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Tarks & McNeil

Post by nyclaret » Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:28 pm

Are they going to Newcastle in January?

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:33 pm

no

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by summitclaret » Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:34 pm

Seriously?

More likely to be Messi and Van Dyck.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:34 pm

:roll:

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by KRBFC » Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:49 pm

Seems very unlikely the richest club on the planet (by an absolute mile) would want either of those two, Newcastle want to be competing for PL titles.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:52 pm

I’d get Varane and Mbappe.

I bets it’s that easy on Footy Manager.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by nyclaret » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:07 pm

they can’t get the best of the best immediately

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by KRBFC » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:12 pm

nyclaret wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:07 pm
they can’t get the best of the best immediately
Why?

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:21 pm

nyclaret wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:07 pm
they can’t get the best of the best immediately
Probably not the best of the best, however I would argue they could attract practically any player outside of the top 4-5 clubs in world football with the money they can offer

FFP won’t be a problem by the sounds of it. I imagine Saudi airlines will replace there current sponsor with a 100m a season deal

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by DCWat » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:26 pm

I’m bored of the Newcastle takeover already.

Can’t we keep it to the main thread?
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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by taio » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:31 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:12 pm
Why?
Because the best players in the world won't sign for them in January

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:32 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:12 pm
Why?
Need the right manager first.
Bruce isn't that man.

Then they need to start off with better than average players.
They're gonna buy a few duds initially like Robinho.
They may end up with a Kompany or Silva but they're not gonna convince the world's best to rock up at Newcastle just yet unless they pay way over the odds.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by NewClaret » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:34 pm

nyclaret wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:28 pm
Are they going to Newcastle in January?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by KRBFC » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:41 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:32 pm
Need the right manager first.
Bruce isn't that man.

Then they need to start off with better than average players.
They're gonna buy a few duds initially like Robinho.
They may end up with a Kompany or Silva but they're not gonna convince the world's best to rock up at Newcastle just yet unless they pay way over the odds.
I'd be surprised if Bruce lasts another week. I think you're underestimating the wealth, they can sign whoever the feck they want.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:44 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:41 pm
I'd be surprised if Bruce lasts another week. I think you're underestimating the wealth, they can sign whoever the feck they want.
I'm not underestimating the wealth at all thanks.

What do you think Mbappe would want in wages to turn up and sign for Newcastle, when they're so uncompetitive right now?

They all know they won't win anything this year, probably not next year either and no guarantee of European football.

Building a club up takes time, it took City 3 yrs before they were able to win a league title, but they were already splashing cash before the current owners turned up.

You're thinking like it's a game of football manager where you can just throw money at a player and they'll sign....
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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by jrgbfc » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:47 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:32 pm
Need the right manager first.
Bruce isn't that man.

Then they need to start off with better than average players.
They're gonna buy a few duds initially like Robinho.
They may end up with a Kompany or Silva but they're not gonna convince the world's best to rock up at Newcastle just yet unless they pay way over the odds.
Sounds like Bruce will be gone before next week's game.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:54 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:44 pm
I'm not underestimating the wealth at all thanks.

What do you think Mbappe would want in wages to turn up and sign for Newcastle, when they're so uncompetitive right now?

They all know they won't win anything this year, probably not next year either and no guarantee of European football.

Building a club up takes time, it took City 3 yrs before they were able to win a league title, but they were already splashing cash before the current owners turned up.

You're thinking like it's a game of football manager where you can just throw money at a player and they'll sign....
To be fair if Newcastle offered 1m a week to someone like a Neymar it would be interesting to see if it would get turned down.

If I’m honest I can see them going for the Countinho, Bale, Griezman calibre of player in January

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by houseboy » Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:08 pm

Just another Arab owned club buying success. Perhaps they should form a league of their own and leave the rest of us to concentrate on football.
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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by KRBFC » Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:18 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:44 pm


You're thinking like it's a game of football manager where you can just throw money at a player and they'll sign....
Because it kind of is

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:30 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:54 pm
To be fair if Newcastle offered 1m a week to someone like a Neymar it would be interesting to see if it would get turned down.

If I’m honest I can see them going for the Countinho, Bale, Griezman calibre of player in January
Coutinho maybe would go, but he's on stupid wages circa £350k a week.

Bale - ooc next summer, but wages...

All of those sorts of players are on daft money and want European football.

They're not gonna up sticks for the north east just yet.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:32 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:30 pm
Coutinho maybe would go, but he's on stupid wages circa £350k a week.

Bale - ooc next summer, but wages...

