Time for a shakeup in training?

[Mala591]

Might be a good time to ‘freshen’ things up on the training field? Different training times, different training routines, more focus on technical ball skills in real game practice etc

McNeil to practice with Lowton on the RIGHT wing. Lowton to practice as right half back. Taylor to practice as left wing back in front of Pieters. Long as centre forward for the last 20 mins of a game. Different tactics at corners and free kicks. 3-5-2 formation. 4-3-3 formation. 4-1-4-1 formation. This list of new/fresh ideas is almost limitless.

Everyone needs a bit of a shakeup (at work) now and again and professional footballers are no exception.

[ClaretTony]

Why don't you just take over as manager - you seem to know more and have more idea about how a Premier League club should be training than anyone we are currently employing. What was it the other week? An attacking coach?

[dushanbe]

Some good ideas, you should maybe put this in an open letter to all the UEFA Pro licence holders at the club.

[dsr]

Might be a good time to ‘freshen’ things up on the training field? Different training times, different training routines, more focus on technical ball skills in real game practice etc

McNeil to practice with Lowton on the RIGHT wing. Lowton to practice as right half back. Taylor to practice as left wing back in front of Pieters. Long as centre forward for the last 20 mins of a game. Different tactics at corners and free kicks. 3-5-2 formation. 4-3-3 formation. 4-1-4-1 formation. This list of new/fresh ideas is almost limitless.

Everyone needs a bit of a shakeup (at work) now and again and professional footballers are no exception.

Do you know for certain that they aren't doing this? From the way players continually say that they enjoy training more at Burnley than anywhere else they have been, I suspect that the idea of changing things up may have already occurred to someone at the club.

[duncandisorderly]

Not really. We had a bad day on Saturday, but still didn't get beat, and we've had a steady if not exceptional year so far with 12 points from 10 games. That form extrapolated over a season keeps us up 100% of the time, which is enough this year what with the takeover and covid and fanless etc

I've never seen this messageboard so furious at a cup defeat though, and I think that is making some people think we're doing worse than we actually are.

We could perform better, of course, but it's fine and will remain fine.

[ClaretTony]

Not really. We had a bad day on Saturday, but still didn't get beat, and we've had a steady if not exceptional year so far with 12 points from 10 games. That form extrapolated over a season keeps us up 100% of the time, which is enough this year what with the takeover and covid and fanless etc

I've never seen this messageboard so furious at a cup defeat though, and I think that is making some people think we're doing worse than we actually are.

We could perform better, of course, but it's fine and will remain fine.

Those first few words sum it up for me - as bad as we were on Saturday, and we were bad, we didn't get beat, and if Oliver had given that pen, which it was, and we'd scored it, I don't think there would have been anyway back for West Brom either.

[beddie]

To be honest the best bit of training advice Dyche could give his players (imo) at the moment is to take three days off, put your feet up and have a complete rest.

[Bosscat]

Not really. We had a bad day on Saturday, but still didn't get beat, and we've had a steady if not exceptional year so far with 12 points from 10 games. That form extrapolated over a season keeps us up 100% of the time, which is enough this year what with the takeover and covid and fanless etc

I've never seen this messageboard so furious at a cup defeat though, and I think that is making some people think we're doing worse than we actually are.

We could perform better, of course, but it's fine and will remain fine.

good post duncan ... spot on

[TheFamilyCat]

I think the op has a point. Let's spend time doing loads of different things then nobody has a clue what to do on a Saturday.

And before some smartarse mentions it, I know nobody looked like they had a clue in Saturday.

I can't wait for this lockdown to end and folk have other things to do than spend their days on this MB.

[Rileybobs]

Hilarious.

We should also tweak our tactics settings slightly. I'd turn our 'risk-taking' parameter up to 65% and set our our full-back positioning to 'high'.

[jurek]

It's been a stop, go, stop, go season so far with some highs
and quite a few lows.
Given we've not managed to bring in any decent fresh blood
coupled with the injuries we've had then it could be argued that we've done pretty well.

Not sure we need a shake up in training as such but also not sure
which way things are likely to go over the last 12 or so games and left wondering
where we're going to get the 8 or so points we probably require to be safe.

Just hope we can get a few more back over the next week or two
and get a couple of wins under our belts before we get dragged into
a relegation battle.
Southampton, Fulham and Sheff. United away, Newcastle at home
look our best bet for points and hopefully a surprise result/win in some of
the more difficult on paper games would help.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

The guys a genius.

Just been looking through the threads he's created and I think it's time to put him forward for the managers job when Dyche goes.

The end of Woods/Barnes
Shake up training.
Why don't we have more utility players
Have the fans reached a tipping point
Jack Cork for right midfield..

