Time for a shakeup in training?
Time for a shakeup in training?
Might be a good time to ‘freshen’ things up on the training field? Different training times, different training routines, more focus on technical ball skills in real game practice etc
McNeil to practice with Lowton on the RIGHT wing. Lowton to practice as right half back. Taylor to practice as left wing back in front of Pieters. Long as centre forward for the last 20 mins of a game. Different tactics at corners and free kicks. 3-5-2 formation. 4-3-3 formation. 4-1-4-1 formation. This list of new/fresh ideas is almost limitless.
Everyone needs a bit of a shakeup (at work) now and again and professional footballers are no exception.
McNeil to practice with Lowton on the RIGHT wing. Lowton to practice as right half back. Taylor to practice as left wing back in front of Pieters. Long as centre forward for the last 20 mins of a game. Different tactics at corners and free kicks. 3-5-2 formation. 4-3-3 formation. 4-1-4-1 formation. This list of new/fresh ideas is almost limitless.
Everyone needs a bit of a shakeup (at work) now and again and professional footballers are no exception.
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Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
Why don't you just take over as manager - you seem to know more and have more idea about how a Premier League club should be training than anyone we are currently employing. What was it the other week? An attacking coach?
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Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
Some good ideas, you should maybe put this in an open letter to all the UEFA Pro licence holders at the club.
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Do you know for certain that they aren't doing this? From the way players continually say that they enjoy training more at Burnley than anywhere else they have been, I suspect that the idea of changing things up may have already occurred to someone at the club.Mala591 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:23 amMight be a good time to ‘freshen’ things up on the training field? Different training times, different training routines, more focus on technical ball skills in real game practice etc
McNeil to practice with Lowton on the RIGHT wing. Lowton to practice as right half back. Taylor to practice as left wing back in front of Pieters. Long as centre forward for the last 20 mins of a game. Different tactics at corners and free kicks. 3-5-2 formation. 4-3-3 formation. 4-1-4-1 formation. This list of new/fresh ideas is almost limitless.
Everyone needs a bit of a shakeup (at work) now and again and professional footballers are no exception.
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Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
Not really. We had a bad day on Saturday, but still didn't get beat, and we've had a steady if not exceptional year so far with 12 points from 10 games. That form extrapolated over a season keeps us up 100% of the time, which is enough this year what with the takeover and covid and fanless etc
I've never seen this messageboard so furious at a cup defeat though, and I think that is making some people think we're doing worse than we actually are.
We could perform better, of course, but it's fine and will remain fine.
I've never seen this messageboard so furious at a cup defeat though, and I think that is making some people think we're doing worse than we actually are.
We could perform better, of course, but it's fine and will remain fine.
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Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
Those first few words sum it up for me - as bad as we were on Saturday, and we were bad, we didn't get beat, and if Oliver had given that pen, which it was, and we'd scored it, I don't think there would have been anyway back for West Brom either.duncandisorderly wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:35 amNot really. We had a bad day on Saturday, but still didn't get beat, and we've had a steady if not exceptional year so far with 12 points from 10 games. That form extrapolated over a season keeps us up 100% of the time, which is enough this year what with the takeover and covid and fanless etc
I've never seen this messageboard so furious at a cup defeat though, and I think that is making some people think we're doing worse than we actually are.
We could perform better, of course, but it's fine and will remain fine.
Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
To be honest the best bit of training advice Dyche could give his players (imo) at the moment is to take three days off, put your feet up and have a complete rest.
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good post duncan ... spot onduncandisorderly wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:35 amNot really. We had a bad day on Saturday, but still didn't get beat, and we've had a steady if not exceptional year so far with 12 points from 10 games. That form extrapolated over a season keeps us up 100% of the time, which is enough this year what with the takeover and covid and fanless etc
I've never seen this messageboard so furious at a cup defeat though, and I think that is making some people think we're doing worse than we actually are.
We could perform better, of course, but it's fine and will remain fine.
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Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
I think the op has a point. Let's spend time doing loads of different things then nobody has a clue what to do on a Saturday.
