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Rochdale

Post by NRC » Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:48 pm

My home town club. I’m of the opinion they’ll survive (again.) Any doubters?

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Re: Rochdale

Post by elwaclaret » Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:02 pm

They may have picked up a bit again but I think they’ve left it too late this time. Wimbledon have been fighting and Wigan seem to be getting it together again. Even with a storming finish they are unlikely to make it out of the relegation zone.

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Re: Rochdale

Post by BurnleyFC » Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:03 pm

I think they’ll drop this season.

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Re: Rochdale

Post by CleggHall » Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:06 pm

Sadly cut adrift and recent win against Swindon comes far too late. Why they let regular top scorer Henderson leave on a free to Salford is anybody’s guess! Are doing well just to exist given no match day revenues during Covid but will drop to level 4 very soon ....a pity.

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Re: Rochdale

Post by NRC » Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:20 pm

@clegghall....... isn’t Clegg Hall fancy apartments these days? I remember having a teenage fumble there after I convinced her there were no ghosts
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Re: Rochdale

Post by Burnley1989 » Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:21 pm

I hope they drop

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Re: Rochdale

Post by tim_noone » Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:37 pm

Dodgy Town.

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Re: Rochdale

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:31 pm

Rochdale away when Measham scored and we denied them the play-offs was a brilliant night, had some good laughs at Spotland over the years.

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Re: Rochdale

Post by Devils_Advocate » Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:37 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:31 pm
Rochdale away when Measham scored and we denied them the play-offs was a brilliant night, had some good laughs at Spotland over the years.
Year before was better when we were here there and everywhere
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Re: Rochdale

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:59 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:31 pm
Rochdale away when Measham scored and we denied them the play-offs was a brilliant night, had some good laughs at Spotland over the years.
That was the game that had been called off twice, first time on Easter Saturday and then two days after York. They thought they'd cracked it with us having nothing to play for and even went in front. Then we sorted them out with goals from Ian Measham, Mike Conroy and Robbie Painter with Painter having the distinction of having scored the last ever fourth division goal.

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Re: Rochdale

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:34 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:59 pm
That was the game that had been called off twice, first time on Easter Saturday and then two days after York. They thought they'd cracked it with us having nothing to play for and even went in front. Then we sorted them out with goals from Ian Measham, Mike Conroy and Robbie Painter with Painter having the distinction of having scored the last ever fourth division goal.
One of my favourite away games, zero pressure on us, result didn't really matter to us and we just swatted them away. Great atmospehere, "What's it like to score a goal" sung to Measham who thought it was hilarious. It's great in the PL no doubt but the journey up was epic for people like me (going since 83) - the journey down not so much for guys like you who had seen the better times no doubt

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Re: Rochdale

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:44 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:34 am
the journey down not so much for guys like you who had seen the better times no doubt
Tell me about it - so hard to see that decline from where we'd been. No wonder I enjoy it so much now despite the frustrations of losing leads in the last two games.
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Re: Rochdale

Post by tim_noone » Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:15 am

Brendan o Connell was re-named Brenda...one for the boo boys I recall...moved to Barnsley not long after.

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Re: Rochdale

Post by Quicknick » Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:44 am

tim_noone wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:15 am
Brendan o Connell was re-named Brenda...one for the boo boys I recall...moved to Barnsley not long after.
And performed extremely well for them.

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Re: Rochdale

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sat Apr 17, 2021 7:46 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 8:44 am
Tell me about it - so hard to see that decline from where we'd been. No wonder I enjoy it so much now despite the frustrations of losing leads in the last two games.
I'm still to this day, scratching my head at just how quickly it happened.

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Re: Rochdale

Post by onewillieirvine » Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:07 am

I'm with Buxton with this, from the 1974/5 season finish to the Orient game is as dramatic decline in the fortunes of any club I can think of.

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Re: Rochdale

Post by djemba-djemba » Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:26 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:59 pm
That was the game that had been called off twice, first time on Easter Saturday and then two days after York. They thought they'd cracked it with us having nothing to play for and even went in front. Then we sorted them out with goals from Ian Measham, Mike Conroy and Robbie Painter with Painter having the distinction of having scored the last ever fourth division goal.
I always forget that Rochdale game was scheduled for Thursday 30th April between the York and Wrexham games. Wonder if it'd have got tense and if fatigue would have derailed things if the York game had been lost and the Rochdale game had gone ahead on the Thursday.

