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Post by tiger76 » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:43 pm

Dyched wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:13 pm
Bayern Munich don’t need it, it’s as simple as that. Look at them, why would they agree to it? It wouldn’t make any sense. Same for PSG and I’d expect Manchester City to pull out of it of the current 12 clubs.
Yes I get the impression City are getting cold feet, and Pep's interview hardly helped dispel that theory.

And if those 3 don't participate then that could effectively kill the idea stone dead before it even gets off the ground.

This seems to be being driven primarily by the 2 Spanish giants who are both mired in debt, and need ready cash ASAP to bail them out of a big financial big hole.

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Post by superdimitri » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:44 pm

Time got the government to intervene and a chance to finally put an end to the ridiculous spending of the big clubs. Football was wrecked a long time ago by money and the fa did fa about it.

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Post by elwaclaret » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:47 pm

Dyched wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:40 pm
The part a don’t like about all this is how local fans want to be treated as some kind of “special fan” over foreign. Foreign fans interested in football have made our club grow far beyond what any local interest in us or English football could. To just dismiss their wants feels a bit wrong.

I’m very against it. But we can’t keep wanting to use foreign fans to grow our clubs/leagues then dismiss them as nothing because they weren’t there in days gone by.

There was a thread a few weeks back about how we can grow the club in The States, to make us better, richer and in a better position to challenge. We can’t now have the opinion that foreign fans mean nothing and are nothing.
I don’t think they are being dismissed as unimportant... but they won’t exist if the attendees (vast majority) of visitors to their local clubs stop feeling their club is a community asset. I have no problem whatsoever with every Burnley game being broadcast, for example.... but who would choose a game without atmosphere over a packed stadium with two partisan crowds?

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Post by Chester Perry » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:48 pm

SLco12 win the first pre-emptive ruling in a Spanish Court against FIFA/UEFA threats

it means that the whole thing needs to be properly tested in court

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Post by elwaclaret » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:53 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:48 pm
SLco12 win the first pre-emptive ruling in a Spanish Court against FIFA/UEFA threats

it means that the whole thing needs to be properly tested in court
It going legal is one sure fire way of ending up with Governments creating laws.... again for intelligent people they act like morons.

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Post by Lowbankclaret » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:55 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:43 pm
Yes I get the impression City are getting cold feet, and Pep's interview hardly helped dispel that theory.

And if those 3 don't participate then that could effectively kill the idea stone dead before it even gets off the ground.

This seems to be being driven primarily by the 2 Spanish giants who are both mired in debt, and need ready cash ASAP to bail them out of a big financial big hole.
Spurs have a debt of over £800 million, that’s why they will want to be in it.

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Post by Lowbankclaret » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:56 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:48 pm
SLco12 win the first pre-emptive ruling in a Spanish Court against FIFA/UEFA threats

it means that the whole thing needs to be properly tested in court
Surely they will have to get rulings in the 3 countries the teams are currently playing in.

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Post by Spijed » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:57 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:43 pm
Yes I get the impression City are getting cold feet, and Pep's interview hardly helped dispel that theory.

And if those 3 don't participate then that could effectively kill the idea stone dead before it even gets off the ground.

This seems to be being driven primarily by the 2 Spanish giants who are both mired in debt, and need ready cash ASAP to bail them out of a big financial big hole.
Are Man City getting cold feet, or just worried it might dilute the power they currently have at the top of the Prem, likewise Bayern Munich & PSG?

Call me a cynic.

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Post by tiger76 » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:01 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:55 pm
Spurs have a debt of over £800 million, that’s why they will want to be in it.
Maybe so but their fans will soon get tired of losing week in week out and propping up the league.

I presume most of that debt is linked to the new stadium, and if they haven't been generating any revenue by having fans in attendance, or even hosting other events such as pop concerts during the close season then I can see why they'd be in financial difficulties, mind you that didn't stop them splashing out 300k a week on Bale's wages did it, so they can't be that hard up can they.

