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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Hipper » Fri May 28, 2021 5:12 pm

superdimitri wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 3:17 pm
Not sure I agree. Another club to prove he can do it but still with similar restraints to us. I'd see the likes of Leicester and Aston Villa as stepping stones. Not Crystal Palace. If he does well their it's not really showing he can manage top players and I don't think it will make a top club any more likely to come in for him.

If their club were in a different situation then perhaps. Just like us they've been a victim to other clubs spending a lot more, including some newly promoted clubs. With a big rebuilding job Dyche will know that it's hard to develop team rapport.

I think he'll know it's risky and won't go unless he's very disappointed by his transfer and wage budget here. If he does go I think it's a very bad sign because it shows he's not confident we have enough money to spend.
Dyche has shown for half a season what he and his coaching staff can do with a bunch of mediocre Premier League players plus two that are a bit superior, Defour and Brady.

To my mind he has more opportunity at practically any other Premier League club, including Palace, to do that then he has had at Burnley since then. Whether Pace and co can offer him that chance again is what I'm interested to see.

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by ian » Fri May 28, 2021 5:13 pm

Little_britton wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 11:42 am
I agree and I don't think we'd be in the Premier league furlong if it was to happen...
I'll stick my neck out and say you'd go to any length to insert racing related puns!

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Bosscat » Fri May 28, 2021 5:20 pm

ian wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 5:13 pm
I'll stick my neck out and say you'd go to any length to insert racing related puns!
Please don't saddle us with those 🙄

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Volvoclaret » Fri May 28, 2021 5:51 pm

We should go flat out and jump through hoops to keep him.

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Targetman » Fri May 28, 2021 5:55 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
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Villa would be a perfect next step for McNiel. Hopefully its a load of nonsense but Nixon does tend to know his onions and gets a hell of a lot right with these kind of storys
Course he does! 😁

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Post by Volvoclaret » Fri May 28, 2021 6:00 pm

Did Nixon get it from the horses mouth?
That's it, last one promise. 😉
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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Fri May 28, 2021 6:07 pm

Knowing the way Sean likes to send “messages” it is likely that only he and his agent know his intentions. If he can wrangle a payrise out of this (in the post Covid era where wages are set to dive), and if he can secure promises to spend ‘x’ on players, that would be an incredible piece of negotiation.

He may like Palace, but it can be a revolving door, better than some, but 16th in February is likely to make the board have an itchy trigger finger, let alone 20th. A big risk of enforced early retirement at this level given he is already financially secure for life.

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri May 28, 2021 6:15 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 6:07 pm
Knowing the way Sean likes to send “messages” it is likely that only he and his agent know his intentions. If he can wrangle a payrise out of this (in the post Covid era where wages are set to dive), and if he can secure promises to spend ‘x’ on players, that would be an incredible piece of negotiation.

He may like Palace, but it can be a revolving door, better than some, but 16th in February is likely to make the board have an itchy trigger finger, let alone 20th. A big risk of enforced early retirement at this level given he is already financially secure for life.
I dont think Dyche has an agent. Dyche seems capable of managing his own affairs and being the good and honest character he is I wouldn't expect him to allow a money grabbing parasite to be involved on his behalf.

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Bosscat » Fri May 28, 2021 6:19 pm

Volvoclaret wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 6:00 pm
Did Nixon get it from the horses mouth?
That's it, last one promise. 😉
They need reining in
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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri May 28, 2021 6:19 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 6:07 pm
Knowing the way Sean likes to send “messages” it is likely that only he and his agent know his intentions. If he can wrangle a payrise out of this (in the post Covid era where wages are set to dive), and if he can secure promises to spend ‘x’ on players, that would be an incredible piece of negotiation.

He may like Palace, but it can be a revolving door, better than some, but 16th in February is likely to make the board have an itchy trigger finger, let alone 20th. A big risk of enforced early retirement at this level given he is already financially secure for life.
I thought the revolving door comment was harsh on Palace until I looked at their managerial history :shock:

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Volvoclaret » Fri May 28, 2021 8:39 pm

Keeping him should be a cinch.
Ok I lied.

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Pstotto » Fri May 28, 2021 8:52 pm

Crystal Palace doesn't come with a Designated Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty and beers to boot and it's deep in Saaaflaaandan and the players have more stuff to contend with, so more job interference.