Went to Carlisle but always regret not going to York.

Wouldn't the distinction of the last ever fourth division goal go to Tony Daws? Cracking goal to level up the play-off final against Blackpool.

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Re: Rochdale

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:18 am

djemba-djemba wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:26 am
I always forget that Rochdale game was scheduled for Thursday 30th April between the York and Wrexham games. Wonder if it'd have got tense and if fatigue would have derailed things if the York game had been lost and the Rochdale game had gone ahead on the Thursday.

Went to Carlisle but always regret not going to York.

Wouldn't the distinction of the last ever fourth division goal go to Tony Daws? Cracking goal to level up the play-off final against Blackpool.
Play off games are not considered to be league games so Painter holds it.

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Re: Rochdale

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:24 am

onewillieirvine wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:07 am
I'm with Buxton with this, from the 1974/5 season finish to the Orient game is as dramatic decline in the fortunes of any club I can think of.
Quarter final of the FA Cup in early 1983(and should have won the first game), looking at extinction just over four years later.

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Re: Rochdale

Post by elwaclaret » Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:42 am

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:24 am
Quarter final of the FA Cup in early 1983(and should have won the first game), looking at extinction just over four years later.
I could not believe it when we lost at Crystal Palace, despite our league position we had demonstrated time and time again that come the big day, the Clarets turned up... sadly not for league games. The team massively underperformed in the league.

The year after we set off like lightening, I still maintain it would have been a very different season had we not lost Kevin Reeves to injury. It was the series of bad appointments following the dramatic failure of Bond that pulled the rug from a swift return. By the time Frank Casper returned we were on the floor at every level of the club, to the point the managers office was nothing more than a desk and meeting desk... nothing at all like the designer space with stocked fridge that Buchan had arrived to.

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Re: Rochdale

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:43 pm

NRC wrote:
Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:48 pm
My home town club. I’m of the opinion they’ll survive (again.) Any doubters?
I hope they do, but it's tight.
I must have mixed you up with someone else I know, I thought you were a Bury lad.

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Re: Rochdale

Post by djemba-djemba » Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:00 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:18 am
Play off games are not considered to be league games so Painter holds it.
Thanks Tony.

Am I right in thinking Jimmy Mullen never appointed an assistant that season?

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Re: Rochdale

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:09 pm

djemba-djemba wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 1:00 pm
Thanks Tony.

Am I right in thinking Jimmy Mullen never appointed an assistant that season?
I don’t think he did. I think it was the following season when Clive Middlemass came in.

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Re: Rochdale

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sat Apr 17, 2021 3:42 pm

Fighting hard. Good win today.

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Re: Rochdale

Post by NRC » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:59 am

Psychologically, to move up two spots from bottom must be huge. Big gap up to Wigan and AFC Wimbledon though, each of whom have won their past three. still, my virtual tenner is on them doing it

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Re: Rochdale

Post by NRC » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:10 pm

The climb towards safety continues. Since my OP they have played three, won three. Unfortunately for Rochdale, so have Wigan and AFC Wimbledon.

These three are the current form teams in the division. Fascinating scrap for survival

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Re: Rochdale

Post by thelaughingclaret » Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:29 pm

Conceded in the 97th minute to draw with Wimbledon tonight. They need a miracle or three now. That was their opportunity to put pressure on wigan.

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Re: Rochdale

Post by tiger76 » Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:31 pm

All they can do now is win their last 2 games and hope, but it's looking a tall order alas.

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Re: Rochdale

Post by Jimmymaccer » Wed Apr 28, 2021 7:06 am

Happy memories of going to places like Dale, Bury, etc (but some horrible results!).......that night was a fab sunny evening if I remember rightly, a party atmosphere and then great result to cement a tremendous season......

Good luck to clubs like that...........