[Dyched]

A game of pass the parcel might do the lads good.

[Quickenthetempo]

Some good ideas, you should maybe put this in an open letter to all the UEFA Pro licence holders at the club.

Them UEFA pro licence holder coaches should start with the basics first. Like throw ins and not passing free kicks sideways out of play.

[Garnerssoap]

I agree. Try out mumbongo in goal as well.

[Top Claret]

They need a rest not more training

[MACCA]

If style hasn't changed, and no apparent plan B in over 8 years I doubt it will now.

Dont change what's working, and I'm sure the board have determined what they class as "working" to the manager.

Look what happened to Blackburn when they sacked Sam, and he did play some football at times, although arguably had better players to do so.
But in terms if reputation and styles, he's not that far ahead of Mr Dyche.

Be careful what you wish for

[Longsidelenny1882]

Well said macca utc

[Papabendi]

Happy to be appointed fitness coach. First thing I would do is give them 4 days off.

[Mala591]

They need a rest not more training

Sometimes ‘a change is as good as a rest’

[claretonthecoast1882]

Sometimes ‘a change is as good as a rest’

Try Pope in midfield and Westwood in goal for a change ?

[Bosscat]

I think the op has a point. Let's spend time doing loads of different things then nobody has a clue what to do on a Saturday.

And before some smartarse mentions it, I know nobody looked like they had a clue in Saturday.

I can't wait for this lockdown to end and folk have other things to do than spend their days on this MB.

I don't think its just you TFC

[jojomk1]

Try Pope in midfield and Westwood in goal for a change ?

That's not a bad idea

Westwood would surely be better in goal than midfield

Only joking Mrs Westwood

[Andreshotboots]

The only thing these boys need is a few days in bed, not baby making i might add as that's not resting..

They've bounced back from a poor performance before, and they will no doubt do it again, that's why they play for our great club!!

[fatboy47]

Surprisingly good bait from the OP. I like the cut of his jib.

Caught a handful of whoppers. Looking forward to more from this chap.

[randomclaret2]

We seem to be picking up quite a few injuries in training, that would be something that perhaps needs looking at ?

[dandeclaret]

Might be a good time to ‘freshen’ things up on the training field? Different training times, different training routines, more focus on technical ball skills in real game practice etc

McNeil to practice with Lowton on the RIGHT wing. Lowton to practice as right half back. Taylor to practice as left wing back in front of Pieters. Long as centre forward for the last 20 mins of a game. Different tactics at corners and free kicks. 3-5-2 formation. 4-3-3 formation. 4-1-4-1 formation. This list of new/fresh ideas is almost limitless.

Everyone needs a bit of a shakeup (at work) now and again and professional footballers are no exception.

Aye.... place where I used to work used to put all the specialists we'd hired to work in different areas. The problem came when we put the tea lady in charge of the investment portfolio and........ well, I guess that's why It's the place I used to work. Good shakeup though. Everyone needs it now and then.

[dushanbe]

Them UEFA pro licence holder coaches should start with the basics first. Like throw ins and not passing free kicks sideways out of play.

Give it a rest

[GodIsADeeJay81]

We seem to be picking up quite a few injuries in training, that would be something that perhaps needs looking at ?

Shush, last time we went through a spate of knee injuries Dyche got the blame for that one.

[Quickenthetempo]

Give it a rest

I'm not the one trying to belittle a poster who has a different opinion.

[huw.Y.WattfromWare]

SD has said himself it is the odd game days and odd kick off times that are disrupting preparation. Leave it to him.

[bfcmik]

The only thing these boys need is a few days in bed, not baby making i might add as that's not resting..

They've bounced back from a poor performance before, and they will no doubt do it again, that's why they play for our great club!!

Surely, baby-making is good for the mental top-up that is needed. All rest and no play makes 'Jack' (not pointing at any individual, lol) a dull player

[ksrclaret]

Another classic UTC thread.

Black and white.

[ClaretTony]

I'm not the one trying to belittle a poster who has a different opinion.

No. You are belittling those who are speaking sense.

[djemba-djemba]

Not really. We had a bad day on Saturday, but still didn't get beat, and we've had a steady if not exceptional year so far with 12 points from 10 games.

I agree with “steady” but 12/30 points and dumped out the cup by lower league opposition I don’t think I’d stretch to “exceptional”.

[Mala591]

My training schedule (30 years ago) as an amateur footballer:

Thursday night 7-9 pm, heavy training session on Towneley all weather pitch followed by 4 pints in the Park View.

Busy day at work Friday followed by 5-6 pints down town on Friday evening.