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Post by Chester Perry » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:02 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:56 pm
Surely they will have to get rulings in the 3 countries the teams are currently playing in.
we await the hearings in Italy and the UK - highly likely the outcome will be the same - go to a proper trial to determine the answer

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Post by Sproggy » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:02 pm

City don't need a super league, they have unlimited money already. An extra few hundred million is nothing to them. The only difference in the ESL will be that they won't have to find inventive ways to get it into their coffers without setting off FFP alarms. I'm not sure why they're that bothered.

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Post by tiger76 » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:04 pm

Spijed wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:57 pm
Are Man City getting cold feet, or just worried it might dilute the power they currently have at the top of the Prem, likewise Bayern Munich & PSG?

Call me a cynic.
I don't know what their motives are, but I'm sure whatever they decide will be in their own self-interest that's for sure.

You are a cynic, but on this occasion I don't blame you for being cynical.

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Post by Chester Perry » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:06 pm

anyone wanting a short tour of post war to current day football finance could do a lot worse that this - it is worth the 15 - 20 minute read
Chester Perry wrote:
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The following is a link to a chapter to a book that is being touted by a chap called Rob Francis - this single chapter provides so much history to the financial changes in football that I thoroughly recommend you give it a look as a reference point to events, wider research should give a more rounded perspective

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Post by Zlatan » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:07 pm

Spijed wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:57 pm
Are Man City getting cold feet, or just worried it might dilute the power they currently have at the top of the Prem, likewise Bayern Munich & PSG?

Call me a cynic.
it could well be that Man City (who dont need the money) are seeing this as an opportunity to kill off major European rivals (Real; Barca et al) by saying they'll back it then backtracking to make the others the bad guys who are in loads of debt.

It will all come out in the wash, it stinks though - and they're all out for themselves

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Post by elwaclaret » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:11 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:56 pm
Surely they will have to get rulings in the 3 countries the teams are currently playing in.
And even then, Governments create laws... in reality all the big six have done is light another fuse... the only power they truly have is that sanctioned to them. If people keep their bottle and co-ordinate action, the current football organisations and governments dictate the game, all the power the Big 6 possess is at the behest of the rest, they seem to have missed that detail. Sure they can move the clubs to the States or wherever.... who kin cares at that point.
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Post by NewClaret » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:27 pm

Just seen that Marcus Rashford has tweeted an image of “Football is nothing without fans” image. Well done him. Hope he, and other young players, follow it up in interview although appreciate how hard that must be.
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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:28 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:47 pm
I don’t think they are being dismissed as unimportant... but they won’t exist if the attendees (vast majority) of visitors to their local clubs stop feeling their club is a community asset. I have no problem whatsoever with every Burnley game being broadcast, for example.... but who would choose a game without atmosphere over a packed stadium with two partisan crowds?
We will find out when this seasons viewing figures are released in full I suppose.

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Post by elwaclaret » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:34 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:28 pm
We will find out when this seasons viewing figures are released in full I suppose.
I bet if the wall to wall coverage continues once crowds are allowed back... you see far more being watched. I barely watch a match live except Burnley... now for sure I’d be a viewer for packed local derbies given fans and atmosphere, even delivered electronically... fans in the stadium, put bums in armchairs.

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Post by tiger76 » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:38 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:27 pm
Just seen that Marcus Rashford has tweeted an image of “Football is nothing without fans” image. Well done him. Hope he, and other young players, follow it up in interview although appreciate how hard that must be.
Yes seen that well done to him for standing a stand, and TBH we shouldn't be surprised he's hardly shy in speaking out on other issues is he, so why should football be any different.

The managers and players could be key in all this, if they aren't onside it'll be difficult for the owners to justify this venture.

