Paul Merson

Yorkshirelad · Post by **Yorkshirelad** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:05 pm

Just watched the program on TV reference his gambling problem. What a brave man, I only hope he can stay clear of his demon. So brave to open up to everyone like he did in the program.

Good Luck for the future

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:23 pm

I hope his Soccer Saturday pal Jeff Stelling watched the documentary who is constantly seen on a Saturday afternoon promoting Sky Bet and encouraging gamblers to "Set their Limits".

As Paul Merson said the idea of a compulsive gambler "Setting Limits" is just nonsense. If they were able to do that they wouldn't have a gambling addiction.

In the majority of the tragic stories related during the programme the betting companies must have been aware that these customers had problems, just by the number and frequency of bets placed and by the mounting losses and almost daily deposits.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:42 pm

It really is a terrible illness, I hope he pulls through and can stop gambling, he is certainly trying hard enough.

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:23 pm

I’ve said it on here a thousand times, gambling endorsements, free bet offers, oversaturated sponsorships etc, need to stop. And whilst we’re at it, get it out of our football club ASAP. I won’t stop shouting about it.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:59 pm

There was a point in the programme, where Merson was saying that he doesn’t think he has another recovery in him. A very sobering comment from him.

The data that they hold on individuals and the way in which they use it for their own financial benefit, rather than as they all claim, to support vulnerable users, is scandalous.

Smacks of the tobacco companies, all those years ago.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:10 am

Any addiction can be overcome & usually pain is the persuader & often until that point is reached it’s only that person who can decide enough is enough, it has to come from within.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:39 am

please bet responsibly , what a joke. I feel sorry for merson, but the radio stations that he often works for are a squalid mess.

HunterST_BFC · Post by **HunterST_BFC** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:45 am

Merson is paid by gambling ad's.
They sponsor the programs he is on...

(and he is actually poop at his job)

Thick as Mince.

No sympathy from me.
Put your hand in a fire - Ouch - Learn from it.
Keep putting you're hand in the same fire getting repeatedly burned - despite help given to him - and still keep doing it?

Embarrassing - No sympathy

AND YES I DETEST DO DETEST GAMBLING COMPANIES - THEIR OMNIPRESENT INFECTION ON TV AND SPORT. IN ALL MEDIA ETC.

It's Money Grooming and Money Milking.

ClaretMov · Post by **ClaretMov** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:03 am

bfcjg wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:42 pm
It really is a terrible illness, I hope he pulls through and can stop gambling, he is certainly trying hard enough.

I bet he doesn't

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:57 am

One thing I’ve learnt is you can’t discuss addiction with people who don’t get it, as seen by a few above.

I had a mate open up to me about it recently, he said he has been doing thousands a week and can often lose £200 whilst driving home from work, he’s had other issues in life and used gambling as a way to get his thrill, he’s only really realising now what’s it done to him, and I felt really sorry for him as he was crying out for help. Thankfully he can afford it but he still hates himself for it.

I just do a football bet these days £5/£10 or so, and haven’t been in a bookies for years which is still too much but I was betting £200+ a week when I was younger and would say I have an addiction. I started on fruit machines, thankfully I feel like an idiot playing them now so don’t.

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 6:57 am

Within 6 months of gambling advertising being banned it'll seem ludicrous it was ever allowed.

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:03 am

I also believe that instant access through computers and especially smartphones, have increased the issue markedly over the last 10-15 years.

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:10 am

I've never been addicted to anything, but I always thought that the best thing to do is remove yourself from any temptation
Yet this prat ( yes I've met him) puts himself in the line of fire every Saturday afternoon,, not only are there gambling adds, but also the super six, or whatever its called, where all the panel get excited if someone is close to a big win, that cannot possibly be any help

beddie · Post by **beddie** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:40 am

It’s very easy to sit back and criticise someone when perhaps you, a close friend or family member have actually been in that position. I do agree though that he works and probably gets paid as a result of advertising companies. Without doubt he’ll need constant help. I too would like to see all advertising of betting stopped in all forms. I’m sat here thinking I don’t bet but then realise I buy one lottery ticket every week. I really hope the lad can beat his demons, it’s a long road though.

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:57 am

This was an excellent look at the horrors of addiction , the chat with the parents of suicide victims ( due to gambling) was incredibly difficult to watch . Merson’s a troubled man with many demons and though a simple soul you can only admire his fight .He reminds of an alcoholic ( which he is but is dry) at the late stages when they’ve almost accepted their fate . Bizarrely I found my self “ betting with myself” when he’d first start blubbing ( about 7 mins in) . Though you can’t help but wish him the best. That betting companies can advertise so blatantly is a travesty .

Rochdale Cowboy · Post by **Rochdale Cowboy** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:13 am

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:10 am
Any addiction can be overcome & usually pain is the persuader & often until that point is reached it’s only that person who can decide enough is enough, it has to come from within.