All of those sorts of players are on daft money and want European football.

They're not gonna up sticks for the north east just yet.
Do you not think they would for double/triple the wages?

One thing is for certain these owners won’t care about throwing hundreds of millions at players.
Given he wasted over 450m on a fake da Vinci haha

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:34 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:32 pm
Do you not think they would for double/triple the wages?

One thing is for certain these owners won’t care about throwing hundreds of millions at players.
Given he wasted over 450m on a fake da Vinci haha
Many did for China, and even that's turned sour, but here in the PL it's a different kettle of fish.

The PL and City have been fighting in court for a few years now about City's financial doping via their owners.
City are just using technicalities but they're starting to run out of wiggle room.

Newcastle aren't going to get away with it to the same extent.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:35 pm

Also, if you double or triple the wages on offer there's a real chance of ending up with the next Bogarde who just sat at Chelsea not playing but still getting paid.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Peter Loo » Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:36 pm

Bruce to go I expect, whats KK doing these days? :D

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:37 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:44 pm
You're thinking like it's a game of football manager where you can just throw money at a player and they'll sign....
Shocked

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Fri Oct 08, 2021 11:23 pm

The excitement shown on here to the Newcastle takeover by certain posters!

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Oct 08, 2021 11:23 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:41 pm
I'd be surprised if Bruce lasts another week. I think you're underestimating the wealth, they can sign whoever the feck they want.
You sound almost ecstatic at the prospect.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by KRBFC » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:38 am

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 11:23 pm
You sound almost ecstatic at the prospect.
I'm intrigued to see their journey, happy for their fans and as a football fan, the PL has stepped up another gear. This doesn't really effect my team long term, so why can't I be a little excited to see who they buy/how they get to the top?

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by KRBFC » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:39 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:30 pm
Coutinho maybe would go, but he's on stupid wages circa £350k a week.

Bale - ooc next summer, but wages...

All of those sorts of players are on daft money and want European football.

They're not gonna up sticks for the north east just yet.
Money talks.

Bale agreed a deal to sign for a Chinese team last year but he won't sign for Newcastle? why?

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by dermotdermot » Sat Oct 09, 2021 3:11 am

Very rum affair all round.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:58 am

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:39 am
Money talks.

Bale agreed a deal to sign for a Chinese team last year but he won't sign for Newcastle? why?
We don't know what he's going to do yet, he might even retire for all we know.
He may not want to play for another club in the PL, he may end up staying at Real with a new deal.

Multiple possibilities.

I see there are claims that Newcastle have enquired about Martial though....not exactly a world class signing ...

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:59 am

Newcastle really is the frozen North and all the hype about them doing other than staying up,regardless of who is manager is just that,paper talk.What European based stars would want to sign for a club steeped in history of mainly long gone glories?

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:59 am

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:38 am
This doesn't really effect my team long term
Yes it does, we will see another increase in transfer fees and wage demands.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:20 am

I do think talk of Newcastle signing mega stars is a little premature, regardless of their wealth.

There are only so many top players to go round and that is a very competitive market already with clubs that have deep pockets and history both long term and short term already in there!

Throw in the fact that Newcastle really is the frozen north and not as desirable as London and Manchester and I don’t think it will be as straight forward as people think.

Comparisons with China and that Russian team that bought players are fine but how many genuine world starts followed that path? The ones that did were on one last pay day.

I expect that’s where Newcastle will be in the short term, good players topping up their pension pots…..what happens after that, time will tell.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by claretabroad » Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:50 am

I'm looking forward to seeing how the Premier League will tie itself in knots to allow them to break ffp rules. No more than a £150m loss over 3 years? The league and the club will completely ignore it through creative accounting. Perhaps they will have one seat painted golden and charge £200m a year for the season ticket for it.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:52 am

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:38 am
I'm intrigued to see their journey, happy for their fans and as a football fan, the PL has stepped up another gear. This doesn't really effect my team long term, so why can't I be a little excited to see who they buy/how they get to the top?
Absolutely. You're entitled to be as excited as you wish by it. Not too sure what you mean by 'the PL has stepped up another gear' when in a slightly later post you mention even higher transfer fees and higher wage demands. Bit confused by that. My wife of 47 years is a Geordie and is disgusted by what has happened to her club. She refuses to play the Blaydon Races on the piano anymore and has binned my 'Larn yersel Geordie' book. Funny old game.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Andreshotboots » Sat Oct 09, 2021 12:01 pm

Does anybody think the geographical location of Newcastle will stop them from ever being a super power?