Of course they could just sell the guys and girls who aren't on board and get new players in, and with these owners nothing would surprise me anymore, however apparently one of the main selling points to the ESL is supposed to be the product (i.e. the players themselves) so they do wield some power you'd assume, should they wish to speak out, however I do realise they're in an awkward place given they're contracted to these clubs.

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Post by Lowbankclaret » Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:39 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:11 pm
And even then, Governments create laws... in reality all the big six have done is light another fuse... the only power they truly have is that sanctioned to them. If people keep their bottle and co-ordinate action, the current football organisations and governments dictate the game, all the power the Big 6 possess is at the behest of the rest, they seem to have missed that detail. Sure they can move the clubs to the States or wherever.... who kin cares at that point.
Be interesting to see if Boris follows on his words about dropping a legislative bomb on the new Super league.

Could prevent visas was one thought.
Certainly can withdraw Police funding for matches, that could be popular if he says the money would go to community policing.

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:04 pm

https://twitter.com/ben_rumsby/status/1 ... 85474?s=19

This is interesting.
I'd completely forgotten about this deal at Chelsea about the pitch etc.
This could throw a very big cat amongst the pigeons at Chelsea.

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Post by Spijed » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:06 pm

Florentino Perez says Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea and Co can't leave European Super League.

"Florentino Perez has revealed that all 12 founding clubs of the European Super League have signed a legally binding contract, which means they cannot leave under any circumstances. The concerning revelation from the Real Madrid president is a dagger to the hearts of loyal fans of the Big Six, who are desperate to see the elaborate plans engineered by their greedy owners fall like a deck of cards."

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/footbal ... ol-Chelsea

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:11 pm

live feed of the Chelsea protests if you are so inclined to watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvnieFO2sho

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:14 pm

My son just asked me, what happens to their academies if they fly solo?
It's a good question, I can't see the youths being entertained by the prem or FA, if the parent clubs have quit.
So many unanswered questions. It just grows as it goes.

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Post by Chester Perry » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:15 pm

Spijed wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:06 pm
Florentino Perez says Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea and Co can't leave European Super League.

"Florentino Perez has revealed that all 12 founding clubs of the European Super League have signed a legally binding contract, which means they cannot leave under any circumstances. The concerning revelation from the Real Madrid president is a dagger to the hearts of loyal fans of the Big Six, who are desperate to see the elaborate plans engineered by their greedy owners fall like a deck of cards."

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/footbal ... ol-Chelsea
There is nothing to stop the Super League morphing into a more settled version of the International Champions Cup every summer if they lose the battle - in many ways that will suit them more as it is a third competition

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:18 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:11 pm
live feed of the Chelsea protests if you are so inclined to watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvnieFO2sho
"We want our Chelsea back"

The Chelsea that had Ian Porterhouse as manager and barely threatened the top half of the table in front of crowds of 13,000? I suspect they don't want that Chelsea back.

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Post by Chester Perry » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:24 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:18 pm
"We want our Chelsea back"

The Chelsea that had Ian Porterhouse as manager and barely threatened the top half of the table in front of crowds of 13,000? I suspect they don't want that Chelsea back.
reminds me of Teasedale out

surprised that so many are allowed to drink so freely on the street so close to a football ground

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:25 pm

Sky and BT reportedly looking at legal action against the big 6 because their actions will potentially result in the devaluing of the TV deals...

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Post by Dyched » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:26 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:38 pm
Yes seen that well done to him for standing a stand, and TBH we shouldn't be surprised he's hardly shy in speaking out on other issues is he, so why should football be any different.

The managers and players could be key in all this, if they aren't onside it'll be difficult for the owners to justify this venture.

Of course they could just sell the guys and girls who aren't on board and get new players in, and with these owners nothing would surprise me anymore, however apparently one of the main selling points to the ESL is supposed to be the product (i.e. the players themselves) so they do wield some power you'd assume, should they wish to speak out, however I do realise they're in an awkward place given they're contracted to these clubs.
The fact that the owners of the Shite Six have hidden away whilst they’ve left their managers and players to deal with the outcry will most certainly convince them that the idea of the Super League is nonsense. I think those very actions by the owners, shows it’s for themselves and nobody else.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:27 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:24 pm
reminds me of Teasedale out

surprised that so many are allowed to drink so freely on the street so close to a football ground
yeah but this will kick off and that didn't !

