by scouts, or plays in a sh*te team that gets tubbed 30 - 0 most weeks.

It is only part of what we are using anyway and won't be the main focus of recruitment.

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Re: AI Scout

Post by KateR » Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:43 pm

it's different and as mentioned we haven't dropped other mechanisms, so we have jut added another layer, which in my book must be good. With it being early days. I could see it growing if after the rounds they make lots of announcements about the App they landed a deal of whatever kind with BFC leading to increased interest and further benefits down the line, at least they are doing something and we can see that.

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Re: AI Scout

Post by IanMcL » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:12 pm

Thank you BFC. I am really excited at reaching the final eleven.

I am so pleased that I kept my old boots so well with dubbing and they caught your eye for detail.

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Re: AI Scout

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:05 pm

Over 10,000 submissions to Ai scout

That’s actually pretty impressive

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Re: AI Scout

Post by TheFamilyCat » Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:57 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:02 am
Wonder how many videos they got of overweight, middle aged blokes attempting to do kickups in their back garden? :D
At least one. Although it was a singular kickup.
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Re: AI Scout

Post by randomclaret2 » Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:04 pm

Apparently one of the drills required is a 60 yard diagonal pass.Quite how you film that on a mobile I don't know but there you go.

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Re: AI Scout

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:17 pm

https://www.aiscout.io/

Just had a nosey at the site.

Didn't realise Chelsea use it.

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Re: AI Scout

Post by kentonclaret » Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:15 pm

At around the same time as investing in AI Scout ALK also invested in another London-based football technology firm Player LENS.

Any signs of they investment bearing fruit?

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Re: AI Scout

Post by NewClaret » Tue Feb 16, 2021 10:18 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:05 pm
Over 10,000 submissions to Ai scout

That’s actually pretty impressive
Wow! Wasn’t expecting 1000 to be honest!

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Re: AI Scout

Post by Longsider » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:34 am

If we get one decent signing from it then the top 6 will be all over it and normal transfer non parity will resume. We should make the most of it while we can.

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Re: AI Scout

Post by BenWickes » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:38 am

They were interviewed on BBC Business Breakfast yesterday morning around 5.20 am. Quite a few big clubs are using it.
He was saying there was a lad in India who filmed himself dribbling barefoot around rocks because he couldn't find any cones, or boots by the sounds of it.

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Re: AI Scout

Post by buzzclarets79 » Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:59 pm

Just watched the club video they released today on this, it actually looks quite good and sounds positive.

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Re: AI Scout

Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:16 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:18 am
Is it round 2 where they have to sing a song that they have written themselves ?
:lol:

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Re: AI Scout

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:27 pm

Did you see the one Dyche picked out as his favourite
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Re: AI Scout

Post by fanzone » Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:51 pm

Bosscat wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:06 am
Heres one sent in

https://youtu.be/29e8loYd37A
2;year contracts all round

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Re: AI Scout

Post by IanMcL » Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:44 pm

I have my trial next week. Great system!




Lawyers say 3 years solitary would be a blessing!
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Re: AI Scout

Post by Somethingfishy » Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:24 pm

BenWickes wrote:
Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:38 am
They were interviewed on BBC Business Breakfast yesterday morning around 5.20 am. Quite a few big clubs are using it.
He was saying there was a lad in India who filmed himself dribbling barefoot around rocks because he couldn't find any cones, or boots by the sounds of it.
So as the big clubs cotton on to it we move down the pecking order again. Advantage lost to us as a club..perhaps not to AP who has a stake in it though.

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Re: AI Scout

Post by NewClaret » Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:35 am

buzzclarets79 wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:59 pm
Just watched the club video they released today on this, it actually looks quite good and sounds positive.
Anyone got a link to the video? I looked at the club site and Twitter, but couldn’t find anything.

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Re: AI Scout

Post by HahaYeah » Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:42 am

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:35 am
Anyone got a link to the video? I looked at the club site and Twitter, but couldn’t find anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcCgJTM8eMM

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