And before some smartarse mentions it, I know nobody looked like they had a clue in Saturday.
I can't wait for this lockdown to end and folk have other things to do than spend their days on this MB.
And before some smartarse mentions it, I know nobody looked like they had a clue in Saturday.
I can't wait for this lockdown to end and folk have other things to do than spend their days on this MB.
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Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
Hilarious.
We should also tweak our tactics settings slightly. I'd turn our 'risk-taking' parameter up to 65% and set our our full-back positioning to 'high'.
We should also tweak our tactics settings slightly. I'd turn our 'risk-taking' parameter up to 65% and set our our full-back positioning to 'high'.
Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
It's been a stop, go, stop, go season so far with some highs
and quite a few lows.
Given we've not managed to bring in any decent fresh blood
coupled with the injuries we've had then it could be argued that we've done pretty well.
Not sure we need a shake up in training as such but also not sure
which way things are likely to go over the last 12 or so games and left wondering
where we're going to get the 8 or so points we probably require to be safe.
Just hope we can get a few more back over the next week or two
and get a couple of wins under our belts before we get dragged into
a relegation battle.
Southampton, Fulham and Sheff. United away, Newcastle at home
look our best bet for points and hopefully a surprise result/win in some of
the more difficult on paper games would help.
and quite a few lows.
Given we've not managed to bring in any decent fresh blood
coupled with the injuries we've had then it could be argued that we've done pretty well.
Not sure we need a shake up in training as such but also not sure
which way things are likely to go over the last 12 or so games and left wondering
where we're going to get the 8 or so points we probably require to be safe.
Just hope we can get a few more back over the next week or two
and get a couple of wins under our belts before we get dragged into
a relegation battle.
Southampton, Fulham and Sheff. United away, Newcastle at home
look our best bet for points and hopefully a surprise result/win in some of
the more difficult on paper games would help.
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Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
The guys a genius.
Just been looking through the threads he's created and I think it's time to put him forward for the managers job when Dyche goes.
The end of Woods/Barnes
Shake up training.
Why don't we have more utility players
Have the fans reached a tipping point
Jack Cork for right midfield..
Just been looking through the threads he's created and I think it's time to put him forward for the managers job when Dyche goes.
The end of Woods/Barnes
Shake up training.
Why don't we have more utility players
Have the fans reached a tipping point
Jack Cork for right midfield..
Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
A game of pass the parcel might do the lads good.
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Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
Them UEFA pro licence holder coaches should start with the basics first. Like throw ins and not passing free kicks sideways out of play.
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I agree. Try out mumbongo in goal as well.
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Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
They need a rest not more training
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Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
If style hasn't changed, and no apparent plan B in over 8 years I doubt it will now.
Dont change what's working, and I'm sure the board have determined what they class as "working" to the manager.
Look what happened to Blackburn when they sacked Sam, and he did play some football at times, although arguably had better players to do so.
But in terms if reputation and styles, he's not that far ahead of Mr Dyche.
Be careful what you wish for
Dont change what's working, and I'm sure the board have determined what they class as "working" to the manager.
Look what happened to Blackburn when they sacked Sam, and he did play some football at times, although arguably had better players to do so.
But in terms if reputation and styles, he's not that far ahead of Mr Dyche.
Be careful what you wish for
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Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
Well said macca utc
Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
Happy to be appointed fitness coach. First thing I would do is give them 4 days off.
Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
Sometimes ‘a change is as good as a rest’
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Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
I don't think its just you TFCTheFamilyCat wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:45 amI think the op has a point. Let's spend time doing loads of different things then nobody has a clue what to do on a Saturday.
And before some smartarse mentions it, I know nobody looked like they had a clue in Saturday.
I can't wait for this lockdown to end and folk have other things to do than spend their days on this MB.
Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
That's not a bad ideaclaretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:20 pmTry Pope in midfield and Westwood in goal for a change ?
Westwood would surely be better in goal than midfield
Only joking Mrs Westwood
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Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
The only thing these boys need is a few days in bed, not baby making i might add as that's not resting..
