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Anyone know about 6gi internet and their masts

Post by Chester Perry » Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:20 pm

They have been measuring up around Rosehill today and it seems they want to put one in front of my house - they claim not to need planning permission either. I cannot believe that in this day in age we have business and councils advocating additional street infrastructure like these monstrosities - from what I have found out to date the transmitter masks are at least 50ft high.

https://www.6ginternet.com/

all that and judging from the reviews it is a somewhat unreliable service to boot which is hardly a surprise given the atmospheric pressure/weather volatility in this part of the world

very p****d off at the moment

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Re: Anyone know about 6gi internet and their masts

Post by clarethomer » Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:33 pm

Is it blocking your view or on your land?

Ipresume its because there is a fibre cabinet near or other fibre connection close by?

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Re: Anyone know about 6gi internet and their masts

Post by Grumps » Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:36 pm

Loads where I am... No planning required

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Re: Anyone know about 6gi internet and their masts

Post by Chester Perry » Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:38 pm

Grumps wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:36 pm
Loads where I am... No planning required
what do they look like in reality?

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Re: Anyone know about 6gi internet and their masts

Post by aggi » Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:38 pm

Pretty sure that if it's near a road (and not in a conservation area, etc) then anything under 25m is Permitted Development and doesn't require planning permission (although I think there may still be some form of council permission required but that may be more a box-ticking exercise).

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Re: Anyone know about 6gi internet and their masts

Post by Chester Perry » Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:40 pm

clarethomer wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:33 pm
Is it blocking your view or on your land?

Ipresume its because there is a fibre cabinet near or other fibre connection close by?
do not know exactly where they are going to site it yet - there is a cabinet about 30ft up the road - we are surrounded by trees though a couple that overhung across the road from a neighbours garden were cut down recently - we just got some daylight and now this - a real downer

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Re: Anyone know about 6gi internet and their masts

Post by clarethomer » Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:44 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:40 pm
do not know exactly where they are going to site it yet - there is a cabinet about 30ft up the road - we are surrounded by trees though a couple that overhung across the road from a neighbours garden were cut down recently - we just got some daylight and now this - a real downer
Looking at the picture on their website they look to site it near the fibre box but appreciate 30ft isn't a massive distance so could still impact you.

The reality of what they look like - grabbed this screenshot from the video on the page you linked to
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Post by Chester Perry » Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:46 pm

clarethomer wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:44 pm
Looking at the picture on their website they look to site it near the fibre box but appreciate 30ft isn't a massive distance so could still impact you.

The reality of what they look like - grabbed this screenshot from the video on the page you linked to

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that is just vile

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Re: Anyone know about 6gi internet and their masts

Post by Grumps » Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:50 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:38 pm
what do they look like in reality?
Wooden telegraph poles

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Re: Anyone know about 6gi internet and their masts

Post by Chester Perry » Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:51 pm

clarethomer wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:44 pm
Looking at the picture on their website they look to site it near the fibre box but appreciate 30ft isn't a massive distance so could still impact you.

The reality of what they look like - grabbed this screenshot from the video on the page you linked to

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that is just vile

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Re: Anyone know about 6gi internet and their masts

Post by clarethomer » Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:53 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:51 pm
that is just vile
Almost as vile as realising deadwood was promoted on that video when I watched it in full :lol:

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Re: Anyone know about 6gi internet and their masts

Post by Grumps » Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:55 pm

There is one receiver near us, which isn't near anyone's house, then the wires go out via a series of wooden telegraph poles... Not pretty, both neither are phone lines

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Re: Anyone know about 6gi internet and their masts

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:03 pm

Whilst I wouldn’t want one outside my house I’m old enough to remember a skyline of BBC & ITV aerials on every rooftop. This is a massive improvement on that.

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Re: Anyone know about 6gi internet and their masts

Post by Steve1956 » Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:12 pm

Not good they can just put them up anywhere
https://www.facebook.com/18857579449345 ... 964634312/

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Post by Chester Perry » Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:21 pm

now a piece on it in the paper

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/news/res ... es-3203183

it is just absolute crap, the easy way to stop it is not to buy the service, which I repeat appears very susceptible to the volatile weather systems we have locally

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Re: Anyone know about 6gi internet and their masts

Post by Steve1956 » Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:24 pm

Will impact house prices and health probably,very unfair they can just put them anywhere

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Re: Anyone know about 6gi internet and their masts

Post by Chester Perry » Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:25 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:24 pm
Will impact house prices and health probably,very unfair they can just put them anywhere
I was thinking that too

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Re: Anyone know about 6gi internet and their masts

Post by Billy Balfour » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:07 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:24 pm
Will impact house prices and health probably,very unfair they can just put them anywhere
How will it impact health?

