John pepper Mike rigg

[Stan8]

Been informed they have left the club wks ago , why have club not announced it ?

[rob63]

Thought Pepper had done a decent job

[warksclaret]

What was John Peppers role and position, and was he generally considered to have made a good contribution to BFC

[ClaretTony]

Been informed they have left the club wks ago , why have club not announced it ?

Was told the same and from a very reliable source but nothing reported as yet.

[ClaretTony]

What was John Peppers role and position, and was he generally considered to have made a good contribution to BFC

Academy manager - arrived autumn 2016 and found a seriously under achieving Cat 3 academy - we are now Cat 1. He's certainly done a good job in that respect but maybe having got us there his role is no longer required. He arrived at Burnley from the company that did the EPPP audits.

[Quickenthetempo]

This scouting app can replace both.

[Rileybobs]

Thought Pepper had done a decent job

No longer required now the seasoning has come to an end.

[DycheAlmighty]

FYI - on Pepper's contributions...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcphxlJq2uY&t=349s

[BurnleyPaul]

Neither of their LinkdIn profiles show them having left us....

[Quickenthetempo]

Academy manager - arrived autumn 2016 and found a seriously under achieving Cat 3 academy - we are now Cat 1. He's certainly done a good job in that respect but maybe having got us there his role is no longer required. He arrived at Burnley from the company that did the EPPP audits.

You have to say it was a master stroke, whoever made the decision to bring him in.

[ClaretTony]

You have to say it was a master stroke, whoever made the decision to bring him in.

Dave Baldwin

[Chester Perry]

This was first suggested about Rigg on the Neil Hart Departs thread and again on the one about Paul Jenkins, which was the first to include Pepper in the discussion about people leaving

[NewClaret]

Presumably both roles require replacements? Hoping there’s a plan to do so...

[ewanrob]

Hard to comment on Mike Rigg, think he was given an impossible job. MG appearing not prepared to back SD with decent money, and SD apparently not happy with players forced upon him and his own player sold without his blessing.

[bf2k]

...and his own player sold without his blessing.

Who was this?

[ewanrob]

Who was this?

Should have said players....referring to the Tarkowski Leicester thing in the summer...think I read on here that he was at their training ground...but he SD blocked the move.....might be wrong.

[Sproggy]

I thought Mike Rigg was having quite a good transfer window compared to the last few.

[Longsidelenny1882]

Dr Pepper was brought in to get us cat 1 I herd football wise he is very limited utc

[Nonayforever]

Presumably both roles require replacements? Hoping there’s a plan to do so...

Dyche to take over both roles in his quest to keep a grip on things

[Burnley1989]

Likely both will be on gardening leave so it wouldn’t be announced until they officially left

[ClaretTony]

Likely both will be on gardening leave so it wouldn’t be announced until they officially left

I think that’s very likely the case

[gandhisflipflop]

I wonder if the new chairman saw in the last transfer window the capabilities of Mike Rigg and thought “this needs to change”

[superdimitri]

Best news of the summer break Rigg leaving. Commiserations to Pepper, who has clearly done a decent job.

[mill hill claret]

Anyone know if dave Baldwin is still in an advisory role ? Or has he moved on

[ClaretTony]

Anyone know if dave Baldwin is still in an advisory role ? Or has he moved on

Dave is still involved

[ClaretTony]

Best news of the summer break Rigg leaving. Commiserations to Pepper, who has clearly done a decent job.

Hasn’t Rigg done a decent job? He’s been heavily involved at academy level.

[warksclaret]

Academy manager - arrived autumn 2016 and found a seriously under achieving Cat 3 academy - we are now Cat 1. He's certainly done a good job in that respect but maybe having got us there his role is no longer required. He arrived at Burnley from the company that did the EPPP audits.

Thank you CT

[ewanrob]

Hasn’t Rigg done a decent job? He’s been heavily involved at academy level.

Was that his brief Tony

[ClaretTony]

Was that his brief Tony

From what I can recall he had a wide ranging brief that included considerable work with the academy.

[superdimitri]

I know he was 'Technical Director', what responsibilities that involves I'm not entirely sure. But a big part of why he was bought in was to identify transfer targets and lets face it, even you or I could identify the targets he has.

You could argue that he had an impossible job, but I don't think he'd leave if he did a good one.

[ClaretTony]

I know he was 'Technical Director', what responsibilities that involves I'm not entirely sure. But a big part of why he was bought in was to identify transfer targets and lets face it, even you or I could identify the targets he has.

You could argue that he had an impossible job, but I don't think he'd leave if he did a good one.

Was it a big part or just a part?

The new owners I think will make big changes eventually. Already three, as I know, from the non football side have gone and on the football side I don’t believe it will stop at these two.

They are already bringing in other people on a consultancy basis such as Dave Baldwin & Paul Jenkins.

[superdimitri]

Was it a big part or just a part?

The new owners I think will make big changes eventually. Already three, as I know, from the non football side have gone and on the football side I don’t believe it will stop at these two.

They are already bringing in other people on a consultancy basis such as Dave Baldwin & Paul Jenkins.

I don't think anyone knows for certain but since we have no director of football and he's the man who always makes comments in the past surrounding the transfer window my guess is its been his responsibility.