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Post by Lowbankclaret » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:28 pm

Dyched wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:26 pm
The fact that the owners of the Shite Six have hidden away whilst they’ve left their managers and players to deal with the outcry will most certainly convince them that the idea of the Super League is nonsense. I think those very actions by the owners, shows it’s for themselves and nobody else.
In situations like this, I suspect they all agreed not make public comments in person.

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Post by Chester Perry » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:33 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:25 pm
Sky and BT reportedly looking at legal action against the big 6 because their actions will potentially result in the devaluing of the TV deals...
one of the reasons I said it would rumble on through next season and not start this August
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Post by FCBurnley » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:34 pm

I am sure it has been published somewhere but I have been unable to find out who the owners/board/ president/ brains are behind the ESL

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Post by Dyched » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:35 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:28 pm
In situations like this, I suspect they all agreed not make public comments in person.
Of course. But they’ve thrown their employees under the bus. They’re in a terrible situation where they have to speak out publicly against their employers to somehow defend themselves against something they haven’t done.

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Post by jtv » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:39 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:28 pm
In situations like this, I suspect they all agreed not make public comments in person.
Looks like the Real Madrid shyster is the spokesperson.

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Post by Chester Perry » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:40 pm

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I am sure it has been published somewhere but I have been unable to find out who the owners/board/ president/ brains are behind the ESL
Perez has been trying to make it happen for 14 years and is Chairman

JP Morgan are the backers - they financed the Glazer takeover of United - United took Lead advisor Ed Woodward with them when it completed

Joel Glazer and John Henry are the two owners driving it the hardest - the same two were behind Project Big Picture

Ivan Gazidis now running AC Milan and once of Arsenal has also been very active in it as well - both those clubs are owned by American Private Equity groups

It was all in the Statement on Sunday night - the release of which was timed for Prime Time morning news in Asia and the Far East and Prime time evening news in the US

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Post by boatshed bill » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:43 pm

Personally i would love it if the 6 left.
What concerns me is the possibility of them maintaining PL status at the same time, and having U23 and U18 teams in their relevant domestic competitions.
i'm also guessing they would be able to employ more top class players to play in the ESL not named in PL squad, and even cherry-pick extra coaching staff from the 14.

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Post by kentonclaret » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:43 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:25 pm
Sky and BT reportedly looking at legal action against the big 6 because their actions will potentially result in the devaluing of the TV deals...

I actually posted on Sunday on here, that one of the main reasons for Gary Neville and other Sky presenters being so vociferous in their objections was that the TV product being currently offered by Sky would be watered down and damaged by this ESL. No surprise that they are concerned enough to consider legal action.

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Post by tiger76 » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:43 pm

Dyched wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:26 pm
The fact that the owners of the Shite Six have hidden away whilst they’ve left their managers and players to deal with the outcry will most certainly convince them that the idea of the Super League is nonsense. I think those very actions by the owners, shows it’s for themselves and nobody else.
Absolutely the owners of the big 6 have been conspicuous by their absence, and that's telling in itself, why if their great new concept is so wonderful are the so reticent to appear in front of the world's media and promote their fabulous new league.

The only one who's so far put his head above the parapet is Florentino Perez of RM, I don't agree with what he said, but at least he's actually fronted up and explained his reasoning for why they support the ESL, the owners of the 6 English teams have been eerily silent on the matter, and yes it's not really fair that they've basically left their own managers and players to hang out to dry, and be questioned by the media outlets when few or any know all the details more than the general public does.

