Summer 2021 Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[Conroysleftfoot]

Atletico signing Cunha from Hertha for 30 million euros.

Could they come back in for Cornet now?

Not good news

[fatboy47]

Fine lines.

Its about making money and servicing debt now, and it could be argued that the best way to maximise the profit is to invest just enough cash to finish 17th.

18th probably brings oblivion to a small debt-laden outfit like us.
16th and above may bring a few smiles but would be unlikely to repay the amount of investment required to achieve same.

So a bunch of grafters grinding out 17th probably suits all parties.

[boatshed bill]

When you think of the calibre of player we have been linked with this summer (Cornet, Young - both playing in the CL last season), we’re clearly looking levels above where we have before. I wouldn’t want the fear missing out to deter us from being more ambitious.

I had a look in Harrods once, still shop at Sainsbury's though

[dibraidio]

No mention of Cornet in the French press overnight. L'equipe saying that Shaqiri is due to arrive in Lyon for his medical today. They're saying that Lyon have agreed to pay 6m euros plus add ons which could take it up to the 11m reported by the Times. No mention of this or the loan signing of Emerson from Chelsea having any impact on Cornet's potential transfer BUT it's a clear sign that they're planning for a future without him.

[Woodleyclaret]

Perhaps it's time for us to plan without Cornet

[randomclaret2]

I had a look in Harrods once, still shop at Sainsbury's though

We've been shopping in the reduced section of Lidl for the last 2 or 3 years

[MACCA]

We've been shopping in the reduced section of Lidl for the last 2 or 3 years

By reduced are you politely just saying out of date and/or damaged...

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

Cunha deal has been on the cards all window. I cant see them matching 15 million when they only got 26 million upfront.

On a five year deal the Cornet will cost 28 million.

Cunha is also more of a striker.

I think their bid was made knowing Cunha was going.

[Iloveyoubrady]

Cunha deal has been on the cards all window. I cant see them matching 15 million when they only got 26 million upfront.

On a five year deal the Cornet will cost 28 million.

Cunha is also more of a striker.

I think their bid was made knowing Cunha was going.

Let’s hope so. There is an air of confidence around the club about getting cornet done, but we just want to see him with the shirt!!!

[Rowls]

I hope we don’t got the cheep option of precontract/January option

We need players in now not wait until the next window

A pre-contract deal could be a fantastic bargaining chip to bring the price down.

[JonBerro]

So what would /10 be this window:

Cornet
Collins
Lennon
Hennessey

For me it’s an 8 - think as a fan base we under rate the success of keeping Pope, McNeil, Tarks and wood for another season, especially with talks of a new contract for Pope
Feel like bringing 2 wingers in, especially cornet who for me comes straight into the team means at every position, we have two first team players. Let’s hoping we can get it done

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

So what would /10 be this window:

Cornet
Collins
Lennon
Hennessey

For me it’s an 8 - think as a fan base we under rate the success of keeping Pope, McNeil, Tarks and wood for another season, especially with talks of a new contract for Pope
Feel like bringing 2 wingers in, especially cornet who for me comes straight into the team means at every position, we have two first team players. Let’s hoping we can get it done

A central midfielder as well as the above would be an excellent window.

[Rowls]

When you think of the calibre of player we have been linked with this summer (Cornet, Young - both playing in the CL last season), we’re clearly looking levels above where we have before. I wouldn’t want the fear missing out to deter us from being more ambitious.

This is exactly what our policy has been ever since Dyche came in.

Even when we signed Michael Kightly it was a step up on the kind of player we were used to being linked with.

[Conroy92]

So what would /10 be this window:

Cornet
Collins
Lennon
Hennessey

For me it’s an 8 - think as a fan base we under rate the success of keeping Pope, McNeil, Tarks and wood for another season, especially with talks of a new contract for Pope
Feel like bringing 2 wingers in, especially cornet who for me comes straight into the team means at every position, we have two first team players. Let’s hoping we can get it done

A 7 for me. Add one of Christie or Hughes to that list and it's an 8/9.

[randomclaret2]

So what would /10 be this window:

Cornet
Collins
Lennon
Hennessey

For me it’s an 8 - think as a fan base we under rate the success of keeping Pope, McNeil, Tarks and wood for another season, especially with talks of a new contract for Pope
Feel like bringing 2 wingers in, especially cornet who for me comes straight into the team means at every position, we have two first team players. Let’s hoping we can get it done

Adding 1 potential starter and 3 squad players wouldnt be worth an 8/10 for me

[Iloveyoubrady]

Rumour is that Hertha a chasing some striker called Belfodil so hopefully cornet will be left for us..!