Everyone will have their own opinions, none of us will know for sure but I personally feel like he's been one of the issues with our recruitment together with Garlick.

[IanMcL]

Pepper Rigg?

Damn. My granddaughter loves him!
Pink and has family?

[Vegas Claret]

Hasn’t Rigg done a decent job? He’s been heavily involved at academy level.

CT, any idea how many scouts the club employ and where they are located ?

[Burnley1989]

Pepper Rigg?

Damn. My granddaughter loves him!
Pink and has family?

Tickled me that

[Hendrickxz]

Presumably both roles require replacements? Hoping there’s a plan to do so...

Yep, Sally Salt and Percy Pepper are on their way...

[NewClaret]

Hasn’t Rigg done a decent job? He’s been heavily involved at academy level.

You’d assume so, given that’s the only recruitment we’ve done in recent years

No idea what’s gone on and I’m sure there are plenty of stories. My sense was that he aligned with MG and since he’s out of the picture that probably made his position untenable. Otherwise feel sorry for him as it must’ve been a hard job whilst we’ve not been investing in players.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Is this connected to the bloke who's been advising the owners recently?

[Quickenthetempo]

Is this connected to the bloke who's been advising the owners recently?

You would presume the new owners want their scouting app involved at Burnley as much as possible, to sell around the world.

[ClaretTony]

I don't think anyone knows for certain but since we have no director of football and he's the man who always makes comments in the past surrounding the transfer window my guess is its been his responsibility.

Everyone will have their own opinions, none of us will know for sure but I personally feel like he's been one of the issues with our recruitment together with Garlick.

He is in effect the director of football but the issue with recruitment was clearly the chairman

[GodIsADeeJay81]

You would presume the new owners want their scouting app involved at Burnley as much as possible, to sell around the world.

No, there's another bloke I've read about on here, who's an experienced academy and director of football person I think it was.

[ClaretTony]

No, there's another bloke I've read about on here, who's an experienced academy and director of football person I think it was.

I posted this further up the thread: "They are already bringing in other people on a consultancy basis such as Dave Baldwin & Paul Jenkins."

Paul Jenkins was with Middlesbrough for years and was even with the first team in their last Premier League season after Karanka left.

[Sleeping Cat]

Tough for Rigg. Scouted plenty of players, recommended some and I don't think one was acted upon. His recommendations tended to be the more exotic names we were linked with. Interesting ALK deciding to do it differently when actually Rigg and his methods would probably complement what they want to do.

[randomclaret2]

You’d assume so, given that’s the only recruitment we’ve done in recent years

No idea what’s gone on and I’m sure there are plenty of stories. My sense was that he aligned with MG and since he’s out of the picture that probably made his position untenable. Otherwise feel sorry for him as it must’ve been a hard job whilst we’ve not been investing in players.

Aligning with MG presumably meant signing as few players as possible for as little money as possible

[ClaretTony]

Tough for Rigg. Scouted plenty of players, recommended some and I don't think one was acted upon. His recommendations tended to be the more exotic names we were linked with. Interesting ALK deciding to do it differently when actually Rigg and his methods would probably complement what they want to do.

But it’s fashionable on here to blame Rigg for all the recruitment failings.

[claretcarrot93]

But it’s fashionable on here to blame Rigg for all the recruitment failings.

When somebody is head of recruitment for three years and we sign Dale Stephens and Crouch then I think the criticism is just.

[ClaretTony]

When somebody is head of recruitment for three years and we sign Dale Stephens and Crouch then I think the criticism is just.

He’s not head of recruitment. That’s Martin Hodge. And in any case, when the recruitment team recommend a signing and either Dyche says no or Garlick refuses to pay the fee how can it be their problem?

[Sleeping Cat]

When somebody is head of recruitment for three years and we sign Dale Stephens and Crouch then I think the criticism is just.

Do you think Stephens & Crouch were scouted by and recommended by Rigg's team? Stephens was a long term Dyche target who we had tried to sign twice before & Crouch is a friend of Dyche's. Hardly going to ask Rigg & his team to scout and get their stats.

As mentioned, Rigg was scouting and recommending players beyond the UK borders but they were never acted upon. The ones acted upon were the ones wanted by the manager, so if you want to lay criticism for those signings then you're aiming it at the wrong person.

[KRBFC]

Do you think Stephens & Crouch were scouted by and recommended by Rigg's team? Stephens was a long term Dyche target who we had tried to sign twice before & Crouch is a friend of Dyche's. Hardly going to ask Rigg & his team to scout and get their stats.

As mentioned, Rigg was scouting and recommending players beyond the UK borders but they were never acted upon. The ones acted upon were the ones wanted by the manager, so if you want to lay criticism for those signings then you're aiming it at the wrong person.

Recommend all the players you like, nothing you can really do if the transfer budget just isn't available.

[Bordeauxclaret]

He’s not head of recruitment. That’s Martin Hodge. And in any case, when the recruitment team recommend a signing and either Dyche says no or Garlick refuses to pay the fee how can it be their problem?

Maybe that’s the problem, he’s been scouting Messi, De Bruyne and Salah.