They've bounced back from a poor performance before, and they will no doubt do it again, that's why they play for our great club!!
They've bounced back from a poor performance before, and they will no doubt do it again, that's why they play for our great club!!
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Surprisingly good bait from the OP. I like the cut of his jib.
Caught a handful of whoppers. Looking forward to more from this chap.
Caught a handful of whoppers. Looking forward to more from this chap.
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Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
We seem to be picking up quite a few injuries in training, that would be something that perhaps needs looking at ?
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Aye.... place where I used to work used to put all the specialists we'd hired to work in different areas. The problem came when we put the tea lady in charge of the investment portfolio and........ well, I guess that's why It's the place I used to work. Good shakeup though. Everyone needs it now and then.Mala591 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:23 amMight be a good time to ‘freshen’ things up on the training field? Different training times, different training routines, more focus on technical ball skills in real game practice etc
McNeil to practice with Lowton on the RIGHT wing. Lowton to practice as right half back. Taylor to practice as left wing back in front of Pieters. Long as centre forward for the last 20 mins of a game. Different tactics at corners and free kicks. 3-5-2 formation. 4-3-3 formation. 4-1-4-1 formation. This list of new/fresh ideas is almost limitless.
Everyone needs a bit of a shakeup (at work) now and again and professional footballers are no exception.
Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
Give it a restQuickenthetempo wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:57 amThem UEFA pro licence holder coaches should start with the basics first. Like throw ins and not passing free kicks sideways out of play.
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Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
Shush, last time we went through a spate of knee injuries Dyche got the blame for that one.randomclaret2 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:44 pmWe seem to be picking up quite a few injuries in training, that would be something that perhaps needs looking at ?
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Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
I'm not the one trying to belittle a poster who has a different opinion.
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Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
SD has said himself it is the odd game days and odd kick off times that are disrupting preparation. Leave it to him.
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Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
Surely, baby-making is good for the mental top-up that is needed. All rest and no play makes 'Jack' (not pointing at any individual, lol) a dull playerAndreshotboots wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:34 pmThe only thing these boys need is a few days in bed, not baby making i might add as that's not resting..
They've bounced back from a poor performance before, and they will no doubt do it again, that's why they play for our great club!!
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Another classic UTC thread.
Black and white.
Black and white.
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Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
No. You are belittling those who are speaking sense.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:25 pmI'm not the one trying to belittle a poster who has a different opinion.
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Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
I agree with “steady” but 12/30 points and dumped out the cup by lower league opposition I don’t think I’d stretch to “exceptional”.duncandisorderly wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:35 amNot really. We had a bad day on Saturday, but still didn't get beat, and we've had a steady if not exceptional year so far with 12 points from 10 games.
Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
My training schedule (30 years ago) as an amateur footballer:
Thursday night 7-9 pm, heavy training session on Towneley all weather pitch followed by 4 pints in the Park View.
Busy day at work Friday followed by 5-6 pints down town on Friday evening.
Worked EVERY Sat am until 12.30 got home at 1pm for Beans on toast.
Kick off up Towneley (home game) on a muddy strength sapping pitch at 2pm.
In retrospect I think the heavy training session would have been better on Tuesday evening as I sometimes felt ‘slightly drained’ in the second half during the Sat afternoon game
Thursday night 7-9 pm, heavy training session on Towneley all weather pitch followed by 4 pints in the Park View.
Busy day at work Friday followed by 5-6 pints down town on Friday evening.
Worked EVERY Sat am until 12.30 got home at 1pm for Beans on toast.
Kick off up Towneley (home game) on a muddy strength sapping pitch at 2pm.
In retrospect I think the heavy training session would have been better on Tuesday evening as I sometimes felt ‘slightly drained’ in the second half during the Sat afternoon game
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Mala591 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:06 pmMy training schedule (30 years ago) as an amateur footballer:
Thursday night 7-9 pm, heavy training session on Towneley all weather pitch followed by 4 pints in the Park View.
Busy day at work Friday followed by 5-6 pints down town on Friday evening.