[JonBerro]

Adding 1 potential starter and 3 squad players wouldnt be worth an 8/10 for me

Agree I might be being optimistic but I think the way Pace has gone around things has been positive (all depending really if we bring Cornet in)
Getting rid of Hart and Rigg, targeting better players, keeping hold of our assets, and as interviews with the owner and Dyche are to be seen, confidence over a deal is high

Would agree that maybe we need a central midfielder. Such an odd one selling Benson imo - Barnsley’s fans raving about him - think he would have been a suitable backup

[randomclaret2]

Agree I might be being optimistic but I think the way Pace has gone around things has been positive (all depending really if we bring Cornet in)
Getting rid of Hart and Rigg, targeting better players, keeping hold of our assets, and as interviews with the owner and Dyche are to be seen, confidence over a deal is high

Would agree that maybe we need a central midfielder. Such an odd one selling Benson imo - Barnsley’s fans raving about him - think he would have been a suitable backup

We'll know in just over 8 days time...

[HahaYeah]

Belfodil transfer to Hertha. €500,000.

https://bulinews.com/news/9701/report-h ... hoffenheim

[boatshed bill]

Agree I might be being optimistic but I think the way Pace has gone around things has been positive (all depending really if we bring Cornet in)
Getting rid of Hart and Rigg, targeting better players, keeping hold of our assets, and as interviews with the owner and Dyche are to be seen, confidence over a deal is high

Would agree that maybe we need a central midfielder. Such an odd one selling Benson imo - Barnsley’s fans raving about him - think he would have been a suitable backup

Hard to believe the club prefers Stephens over Benson.

[JonBerro]

Hard to believe the club prefers Stephens over Benson.

Worse window in recent history than bringing just Stephens in ?

[Woodleyclaret]

Re Benson did you ever see him play.Way out of his depth in the Premier league
Ok in lower league good luck to him theres no shame in playing in a lower league, ask Scottie Arfield

[Iloveyoubrady]

Worse window in recent history than bringing just Stephens in ?

No... We could have spent 1M on a young (slightly) promising league 1 midfielder who would offer the same level and at least some potential to recoup the cash...

[Rileybobs]

No... We could have spent 1M on a young (slightly) promising league 1 midfielder who would offer the same level and at least some potential to recoup the cash...

…but wouldn’t have been ready to step into the team should one of our first choice midfielders picked up an injury or suspension.

[Iloveyoubrady]

…but wouldn’t have been ready to step into the team should one of our first choice midfielders picked up an injury or suspension.

Neither is stephens...
What I mean is we could have got a young player with the same ability as stephens for not very much at all.

[Rileybobs]

Neither is stephens...
What I mean is we could have got a young player with the same ability as stephens for not very much at all.

You’re talking rubbish. Dale Stephens has over 100 Premier League appearance.

[Stevie Morgan]

…but wouldn’t have been ready to step into the team should one of our first choice midfielders picked up an injury or suspension.

And Stephens was?

[wilks_bfc]

A pre-contract deal could be a fantastic bargaining chip to bring the price down.

It would be if we didn’t need to him now

[Rileybobs]

And Stephens was?

Considering he'd made 33 appearances for Brighton in the previous season then the answer is unequivocally yes.

[Iloveyoubrady]

You’re talking rubbish. Dale Stephens has over 100 Premier League appearance.

Maybe I am - stephens is a good experienced pro. But the level of performance he gives us now at his age is no better than what even bensons was.

I just think stephens never fit in our team here. He was a good player, so has some technical ability, but he’s not got the legs to press in our system. He looks like an old man. He is alright in a midfield 5 but in our 442 he looks lost.

[Stevie Morgan]

Considering he'd made 33 appearances for Brighton in the previous season then the answer is unequivocally yes.

Considering the level of performance he delivered, when available, I would beg to differ.

[Rileybobs]

Maybe I am - stephens is a good experienced pro. But the level of performance he gives us now at his age is no better than what even bensons was.

I just think stephens never fit in our team here. He was a good player, so has some technical ability, but he’s not got the legs to press in our system. He looks like an old man. He is alright in a midfield 5 but in our 442 he looks lost.

Maybe he doesn't, but he wasn't exactly given enough minutes last season to reach that conclusion. Clearly Stephens isn't one for the future, and I don't think that he was signed with the intention of featuring much for us. But for a reported £1m we signed a player with a good amount of Premier League experience who Dyche has obviously rated for some time. The idea that we could have picked up a player from League 1 who was as 'oven ready' to step into a Premier League game immediately, for the same fee, is frankly the stuff of fantasies.

[Lancasterclaret]

Maybe he doesn't, but he wasn't exactly given enough minutes last season to reach that conclusion. Clearly Stephens isn't one for the future, and I don't think that he was signed with the intention of featuring much for us. But for a reported £1m we signed a player with a good amount of Premier League experience who Dyche has obviously rated for some time. The idea that we could have picked up a player from League 1 who was as 'oven ready' to step into a Premier League game immediately, for the same fee, is frankly the stuff of fantasies.

Just replace "fantasies" with "football manager" and you've got it

[Iloveyoubrady]

Do you really think stephens was that good on the pitch that we simply couldn’t. Benson for one cost Barnsley £1M and he was way better than stephens last season when they played. Yes stephens cost 1M because he offers experience and a good character, but you could well buy a young player just as good for the same price.

