“A blatant power grab” – Fans criticise own clubs on UCL plans
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Fair play to the Chelsea fans, good to know they are still at Stamford Bridge somewhere.Chester Perry wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:52 pmChelsea have apparently backed out
https://twitter.com/danroan/status/1384564733433597952
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Someone needs to tell them Stoke got relegated though.elwaclaret wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:55 pmFair play to the Chelsea fans, good to know they are still at Stamford Bridge somewhere.
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Now we have no idea what got them to change course, but if fans preventing a game being able to go ahead does the trick, we should mobilise and stop the other 5 being able to play games. I could just imagine Old Trafford being surrounded by fans in multiple club colours in a peaceful process which just means the players cannot get to the ground. Now that would be amazing if we could pull that off.
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Hmm! could we see a domino effect now?Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:53 pmUnconfirmed reports Chelsea have decided to pull out of the super league. Fans were blocking the players entrance and have now walked away after Petra Cech spoke to the supporters.
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Chelski now bottling it, I don't think they anticipated the fans reaction.
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Looks like theyre going to crumble.
Not over yet but there needs to be a punishment for all the clubs who declared their hand once the battle is won.
And the opportunity needs to be taken to remove all their insidious anti-competition tricks and scams including the "coefficients".
Not over yet but there needs to be a punishment for all the clubs who declared their hand once the battle is won.
And the opportunity needs to be taken to remove all their insidious anti-competition tricks and scams including the "coefficients".
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Chelsea pulling out !!!! Get on the blower Pacey while I renew my passport.
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Contract lawelwaclaret wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:50 pmMadrid Chairman says sign up was a legally binding agreement that they could not withdraw from.... which law was applied?
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Chelsea can have their cold night in Stoke if the Premier League relegates them for this effrontery.
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Good news if Chelsea pull out, it opens the door for Citeh, who don't need the money or the ESL, to follow.
If the big 12 become the little 10 it will die a death on its own.
But it also opens the door for the 14 other teams in the Prem to put in place some much needed changes to stop this from reoccurring every 2 years in another guise.
If the big 12 become the little 10 it will die a death on its own.
But it also opens the door for the 14 other teams in the Prem to put in place some much needed changes to stop this from reoccurring every 2 years in another guise.
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Breaking news on Twitter that City have pulled out.
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Dropping out - no strings attached needs to be the approach here, as a minimum. I’d be penalising them on top of this.
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These clubs should still be made an example of.
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There needs to be a punishment and they need to be made an example of.
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The more thought I give this the more I hope there are legally tied in.... then either way they have put themselves in it up to their grubby necks.
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Chelsea pulling out....
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it's worked though by the looks of itChester Perry wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:49 pmindeed warm weather, alcohol and a sense of indignation and a party atmosphere what could go wrong
though it does seem like some kind of super spreader experiment
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According to Collymore, Barca and Athletico have pulled out.
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Do we get the opportunity to sing Anti football at the big six now without being ironic? (maybe two days late)
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Was all this just a bluff then, for the big teams to gauge the reaction - had it been positive they'd have done it, but now they can pull out and spin it like 'they've listened to the fans' and 'right for the game' etc.
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Maybe it was but they need to be punished.duncandisorderly wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:21 pmWas all this just a bluff then, for the big teams to gauge the reaction - had it been positive they'd have done it, but now they can pull out and spin it like 'they've listened to the fans' and 'right for the game' etc.
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reports now that the SLco12 are meeting tonight to shut down
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It may well be that Zlatan, but hopefully the start of the domino's falling and this bonkers idea being scrapped.
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I think they’ve gone to far, there will be severe punishments, or at least a releveling of the haves and have nots. This could end up have being just what the leagues needed if they play their cards right. It was beyond disgusting and I doubt many will be willing to brush it off.duncandisorderly wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:21 pmWas all this just a bluff then, for the big teams to gauge the reaction - had it been positive they'd have done it, but now they can pull out and spin it like 'they've listened to the fans' and 'right for the game' etc.
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Plotting a third wave!?Chester Perry wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:24 pmreports now that the SLco12 are meeting tonight to shut down
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Blimey! they can't wait to pull out now, what has changed their minds so quickly. it can't purely be down to the fan backlash surely, they must have expected this kind of reaction, so it makes me wonder what developments have occurred this evening to cause them to back out.
I still think the fact Bayern and PSG aren't interested has played a major part in these u-turns, let's be honest where's the benefit for Chelsea and City to play teams like Atlético, Inter & Juve, there's no glamour in those games that I can see, so beyond Barca and Real I don't see the attraction for the broadcasters, and that's more likely to have played a part then any morals from either English club.
I still think the fact Bayern and PSG aren't interested has played a major part in these u-turns, let's be honest where's the benefit for Chelsea and City to play teams like Atlético, Inter & Juve, there's no glamour in those games that I can see, so beyond Barca and Real I don't see the attraction for the broadcasters, and that's more likely to have played a part then any morals from either English club.
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Credit to the clubs involved who have listened to their fans, recognised they have made a big mistake and are now taking action to rectify the situation.