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Chester Perry » Sat May 29, 2021 2:11 am

some interesting numbers in the Mail as to Dyche's contract - pretty sure this is very different to what has been previously reported about his deal

AHEAD OF THE GAME: Sean Dyche's switch from Burnley to Crystal Palace hits hitch over £20m compensation bill needed to prise manager away
Burnley boss Sean Dyche is one of Crystal Palace's choices for their new coach
It would cost the Eagles £20m in compensation to prise away manager Dyche
Swansea boss Steve Cooper, Frank Lampard and Chris Wilder are also targets
By MATT HUGHES FOR THE DAILY MAIL

PUBLISHED: 22:33, 28 May 2021 | UPDATED: 22:33, 28 May 2021

Crystal Palace’s pursuit of Sean Dyche as their next manager is being held up by the huge expense of the proposed deal, which, in addition to the £3million in compensation due to Burnley, could end up costing them £7m-a-year in wages and salary.

Dyche’s contract at Burnley included a £3m survival bonus for keeping the club in the Premier League and he would expect the same deal at Palace, which would take the potential cost of a three-year contract at Selhurst Park above £20m.

Palace are considering other options as a result and will have a close eye on Saturday’s Championship play-off final between Swansea and Brentford, as the Welsh club’s manager Steve Cooper is another contender.

Frank Lampard and Chris Wilder are also on Palace’s shortlist, which would be more straightforward appointments as both are available after leaving Chelsea and Sheffield United respectively earlier in the season.

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Post by dermotdermot » Sat May 29, 2021 4:09 am

Good post. I shall sleep soundly now.

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Quicknick » Sat May 29, 2021 6:09 am

Chester Perry wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 2:11 am
some interesting numbers in the Mail as to Dyche's contract - pretty sure this is very different to what has been previously reported about his deal

AHEAD OF THE GAME: Sean Dyche's switch from Burnley to Crystal Palace hits hitch over £20m compensation bill needed to prise manager away
Burnley boss Sean Dyche is one of Crystal Palace's choices for their new coach
It would cost the Eagles £20m in compensation to prise away manager Dyche
Swansea boss Steve Cooper, Frank Lampard and Chris Wilder are also targets
By MATT HUGHES FOR THE DAILY MAIL

PUBLISHED: 22:33, 28 May 2021 | UPDATED: 22:33, 28 May 2021

Crystal Palace’s pursuit of Sean Dyche as their next manager is being held up by the huge expense of the proposed deal, which, in addition to the £3million in compensation due to Burnley, could end up costing them £7m-a-year in wages and salary.

Dyche’s contract at Burnley included a £3m survival bonus for keeping the club in the Premier League and he would expect the same deal at Palace, which would take the potential cost of a three-year contract at Selhurst Park above £20m.

Palace are considering other options as a result and will have a close eye on Saturday’s Championship play-off final between Swansea and Brentford, as the Welsh club’s manager Steve Cooper is another contender.

Frank Lampard and Chris Wilder are also on Palace’s shortlist, which would be more straightforward appointments as both are available after leaving Chelsea and Sheffield United respectively earlier in the season.
Best post on here. Fingers crossed.

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Post by Cubanclaret » Sat May 29, 2021 6:25 am

Looks like the previous Board did learn for the debacle surrounding Owen Coyle’s sideways move to Bolton :lol:

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Post by jtv » Sat May 29, 2021 6:29 am

Perhaps those figures will convince the ones who are always asking what happened to the 500million Premier league money that a substantial part of it has gone out as wages and bonuses to players and staff!

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Post by taio » Sat May 29, 2021 6:44 am

Chester Perry wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 2:11 am
some interesting numbers in the Mail as to Dyche's contract - pretty sure this is very different to what has been previously reported about his deal

AHEAD OF THE GAME: Sean Dyche's switch from Burnley to Crystal Palace hits hitch over £20m compensation bill needed to prise manager away
Burnley boss Sean Dyche is one of Crystal Palace's choices for their new coach
It would cost the Eagles £20m in compensation to prise away manager Dyche
Swansea boss Steve Cooper, Frank Lampard and Chris Wilder are also targets
By MATT HUGHES FOR THE DAILY MAIL

PUBLISHED: 22:33, 28 May 2021 | UPDATED: 22:33, 28 May 2021

Crystal Palace’s pursuit of Sean Dyche as their next manager is being held up by the huge expense of the proposed deal, which, in addition to the £3million in compensation due to Burnley, could end up costing them £7m-a-year in wages and salary.

Dyche’s contract at Burnley included a £3m survival bonus for keeping the club in the Premier League and he would expect the same deal at Palace, which would take the potential cost of a three-year contract at Selhurst Park above £20m.

Palace are considering other options as a result and will have a close eye on Saturday’s Championship play-off final between Swansea and Brentford, as the Welsh club’s manager Steve Cooper is another contender.

Frank Lampard and Chris Wilder are also on Palace’s shortlist, which would be more straightforward appointments as both are available after leaving Chelsea and Sheffield United respectively earlier in the season.
Don't known if I misread this but it appears misleading not least because within the headlines it refers to £20m compensation but then says the compensation due to Burnley would be £3m which sounds right given his current contract.