Worked EVERY Sat am until 12.30 got home at 1pm for Beans on toast.
Kick off up Towneley (home game) on a muddy strength sapping pitch at 2pm.
In retrospect I think the heavy training session would have been better on Tuesday evening as I sometimes felt ‘slightly drained’ in the second half during the Sat afternoon game
So what you are saying is we aren't drinking enough ?
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I think Beans on Toast was the problemclaretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:09 pmSo what you are saying is we aren't drinking enough ?
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Talking about throw-ins. It seems that only the Right Back or Left Back are allowed to take them even if there's a quick one as a choice. Quite often the other side have time to get into defensive shape whilst we wait for the correct thrower to arrive. Anyone else notice that?
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Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
This thread went exactly as I expected after reading the OP
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Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
If you don't agree with someone then either scroll past or debate it with them.
To get sarcastic and indicate you have no right to suggest anything because we have qualified coaches is not the best way to respond.
A direction this messageboard has tried to move away from in recent times.
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Debate if there's somethng to be debated. Did you read the opening post? I genuinely thought it was a windup thread..... is it serious?Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:17 pmIf you don't agree with someone then either scroll past or debate it with them.
To get sarcastic and indicate you have no right to suggest anything because we have qualified coaches is not the best way to respond.
A direction this messageboard has tried to move away from in recent times.
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Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
Good plan giving McNeil a couple of outings on the right side to see what he can do teaming up with Lowton. I've thought that may be an option for some time. If memory serves, Arjen Robben made quite a good living plying his trade on the right side. He too was totally left footed. Taylor/Pieters combo on the left is something to consider as well.Mala591 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:23 amMight be a good time to ‘freshen’ things up on the training field? Different training times, different training routines, more focus on technical ball skills in real game practice etc
McNeil to practice with Lowton on the RIGHT wing. Lowton to practice as right half back. Taylor to practice as left wing back in front of Pieters. Long as centre forward for the last 20 mins of a game. Different tactics at corners and free kicks. 3-5-2 formation. 4-3-3 formation. 4-1-4-1 formation. This list of new/fresh ideas is almost limitless.
Everyone needs a bit of a shakeup (at work) now and again and professional footballers are no exception.
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Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
Eric dier got "shaken up" from centre mid to centre half. Ignore some of the people on here Mala they always seem to know best. Anyway it's just an idea to be talked about on a football messageboard, nothing more nothing less.
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Too many defenders for my liking!
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Some good replies on here, to what I think was rather a silly post.
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Or we could just be happy in the knowledge that all the best teams pick up points when they are not at their best. We played like the 1970 Brazil team at Palace just last week and won handsomely, then followed up with a point playing as bad as we’ve been since the start of the Europa league season at Wolves.
One thing is for sure I’d rather support a team that picks up points on off days rather than one like Brighton, for example, that seems to play well most weeks and rarely wins.
One thing is for sure I’d rather support a team that picks up points on off days rather than one like Brighton, for example, that seems to play well most weeks and rarely wins.
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Should be a graded system based on performance related pay & not just here everywhere, you would soon see standards go through the roof in terms of trying & experimenting, aside from the usual bonuses which are present already before any attempt to ridicule the post. Anybody who scores less than 7 gets the pay docked 50% an independent knowledgeable person deciding, enshrined legally into every contract.
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I think the mild dig at the OP wasn't because the post didn't make sense, because it does. It's because the post is obvious. Of course the training staff know about mixing things up. You might as well put a post on a Costa Coffee page suggesting that they use hot milk in their lattes - they already know that, it's unnecessary to tell them.
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Re: Time for a shakeup in training?
Why on earth would anyone of sound mind wish to ridicule this post?Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:22 pmShould be a graded system based on performance related pay & not just here everywhere, you would soon see standards go through the roof in terms of trying & experimenting, aside from the usual bonuses which are present already before any attempt to ridicule the post. Anybody who scores less than 7 gets the pay docked 50% an independent knowledgeable person deciding, enshrined legally into every contract.