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Post by FCBurnley » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:46 pm

Thanks Chester. I have seen comments by Pérez and assumed he was part of it and was aware of the JP Morgan cash. Sounds like a typical American sports deal similar to NFL etc. In the UK we would call it a cartel.

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Post by Spijed » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:48 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:15 pm
There is nothing to stop the Super League morphing into a more settled version of the International Champions Cup every summer if they lose the battle - in many ways that will suit them more as it is a third competition
Even if they were to sit down with UEFA and agree a compromise I don't see how they can possibly shoe horn Arsenal into any reformed version of the Champions League when they are so far off qualifying for the top four at present.

Would be interesting to see what argument they could possibly use to give the Gunners a place in Europe.

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Re: “A blatant power grab” – Fans criticise own clubs on UCL plans

Post by Chester Perry » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:49 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:27 pm
yeah but this will kick off and that didn't !
indeed warm weather, alcohol and a sense of indignation and a party atmosphere what could go wrong

though it does seem like some kind of super spreader experiment

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Post by elwaclaret » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:50 pm

Madrid Chairman says sign up was a legally binding agreement that they could not withdraw from.... which law was applied? If it proves the case surely safeguards already exist to prevent clubs actively undermining the integrity of the game....

Pull the plug on their games ASAP, sooner the leeches go from competition the better.

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Post by Chester Perry » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:51 pm

Spijed wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:48 pm
Even if they were to sit down with UEFA and agree a compromise I don't see how they can possibly shoe horn Arsenal into any reformed version of the Champions League when they are so far off qualifying for the top four at present.

Would be interesting to see what argument they could possibly use to give the Gunners a place in Europe.
Arsenal are much higher in the coefficient table than you think

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Re: “A blatant power grab” – Fans criticise own clubs on UCL plans

Post by Rowls » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:52 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 9:42 am
Give it a few weeks and Sky will be in a state of heavily soiled underwear distress , they’ll no more sacrifice their premier league Crown Jewels ie “the big 6” than have Barry Bennell presenting Soccer Saturday . The ESL know their leverage is huge and no doubt PSG/Bayern et al will be on board after Quatar
I think they've over played their hand.

Yes, the Greedy 6 are the biggest draw in the Premier League but what are they without the Premier League?

Answer: They are nothing without the Premier League. Nothing.

Their Euro Stupid League will not work without a domestic league.

Now is the time to cut them down to size and also can this stupid Euro-qualification by "co-efficient" scam which they would otherwise have snook under the radar.
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Post by Dyched » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:52 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:43 pm
Personally i would love it if the 6 left.
What concerns me is the possibility of them maintaining PL status at the same time, and having U23 and U18 teams in their relevant domestic competitions.
i'm also guessing they would be able to employ more top class players to play in the ESL not named in PL squad, and even cherry-pick extra coaching staff from the 14.
I said only on in the thread it could be a great opportunity to reinvent the English game. Wage caps, fee caps, tickets caps etc etc. I also suggested a sort of league admin fee whereas if any club from the Super League wanted to but a player from the Premier League they’d have to pay a huge fee on top of the transfer fee. This then could be reinvested back into the game.

If everyone from the FA, EFL, EPL etc got together and formed a plan without the 6 clubs it could be the making of something special.
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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:52 pm

Spijed wrote:
Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:48 pm
Even if they were to sit down with UEFA and agree a compromise I don't see how they can possibly shoe horn Arsenal into any reformed version of the Champions League when they are so far off qualifying for the top four at present.

Would be interesting to see what argument they could possibly use to give the Gunners a place in Europe.
https://twitter.com/sportbible/status/1 ... 03907?s=19

This Arsenal fan knows they can't justify being in there..

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Re: “A blatant power grab” – Fans criticise own clubs on UCL plans

Post by Lowbankclaret » Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:53 pm

Unconfirmed reports Chelsea have decided to pull out of the super league. Fans were blocking the players entrance and have now walked away after Petra Cech spoke to the supporters.

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