Worked EVERY Sat am until 12.30 got home at 1pm for Beans on toast.

Kick off up Towneley (home game) on a muddy strength sapping pitch at 2pm.


In retrospect I think the heavy training session would have been better on Tuesday evening as I sometimes felt ‘slightly drained’ in the second half during the Sat afternoon game

[claretonthecoast1882]

My training schedule (30 years ago) as an amateur footballer:

Thursday night 7-9 pm, heavy training session on Towneley all weather pitch followed by 4 pints in the Park View.

Busy day at work Friday followed by 5-6 pints down town on Friday evening.

Worked EVERY Sat am until 12.30 got home at 1pm for Beans on toast.

Kick off up Towneley (home game) on a muddy strength sapping pitch at 2pm.


In retrospect I think the heavy training session would have been better on Tuesday evening as I sometimes felt ‘slightly drained’ in the second half during the Sat afternoon game

So what you are saying is we aren't drinking enough ?

[Tribesmen]

So what you are saying is we aren't drinking enough ?

I think Beans on Toast was the problem

[Antmass]

Talking about throw-ins. It seems that only the Right Back or Left Back are allowed to take them even if there's a quick one as a choice. Quite often the other side have time to get into defensive shape whilst we wait for the correct thrower to arrive. Anyone else notice that?

[DomBFC1882]

This thread went exactly as I expected after reading the OP

[Quickenthetempo]

No. You are belittling those who are speaking sense.

If you don't agree with someone then either scroll past or debate it with them.

To get sarcastic and indicate you have no right to suggest anything because we have qualified coaches is not the best way to respond.

A direction this messageboard has tried to move away from in recent times.

[dandeclaret]

If you don't agree with someone then either scroll past or debate it with them.

To get sarcastic and indicate you have no right to suggest anything because we have qualified coaches is not the best way to respond.

A direction this messageboard has tried to move away from in recent times.

Debate if there's somethng to be debated. Did you read the opening post? I genuinely thought it was a windup thread..... is it serious?

[exilecanada]

Might be a good time to ‘freshen’ things up on the training field? Different training times, different training routines, more focus on technical ball skills in real game practice etc

McNeil to practice with Lowton on the RIGHT wing. Lowton to practice as right half back. Taylor to practice as left wing back in front of Pieters. Long as centre forward for the last 20 mins of a game. Different tactics at corners and free kicks. 3-5-2 formation. 4-3-3 formation. 4-1-4-1 formation. This list of new/fresh ideas is almost limitless.

Everyone needs a bit of a shakeup (at work) now and again and professional footballers are no exception.

Good plan giving McNeil a couple of outings on the right side to see what he can do teaming up with Lowton. I've thought that may be an option for some time. If memory serves, Arjen Robben made quite a good living plying his trade on the right side. He too was totally left footed. Taylor/Pieters combo on the left is something to consider as well.

[DomBFC1882]

Eric dier got "shaken up" from centre mid to centre half. Ignore some of the people on here Mala they always seem to know best. Anyway it's just an idea to be talked about on a football messageboard, nothing more nothing less.

[diamondpocket]

Too many defenders for my liking!

[Sozturf7]

Some good replies on here, to what I think was rather a silly post.

[Hibsclaret]

Or we could just be happy in the knowledge that all the best teams pick up points when they are not at their best. We played like the 1970 Brazil team at Palace just last week and won handsomely, then followed up with a point playing as bad as we’ve been since the start of the Europa league season at Wolves.

One thing is for sure I’d rather support a team that picks up points on off days rather than one like Brighton, for example, that seems to play well most weeks and rarely wins.

[Jakubclaret]

Should be a graded system based on performance related pay & not just here everywhere, you would soon see standards go through the roof in terms of trying & experimenting, aside from the usual bonuses which are present already before any attempt to ridicule the post. Anybody who scores less than 7 gets the pay docked 50% an independent knowledgeable person deciding, enshrined legally into every contract.

[dsr]

I think the mild dig at the OP wasn't because the post didn't make sense, because it does. It's because the post is obvious. Of course the training staff know about mixing things up. You might as well put a post on a Costa Coffee page suggesting that they use hot milk in their lattes - they already know that, it's unnecessary to tell them.

[TheFamilyCat]

Should be a graded system based on performance related pay & not just here everywhere, you would soon see standards go through the roof in terms of trying & experimenting, aside from the usual bonuses which are present already before any attempt to ridicule the post. Anybody who scores less than 7 gets the pay docked 50% an independent knowledgeable person deciding, enshrined legally into every contract.

Why on earth would anyone of sound mind wish to ridicule this post?