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Re: Anyone know about 6gi internet and their masts

Post by tarkys_ears » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:10 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:07 pm
How will it impact health?
Cos if 5G causes covid and that, imagine what SIX G will do!!!

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Re: Anyone know about 6gi internet and their masts

Post by Volvoclaret » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:14 pm

It will activate the microchip that the covid jab put into you.😁
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Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:31 pm

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:03 pm
Whilst I wouldn’t want one outside my house I’m old enough to remember a skyline of BBC & ITV aerials on every rooftop. This is a massive improvement on that.
Not to mention back in the 80s it was quite a common feature on roofs with the silver rods & hexbeams ect with the CB radios & ham radios, some of them antenna constructions were real beasts.

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Re: Anyone know about 6gi internet and their masts

Post by Chester Perry » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:35 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:31 pm
Not to mention back in the 80s it was quite a common feature on roofs with the silver rods & hexbeams ect with the CB radios & ham radios, some of them antenna constructions were real beasts.
I had a neighbour with loads of aerial - he was a radio ham - he died a few years back and thankfully the have all gone now- this 6gi stuff is damn abhorrent on the streetscape though

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Re: Anyone know about 6gi internet and their masts

Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:38 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:35 pm
I had a neighbour with loads of aerial - he was a radio ham - he died a few years back and thankfully the have all gone now- this 6gi stuff is damn abhorrent on the streetscape though
It is what it is, people want good signals to enable decent reception, you can’t use lollipop sticks, I agree it’s a eyesore visually within the area where the constructions are being erected.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:47 pm

There are a few near us. Must admit I did notice them immediately and even my mrs said who / whats 6gi? (I work in that industry)

I will be honest - they are pretty ugly.

In some places they are disgusing them as trees which look pretty realistic.

Is what it is, I suspect not much you can do about it.

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Re: Anyone know about 6gi internet and their masts

Post by Chester Perry » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:53 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:38 pm
It is what it is, people want good signals to enable decent reception, you can’t use lollipop sticks, I agree it’s a eyesore visually within the area where the constructions are being erected.
The best reception you can get is fibre into the house, this is just glorified wi'/fi and comes with all the attendant issues and the the visual clogging up of our streetscape, which many have been trying to clean-up for years, it is visual pollution for the profit of the few

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Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:57 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:53 pm
The best reception you can get is fibre into the house, this is just glorified wi'/fi and comes with all the attendant issues and the the visual clogging up of our streetscape, which many have been trying to clean-up for years, it is visual pollution for the profit of the few
You go underground by digging which brings its own problems or you go high in the sky & do it that way, I know where you are coming from & if it was being done on my street within the neighbourhood I wouldn’t be happy about it myself, so on that basis I do understand why you are jacked off about it.

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Post by Zlatan » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:59 pm

6G internet... or public WiFi to anyone else

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Post by Grumps » Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:09 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:59 pm
6G internet... or public WiFi to anyone else
... That you have to pay for, and have their equipment in your house
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Post by superdimitri » Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:14 pm

They have very good prices. If ones local you'll get good speeds and weather won't be an issue. I'd try it out if I were you. Yes the masts are ugly but the idea in itself is a very good one imo.

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Post by Chester Perry » Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:38 pm

superdimitri wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:14 pm
They have very good prices. If ones local you'll get good speeds and weather won't be an issue. I'd try it out if I were you. Yes the masts are ugly but the idea in itself is a very good one imo.
not what I am seeing from the reviews I have seen from actual customers

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Post by Steve1956 » Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:41 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:07 pm
How will it impact health?
Someone told me once wi-fi sends out radiation waves and gives everyone cancer.....but I'll believe owt anyone says,so he might have been bulls hitting me...I hope so anyway.🤪😂

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Post by superdimitri » Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:19 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:38 pm
not what I am seeing from the reviews I have seen from actual customers
There's also some good reviews. My guess is it's heavily impacted by range. If you have one very nearby you'll likely get a good service. It's about 5 a month cheaper than the best value fftc deals and might not suffer from traffic congestion and throttling that all the cheap fttc providers do. Compared to Virgin it's allot cheaper and it you want an ISP with a lot of complaints, that's Virgin.