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by claretandy » Sat May 29, 2021 6:59 am

Chester Perry wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 2:11 am
some interesting numbers in the Mail as to Dyche's contract - pretty sure this is very different to what has been previously reported about his deal

AHEAD OF THE GAME: Sean Dyche's switch from Burnley to Crystal Palace hits hitch over £20m compensation bill needed to prise manager away
Burnley boss Sean Dyche is one of Crystal Palace's choices for their new coach
It would cost the Eagles £20m in compensation to prise away manager Dyche
Swansea boss Steve Cooper, Frank Lampard and Chris Wilder are also targets
By MATT HUGHES FOR THE DAILY MAIL

PUBLISHED: 22:33, 28 May 2021 | UPDATED: 22:33, 28 May 2021

Crystal Palace’s pursuit of Sean Dyche as their next manager is being held up by the huge expense of the proposed deal, which, in addition to the £3million in compensation due to Burnley, could end up costing them £7m-a-year in wages and salary.

Dyche’s contract at Burnley included a £3m survival bonus for keeping the club in the Premier League and he would expect the same deal at Palace, which would take the potential cost of a three-year contract at Selhurst Park above £20m.

Palace are considering other options as a result and will have a close eye on Saturday’s Championship play-off final between Swansea and Brentford, as the Welsh club’s manager Steve Cooper is another contender.

Frank Lampard and Chris Wilder are also on Palace’s shortlist, which would be more straightforward appointments as both are available after leaving Chelsea and Sheffield United respectively earlier in the season.
I thought that it was common knowledge that SD gets a 3m bonus for stopping up ?

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by jedi_master » Sat May 29, 2021 7:07 am

Worrying that it’s now hitting papers rather than dubious websites?

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat May 29, 2021 7:12 am

Volvoclaret wrote:
Fri May 28, 2021 6:00 pm
Did Nixon get it from the horses mouth?
That's it, last one promise. 😉
Owen Coyle ?
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Post by beddie » Sat May 29, 2021 7:22 am

Would that amount really stop them getting him if he’s there top target, I’m not sure it would. I certainly don’t want him to leave but on the flip side it feels wrong for him not to be given the opportunity if it’s something he really wants. I certainly wouldn’t want an unhappy Manager.

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Post by claretandy » Sat May 29, 2021 7:25 am

jedi_master wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 7:07 am
Worrying that it’s now hitting papers rather than dubious websites?
I think Nixon has done a piece on it before, that's where i saw it.

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Post by Local cricketer » Sat May 29, 2021 7:30 am

Just think what we could do with that 7 million off the wage bill though

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Post by taio » Sat May 29, 2021 7:50 am

Local cricketer wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 7:30 am
Just think what we could do with that 7 million off the wage bill though
We'd struggle without a manager - false economy :D

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Post by tiger76 » Sat May 29, 2021 9:46 am

jtv wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 6:29 am
Perhaps those figures will convince the ones who are always asking what happened to the 500million Premier league money that a substantial part of it has gone out as wages and bonuses to players and staff!
Doubt it the moaners will still be asking why we're not spending £20/30m on player x or y, not understanding that if you sign said player at such a fee he will command a large salary and all the other additional costs being in the PL entails.

Hence why we could do with getting the wage bill down, Brady off the books in a couple of months is a start, as is Gibson going to Norwich, but of course we'll somehow need to source replacements well trying to run a tight ship, it's not easy overseeing a PL club with all the money floating around in the modern era.

Turning to the topic at hand Sean's contract, he is probably the one person we can ill afford to lose, players we can replace not easily but it can be done, finding a replacement for SD is another matter entirely, therefore if he's looking for a salary increase we should stretch the budget as much as we can to keep him happy.

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Post by bfcjg » Sat May 29, 2021 10:06 am

If he goes he goes, somebody posted earlier that change can be a good thing, who knows a more fluent style of play with a better resourced manager might actually be what ALK want to promote our brand.

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by DCWat » Sat May 29, 2021 10:08 am

bfcjg wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 10:06 am
If he goes he goes, somebody posted earlier that change can be a good thing, who knows a more fluent style of play with a better resourced manager might actually be what ALK want to promote our brand.
That would contradict was Pace has said about Dyche.

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Post by bfcjg » Sat May 29, 2021 10:14 am

DCWat wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 10:08 am
That would contradict was Pace has said about Dyche.
I agree it would, however Pace is just the front man, one thing is for sure though it's risky attempting to take on the Americans at hardball if that's the aim of Dyche and his advisors .

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Post by Selby Claret » Sat May 29, 2021 10:48 am

Howes available....