[boatshed bill]

Worse window in recent history than bringing just Stephens in ?

I can see why they brought him in at the time they did.
I am just surprised that, with Stephens out injured, we ler the promising Benson go with so little midfield back-up.

[Rileybobs]

Do you really think stephens was that good on the pitch that we simply couldn’t. Benson for one cost Barnsley £1M and he was way better than stephens last season when they played. Yes stephens cost 1M because he offers experience and a good character, but you could well buy a young player just as good for the same price.

I don't agree that Benson was way better than Stephens.

As I said, if you think we could have bought a young Premier League-ready player for £1m then you're living in cloud cuckoo land.

[beddie]

I thought Stephens was an awful buy, I know Dyche had tried to bring him in a season or two earlier but in between he got injured and couldn’t get in the Brighton team. I still believe it was a desperate buy having lost Hendrick. Too much reliance on how he used to play.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Watford observer is saying Burnley and Palace have had bids turned down for Hughes

Palace are the front runners but we are still in the chase

[Iloveyoubrady]

I don't agree that Benson was way better than Stephens.

As I said, if you think we could have bought a young Premier League-ready player for £1m then you're living in cloud cuckoo land.

Fair enough if you thought stephens was good. Also - your in cloud cuckoo land if you think Dale stephens was a “Premier League ready player.” His legs have gone and he was terrible last season when he played.

You can’t bring in a premier league ready player for £1M full stop, so get that idea out of your head. I simply said we could have bought a midfielder at a decent age for the same price who would be better. Not saying they would be good, just better than stephens. That is due to the premium you pay for premier league experience.

[Rileybobs]

Fair enough if you thought stephens was good. Also - your in cloud cuckoo land if you think Dale stephens was a “Premier League ready player.” His legs have gone and he was terrible last season when he played.

You can’t bring in a premier league ready player for £1M full stop, so get that idea out of your head. I simply said we could have bought a midfielder at a decent age for the same price who would be better. Not saying they would be good, just better than stephens. That is due to the premium you pay for premier league experience.

I didn't say Stephens was good. Why is it impossible to have a discussion on here without people resorting to lies or strawmen arguments?

Stephens was obviously Premier League ready. He had made 33 appearances for Brighton the season before. His legs haven't 'gone'.

[claretonthecoast1882]

I didn't say Stephens was good. Why is it impossible to have a discussion on here without people resorting to lies or strawmen arguments?

Stephens was obviously Premier League ready. He had made 33 appearances for Brighton the season before. His legs haven't 'gone'.

Glad you explained as I thought I had misunderstood you, seen as others were stating something you hadn't said.

[WiscoClaret]

Adding 1 potential starter and 3 squad players wouldnt be worth an 8/10 for me

I think he was asking what you would rate it...not if you agreed with his rating. I could be wrong!

[randomclaret2]

6.5/10

[jojomk1]

We always talk up that the club do their homework on players before putting in offers
But let's face it, the players do the same thing about wanting to do their due diligence on any potential new club
We will always be one of the teams in the mix for relegation and for a player used to Champions League football this will be an important decision
Just because we have agreed a fee with his parent club does not mean we can offer what he wants - and that may not be just wages!

Shaqiri to Lyon is supposedly a done deal but is that to replace Cornet

[Jakubclaret]

Maybe he doesn't, but he wasn't exactly given enough minutes last season to reach that conclusion. Clearly Stephens isn't one for the future, and I don't think that he was signed with the intention of featuring much for us. But for a reported £1m we signed a player with a good amount of Premier League experience who Dyche has obviously rated for some time. The idea that we could have picked up a player from League 1 who was as 'oven ready' to step into a Premier League game immediately, for the same fee, is frankly the stuff of fantasies.

He did rate him for some time but we never signed him at the peak when he did probably rate him, by the time we got him over the line the earlier form which once had impressed had well & truly diminished to where we are currently.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Fair enough if you thought stephens was good. Also - your in cloud cuckoo land if you think Dale stephens was a “Premier League ready player.” His legs have gone and he was terrible last season when he played.

You can’t bring in a premier league ready player for £1M full stop, so get that idea out of your head. I simply said we could have bought a midfielder at a decent age for the same price who would be better. Not saying they would be good, just better than stephens. That is due to the premium you pay for premier league experience.

JBG, £1 million from Charlton I believe and made 20 PL appearances in his first season with us.

Does that count as a PL ready player for £1 million?

[Spijed]

Shaqiri to Lyon is supposedly a done deal but is that to replace Cornet

Since they've signed Emerson as well it's clearly obvious that Cornet isn't in their plans.

[Quicknick]

JBG, £1 million from Charlton I believe and made 20 PL appearances in his first season with us.

Does that count as a PL ready player for £1 million?

Wasn't he three million?

[BurnleyFC]

Wasn't he three million?

Supposedly £2.5m….


….five years ago.

[Quicknick]

Pope was one million, wasn't he?