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Post by Chester Perry » Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:25 pm

superdimitri wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:19 pm
There's also some good reviews. My guess is it's heavily impacted by range. If you have one very nearby you'll likely get a good service. It's about 5 a month cheaper than the best value fftc deals and might not suffer from traffic congestion and throttling that all the cheap fttc providers do. Compared to Virgin it's allot cheaper and it you want an ISP with a lot of complaints, that's Virgin.
I am with Virgin and they are the best service I have ever had in my 20+ years here and by some distance

at the end of the day the solution offered by 6gi is just inappropriate on a number of levels except price - and that should not be the driver when it cause so many other issues - I strongly urge people to kill this by not taking up their offerings
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Post by superdimitri » Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:49 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:25 pm
I am with Virgin and they are the best service I have ever had in my 20+ years here and by some distance

at the end of the day the solution offered by 6gi is just inappropriate on a number of levels except price - and that should not be the driver when it cause so many other issues - I strongly urge people to kill this by not taking up their offerings
I guess that shows that despite many complaints, its possible to be happy with a service. Also means if you're with Virgin you'd make a very healthy saving going with 6g.

I get you're aggrieved with the tower but they are offering a service for a lot cheaper than rivals, and that's welcome in my view. Any extra competition is only a good thing.

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Post by Chester Perry » Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:04 pm

superdimitri wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:49 pm

I get you're aggrieved with the tower but they are offering a service for a lot cheaper than rivals, and that's welcome in my view. Any extra competition is only a good thing.
I find a lot wrong with the argument - there is a significant ongoing social cost to the technologies deployment that does not exist with the fibre solution I have, that directly impacts on the daily lives of those who do not use the provider. With the infrastructure connection I have it is possible to change supplier just by the router - the physical connection is a one time short interval inconvenience to others, this solution is a permanent visible intrusion- 6gi is very different (and the sole provider on the infrastructure) and as others have suggested could have a negative impact on property valuations as a result, making it substantially more expensive - a fibre connection does not do that.

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Post by Billy Balfour » Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:34 am

Chester Perry wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:04 pm
and as others have suggested could have a negative impact on property valuations as a result, making it substantially more expensive - a fibre connection does not do that.
Similar arguments were used when telegraph poles first started to appear. In any case, there's nothing the council can do about it. The planning rules had a massive overhaul last year and now favour the telecoms companies and developers, rather than 'we' little people. I wouldn't like one outside my house, but I also don't like the electricity pylon in the field opposite. Thing is though, you truly are ******* into the wind if people are going to use conspiracy theories, regarding danger to health, in order to enhance their argument.

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Post by Chester Perry » Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:54 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:34 am
Similar arguments were used when telegraph poles first started to appear. In any case, there's nothing the council can do about it. The planning rules had a massive overhaul last year and now favour the telecoms companies and developers, rather than 'we' little people. I wouldn't like one outside my house, but I also don't like the electricity pylon in the field opposite. Thing is though, you truly are ******* into the wind if people are going to use conspiracy theories, regarding danger to health, in order to enhance their argument.
Never suggested the use of health argument, though I would say how the built environment looks, is cared for and regulated has a a part to play in social behaviours - and I am with you on the use of Electricity pylons, I have heard stories of landowners selling up because they couldn't stop the march of them, even when they offered to pay the cost of laying the cables underground.

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Post by Billy Balfour » Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:31 pm

I do have sympathy. Like I said, I wouldn't want to be looking straight at one when I opened our curtains every morning. Looks like the Govt basically give these companies everything they wanted.

It's the same with the developers. Have a look at who throws money into the party coffers. They have received more than £11 million from property developers and construction businesses since Johnson became prime minister, and those figures are 10 months old, yet we delude ourselves into thinking we have the real power when we cross a box in the polling booth. Money talks.

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