Obviously money talks with a lot of players, but the types of lads they will be looking to sign will be multi millionaires already, so would more cash be more of an incentive to them so that they’re not bothered about living in the North East?

Like our players, I’m aware they won’t probably live anywhere near the club, and there are some wonderful areas in the north east of England but I just think the location may prevent players choosing Paris, Madrid, London or even Manchester over the freezing cold north east..

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Post by MACCA » Sat Oct 09, 2021 12:08 pm

houseboy wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:08 pm
Just another Arab owned club buying success. Perhaps they should form a league of their own and leave the rest of us to concentrate on football.
They tried but lots of people cried and got all upset about it.
It wouldn't have bothered me one bit.

It would have been good for English football IMO

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Post by Silkyskills1 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 12:15 pm

I think you have to take into account the IQ of the average Premier League footballer,too. The enigmatic David Ginola grew bored of the area once he'd visited every available outlet in the Metro Centre. Form improved when he moved south to Spurs where he felt the influence of warm South to south-westerlies crossing La Manche.
Then, of course, many years back was the wistful John Trewick, a Geordie himself but then playing for West Bromwich Albion managed by a certain Ron Atkinson. The club were on a visit to China where part of their itinerary was an excursion to the Great Wall of China. Trewick declined the offer preferring to stay in the hotel. When asked why, he replied in a deep, thick Geordie accent, ' Well, when you've seen one wal(wall), you've seen 'em al(all). Decent enough player, though.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Oct 09, 2021 12:57 pm

Andreshotboots wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 12:01 pm
Does anybody think the geographical location of Newcastle will stop them from ever being a super power?

Obviously money talks with a lot of players, but the types of lads they will be looking to sign will be multi millionaires already, so would more cash be more of an incentive to them so that they’re not bothered about living in the North East?

Like our players, I’m aware they won’t probably live anywhere near the club, and there are some wonderful areas in the north east of England but I just think the location may prevent players choosing Paris, Madrid, London or even Manchester over the freezing cold north east..
Sort of the point I was making above. It’s a congested market for the top players and Newcastle may take some selling regardless of the cash.

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Post by KRBFC » Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:14 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:52 am
Absolutely. You're entitled to be as excited as you wish by it. Not too sure what you mean by 'the PL has stepped up another gear' when in a slightly later post you mention even higher transfer fees and higher wage demands. Bit confused by that. My wife of 47 years is a Geordie and is disgusted by what has happened to her club. She refuses to play the Blaydon Races on the piano anymore and has binned my 'Larn yersel Geordie' book. Funny old game.
I didn't mention higher wage demands and transfer fees, Sidney did while quoting my post. As for the league stepping up a gear, the standard at the top is incredibly high right now and with Newcastle now soon to be joining that party, it's only gonna improve the standard of the league. I'm excited to see it play out as a football fan.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by KRBFC » Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:17 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:59 am
Yes it does, we will see another increase in transfer fees and wage demands.
I don't think we'll be in the PL long term, we're waiting to be relegated. Wether it's this season, next or the following one, we're sitting ducks without drastic action.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by KRBFC » Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:21 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:58 am
We don't know what he's going to do yet, he might even retire for all we know.
He may not want to play for another club in the PL, he may end up staying at Real with a new deal.

Multiple possibilities.

I see there are claims that Newcastle have enquired about Martial though....not exactly a world class signing ...
You said Bale wants European football but he agreed a deal to sign for a Chinese team before Real pulled the plug. It's quite clear what his motivation is.

There's only one way to find out what will happen at Newcastle, I'd be surprised if they signed players who are similar level to what they already have.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Milltown1882 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:38 pm

The Telegraph reporting Tarks to Newcastle as a rumour and saying he’s keen on the move.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Spijed » Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:48 pm

Does that mean we could possibly get a few quid for him in January as we know that money is no object for them?
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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by NewClaret » Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:50 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:38 pm
The Telegraph reporting Tarks to Newcastle as a rumour and saying he’s keen on the move.
Ahhh ****!

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Spijed » Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:51 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:50 pm
Ahhh ****!
That's why we got Collins, who looks a good replacement.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by NewClaret » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:02 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:51 pm
That's why we got Collins, who looks a good replacement.
Very true. Need to start giving him some game time if we think he’s ready to replace him from January.

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:10 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:48 pm
Does that mean we could possibly get a few quid for him in January as we know that money is no object for them?
That would be a monumental loss

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Re: Tarks & McNeil

Post by Swizzlestick » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:48 pm

More gold from UTC’s resident gobshites in the opening exchanges of this thread.

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