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Re: Rochdale

Post by tim_noone » Wed Apr 28, 2021 7:58 am

Jimmymaccer wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 7:06 am
Happy memories of going to places like Dale, Bury, etc (but some horrible results!).......that night was a fab sunny evening if I remember rightly, a party atmosphere and then great result to cement a tremendous season......

Good luck to clubs like that...........
Soooooo.....glad we are where we are today.

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Re: Rochdale

Post by Silkyskills1 » Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:30 am

thelaughingclaret wrote:
Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:29 pm
Conceded in the 97th minute to draw with Wimbledon tonight. They need a miracle or three now. That was their opportunity to put pressure on wigan.
Wimbledon missed a penalty at 2-3 down and then the same player equalised in the 97th minute.

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Re: Rochdale

Post by Ric_C » Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:25 am

elwaclaret wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:42 am
we had demonstrated time and time again that come the big day, the Clarets turned up...
I was thinking about this the other week. Since the Orient game, there have been many "do or die" league games where at a one off occasion, Burnley needed the win and got it. I think our record is pretty good on these occasions, as the 2 relegations since 87 have both been gradually inevitable.

The play off finals, the last day nail biters - we have a good record in league games that matter. It's in our DNA

86/87 - Win or go out of the league
91/92 - York - Won in the last minute to win the title
93/94 - Play off final win
97/98 - Win vs Plymouth to stay up
2000/01 - Win at Scunthorpe to go up automatically
2008/09 - Play off final win
2013/14- Win vs Wigan to go up automatically
2015/16 - Win vs QPR to go up automatically

The only occasions where we could say to have "bottled it" are the Torquay play off game and the Coventry home game where we needed to win 2-0 to get into the playoffs, other than that, this is a pretty good record for any club.

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Re: Rochdale

Post by Quicknick » Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:17 pm

Ric_C wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:25 am
I was thinking about this the other week. Since the Orient game, there have been many "do or die" league games where at a one off occasion, Burnley needed the win and got it. I think our record is pretty good on these occasions, as the 2 relegations since 87 have both been gradually inevitable.

The play off finals, the last day nail biters - we have a good record in league games that matter. It's in our DNA

86/87 - Win or go out of the league
91/92 - York - Won in the last minute to win the title
93/94 - Play off final win
97/98 - Win vs Plymouth to stay up
2000/01 - Win at Scunthorpe to go up automatically
2008/09 - Play off final win
2013/14- Win vs Wigan to go up automatically
2015/16 - Win vs QPR to go up automatically

The only occasions where we could say to have "bottled it" are the Torquay play off game and the Coventry home game where we needed to win 2-0 to get into the playoffs, other than that, this is a pretty good record for any club.
Good post. I have argued the same with people in the past.

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Re: Rochdale

Post by NRC » Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:05 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:43 pm
I hope they do, but it's tight.
I must have mixed you up with someone else I know, I thought you were a Bury lad.
Before I became a global wanderer I might have mentioned I lived in the mill in Summerseat on a ancestor-board to this one
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Re: Rochdale

Post by elwaclaret » Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:18 pm

Ric_C wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:25 am
I was thinking about this the other week. Since the Orient game, there have been many "do or die" league games where at a one off occasion, Burnley needed the win and got it. I think our record is pretty good on these occasions, as the 2 relegations since 87 have both been gradually inevitable.

The play off finals, the last day nail biters - we have a good record in league games that matter. It's in our DNA

86/87 - Win or go out of the league
91/92 - York - Won in the last minute to win the title
93/94 - Play off final win
97/98 - Win vs Plymouth to stay up
2000/01 - Win at Scunthorpe to go up automatically
2008/09 - Play off final win
2013/14- Win vs Wigan to go up automatically
2015/16 - Win vs QPR to go up automatically

The only occasions where we could say to have "bottled it" are the Torquay play off game and the Coventry home game where we needed to win 2-0 to get into the playoffs, other than that, this is a pretty good record for any club.
If I remember the Coventry game was due to a Hungarian-esque performance by their keeper. I remember Gaza spinning around in complete shock when heir keeper saved a top corner free kick.. how differently we could recall Gaza’s influence, had that gone in.

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