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Post by COBBLE » Sat May 29, 2021 10:58 am

If SD stays I only want it to be because this is where he really wants to be. We have seen the sulky side of him and no thanks, we do not need anyone doing us a favour. There are other managers out there who would come in with enthusiasm and knowledge and ALK will have a list.
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Post by dandeclaret » Sat May 29, 2021 11:04 am

Enthusiasm is hardly a key skill is it? Otherwise we’d just appoint a Labrador as assistant manager.

Don’t under estimate the impact this manager has had, and just how difficult it will be to go forward, or even stand still when he leaves.
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Post by SalouClaret » Sat May 29, 2021 11:14 am

dandeclaret wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 11:04 am
Enthusiasm is hardly a key skill is it? Otherwise we’d just appoint a Labrador as assistant manager.

Don’t under estimate the impact this manager has had, and just how difficult it will be to go forward, or even stand still when he leaves.

Spot on.

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Post by duncandisorderly » Sat May 29, 2021 11:14 am

dandeclaret wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 11:04 am
Enthusiasm is hardly a key skill is it? Otherwise we’d just appoint a Labrador as assistant manager.
That'd be great. Make a good ball boy, probably.

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat May 29, 2021 11:20 am

I’m sure a Labrador could hold that piece of paper Woan has that says:-

Striker > Striker 85 mins

Winger > Winger 89 mins

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Falcon » Sat May 29, 2021 11:21 am

I reckon the Labrador should be given a chance to be honest.

We already have great pedigree for our dogged determination in hounding defences when let off the leash.
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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat May 29, 2021 11:24 am

It should be a whippet, not a labrador.

Northern club, needs to fit in with the clichés

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Post by Spijed » Sat May 29, 2021 11:32 am

COBBLE wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 10:58 am
If SD stays I only want it to be because this is where he really wants to be. We have seen the sulky side of him and no thanks, we do not need anyone doing us a favour. There are other managers out there who would come in with enthusiasm and knowledge and ALK will have a list.
I suspect you, like many others, will be in for a nasty shock if you think it's straightforward to replicate what we currently have.

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Post by dougcollins » Sat May 29, 2021 11:56 am

If Dyche had a 3M PL 'survival bonus' it's no wonder we're sh1te in the cups.
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Post by Rileybobs » Sat May 29, 2021 12:11 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 11:56 am
If Dyche had a 3M PL 'survival bonus' it's no wonder we're sh1te in the cups.
It may have something to do with the club having a couple of hundred million staying up bonus.
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Post by Spijed » Sat May 29, 2021 1:12 pm

You'd have thought that if Crystal palace were serious about appointing SD then they would have made a formal approach to BFC to speak to him. Considering they haven't done so yet means they aren't too bothered at the moment.

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Post by boatshed bill » Sat May 29, 2021 1:18 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 1:12 pm
You'd have thought that if Crystal palace were serious about appointing SD then they would have made a formal approach to BFC to speak to him. Considering they haven't done so yet means they aren't too bothered at the moment.
Palace's lack of funds is a bit of a handicap.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat May 29, 2021 1:25 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 1:12 pm
You'd have thought that if Crystal palace were serious about appointing SD then they would have made a formal approach to BFC to speak to him. Considering they haven't done so yet means they aren't too bothered at the moment.
How do you know they have or haven’t?

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat May 29, 2021 4:30 pm

Can't see them going for the Swansea manager after today
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Post by jtv » Sat May 29, 2021 4:58 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 4:30 pm
Can't see them going for the Swansea manager after today
Why?

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Post by Woonderbah » Sat May 29, 2021 5:08 pm

Surprised no-one's taking a look at the Barnsley manager.. just missed out but he's had a great season taking them from threatened relegation to the play-offs

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat May 29, 2021 5:13 pm

jtv wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 4:58 pm
Why?
really ? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Changed his tactics, got it horribly wrong. Swansea were diabolical, offered nothing at all.

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Pearcey » Sat May 29, 2021 5:18 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 5:13 pm
really ? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Changed his tactics, got it horribly wrong. Swansea were diabolical, offered nothing at all.
Pretty sure Palace would’ve done their homework on Cooper. One poor game wouldn’t change anything. Swansea have had a good season.

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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by jtv » Sat May 29, 2021 5:19 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 5:13 pm
really ? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Changed his tactics, got it horribly wrong. Swansea were diabolical, offered nothing at all.
I didn't watch the game so it was a genuine question :) Thanks for filling me in
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Re: Crystal Palace contact Burnley over Dyche compensation fee

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat May 29, 2021 5:22 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 5:18 pm
Pretty sure Palace would’ve done their homework on Cooper. One poor game wouldn’t change anything. Swansea have had a good season.
I'm sure they have, probably noticed how many last minute goals they conceded all season and then in the biggest game he royally screwed his side. I get what you are saying but I'd be amazed if they pursue him - I hope they do !

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