Get it closed down tonight, act like it never happened and everyone's a winner baby
Get it closed down tonight, act like it never happened and everyone's a winner baby
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That’s what should happen - bet it doesn’t though. I can see pandering on the horizon when it should be anything but.elwaclaret wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:26 pmI think they’ve gone to far, there will be severe punishments, or at least a releveling of the haves and have nots. This could end up have being just what the leagues needed if they play their cards right. It was beyond disgusting and I doubt many will be willing to brush it off.
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Premier League rules state that you aren't allowed to join any other competition without prior approval.
They certainly announced their intent to break this rule but the PL needs legal advice on whether this evident intent is enough to justify a punishment.
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I really hope that the power grab has turned into something that causes this lot to lose what power they did have - they have to face sanctions for sure
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Just maybe the fact the government was going to get involved added the final straw, being as Labour said they would support action as well. They could have lost control of the clubs they bought.
Looks like it’s fallen like a pack of cards. Surprise to me thought they would have pushed this further. They now have less power with the controlling bodies not more IMO.
Looks like it’s fallen like a pack of cards. Surprise to me thought they would have pushed this further. They now have less power with the controlling bodies not more IMO.
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Say what you want about the ESL, the knock-out stages are exciting
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Anyone still doubting me?Awayfromburnley wrote: ↑Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:17 pmThis isn't happening. 100% not happening.
It's just a Drama. Read between the lines.
Champions League changes approved yesterday without a noise.
We're being played.
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This can't be allowed to just go away. These set of shysters need punishing heavily.
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They need to have there power reduced now in the premier league and I’d love them all to be banned from the champions league for a year
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Chelsea were likely to be the weakest link, firstly because of the pitch issues, but also because the chairman is a football fan with loads of money rather than a person with loads of money that bought a football club. I have a feeling that the man city sheik might fall into that category too.
If their change of heart causes a collapse, then good for them.
There are a lot of people who have done themselves huge credit here, ranging from shearer and Wright to James cordon, who I suddenly have a bit more respect for.
That real madrid have emerged as ringleaders is no surprise. Their greed with the Spanish TV rights has led to their league being completely uncompetitive for years and hence even if they and Barcelona cream off most of the loot, their swag bag is still not big enough as an uncompetitive league is not particularly marketable. You would have thought they would have learned.
Football isn't dying. It is dying in Spain, and it is their greed that killed it.
I hope now that the remaining 4 now pisss right off. Roma and lazio can make up the numbers. Losing a couple of mediocre London clubs and the two others that attract glory hunters won't do anywhere near as much damage as losing 6. Rangers and celtic can make up 2 of the places with hibs and the fourth placed club joining the championship followed by a division into North and south below.
If their change of heart causes a collapse, then good for them.
There are a lot of people who have done themselves huge credit here, ranging from shearer and Wright to James cordon, who I suddenly have a bit more respect for.
That real madrid have emerged as ringleaders is no surprise. Their greed with the Spanish TV rights has led to their league being completely uncompetitive for years and hence even if they and Barcelona cream off most of the loot, their swag bag is still not big enough as an uncompetitive league is not particularly marketable. You would have thought they would have learned.
Football isn't dying. It is dying in Spain, and it is their greed that killed it.
I hope now that the remaining 4 now pisss right off. Roma and lazio can make up the numbers. Losing a couple of mediocre London clubs and the two others that attract glory hunters won't do anywhere near as much damage as losing 6. Rangers and celtic can make up 2 of the places with hibs and the fourth placed club joining the championship followed by a division into North and south below.
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Roma want nothing to do with it, already released a statement.
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Yep it's a tricky one, however if they signed contracts, which according to the RM guy all the clubs did, then that could be seen as joining another competition, but as ever with these things it'll be tough to prove for the PL, and if there's any significant punishments I'll be
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Good. Who is next up? A Turkish side or two, maybe?
And as for their women's competition, how does that work without lyon et al? Man utd women have only just been invented - even if they did beat us 4-0
And as for their women's competition, how does that work without lyon et al? Man utd women have only just been invented - even if they did beat us 4-0
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How much of this has been driven by Yanks who don't understand football? Oh, hang on
I did mean Utd and Liverpool mind
I did mean Utd and Liverpool mind
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That was a big waste of timeChester Perry wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:24 pmreports now that the SLco12 are meeting tonight to shut down
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Chelsea, City, United, Arsenal, Athletico and Barca all out. Crumbling faster than my apple crumble took to bake on Sunday.
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Smoke and mirrors possibly, I don’t know.
I believe tho that the clubs pulling out will try to have us all believe they didn’t really want to be involved in the first place.
We aren’t being told the whole story, and I doubt we we ever will.
I believe tho that the clubs pulling out will try to have us all believe they didn’t really want to be involved in the first place.
We aren’t being told the whole story, and I doubt we we ever will.
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Whilst it does look like your right.Awayfromburnley wrote: ↑Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:35 pmAnyone still doubting me?
Champions League changes approved yesterday without a noise.
We're being played.
Two execs have effectively made themselves redundant.
They have signed contracts which will cost them.
They now have legal costs to pay.
This will have cost those clubs a lot of money.
I believe this was a genuine attempt to start a new league.
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if the reports are true