Its clear you have never been close to someone with an addiction. Please don't post about something you don't know anything about.

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:39 am

jdrobbo wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:03 am
I also believe that instant access through computers and especially smartphones, have increased the issue markedly over the last 10-15 years.

100%, betting on smart phones is the devil, easy to lose £100 in minutes and it doesn’t feel like real money until you check your online banking. The worst thing about online gambling is you end up losing any winnings because you aren’t seeing physical money so gamble until your account is empty.

Belial · Post by **Belial** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:41 am

jdrobbo wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:23 pm
I’ve said it on here a thousand times, gambling endorsements, free bet offers, oversaturated sponsorships etc, need to stop. And whilst we’re at it, get it out of our football club ASAP. I won’t stop shouting about it.

The irony is, the bookies will soon restrict your account if you take advantage of too many of their 'offers', but are quite happy to allow you to plunge into serious debt without consequence by putting you there in the first place

Rats

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:55 am

It is the accessibility of it all that's driving addiction. Once at time you would have to go into a smelly old betting shop, nowadays, you can carry one round in your pocket. I know someone who took VR last year, and he's spent nearly all of his redundancy money on sports betting.

Thing is, the algorithms kicked in when the software cottoned on that his stakes were getting larger, because all the free bets stuff etc was activated. Such a pernicious 'industry'. The way they use every tool they can, including psychology, in order to suck more money out of those who have a problem.

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:18 am

An old school friend of mine has a long standing gambling problem. I think back to school days and he used to play blackjack for very small stakes (10p max per hand). He would play walking to school with others (occasionally me but not a frequent player) and even in class under the desk. After school he would walk into town and into the amusement arcade to play the fruit machines. Once he had lost all his cash then he would spend time watching others play and learning where each symbol was on the reels.

After we left school, he started backing horses, back in the day where you had to go into a smoke-filled shop to place bets. I rarely joined in and on the few times i did would bet a couple of quid and then leave to go and do something else and check the results later on teletext or the paper the following morning. He would spend the rest of the day in there trying to win back his losses. I lost touch with him and it was around 10 years ago that i got back in contact. He quickly got onto the subject of gambling and revealed that he had lost his house and 2 marriages due to his gambling. I said i sometimes played on line poker but only for play money, i wouldnt risk losing real money playing that. He told me that it was one of the worst things to ever happen to him was the on line betting, casinos and cards. At one point, he had a 6 figure balance in his account - didn't say how much but a min of £100k. It would have cleared all his debts and resolved a lot of the problems in his life had he taken the cash. But as he said, he is a gambler and that is how he got to the balance he did. £10 can become £100, become £1,000, become £10,000, become £100,000. In his world the £100,000 could become £1,000,000. Unfortunately it became £0, as he lost, chased the loss, lost more and so on.

Thankfully at a young age i recognised what could happen if you started on the slippery slope so steered clear. What really reinforced this was realising in the bookies there were 4 windows where you could place a bet and 1 window for paying out winnings. As with most addictions, it preys on the weak, vulnerable and easily led and influenced, a category i dont fall into.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:47 am

The part of the program showing the brain scan and how Mersons brain was stimulated by gambling scenes was very interesting and possibly could lead to more targeted treatment be it neurological, therapy medicine or a combination of the three. Its obviously possible to beat addiction but surely help should be given as it will be cheaper in the long run.
I refuse to buy football shirts with gambling adverts on them it's my bit of a protest.

Yorkshirelad · Post by **Yorkshirelad** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:36 am

HunterST_BFC wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:45 am
Merson is paid by gambling ad's.
They sponsor the programs he is on...

(and he is actually poop at his job)

Thick as Mince.

No sympathy from me.
Put your hand in a fire - Ouch - Learn from it.
Keep putting you're hand in the same fire getting repeatedly burned - despite help given to him - and still keep doing it?

Embarrassing - No sympathy

AND YES I DETEST DO DETEST GAMBLING COMPANIES - THEIR OMNIPRESENT INFECTION ON TV AND SPORT. IN ALL MEDIA ETC.

It's Money Grooming and Money Milking.

I understand what you say BUT if you watched the program you can't help but feel some empathy for him. He has tried to over come his addition but as failed on a number of occasions. In reality I would imagine it is a mental illness.

If you look at the problem, that young men who are footballers are earning a lot of money and potentially have a lot of spare time on their hands. This is not really a new problem and many of us would like to be in their position as a professional footballer which was certainly my dream as a young man.

I would hope in today's world that more help is given to these young guy's.

I would hope in our world at the Turf it would be worth appointing someone to be responsible even if it is to keep them occupied in an afternoon with education activities.

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:37 am

You can bet, no pun intended etc, that the betting industry has already looked at brain scans and how to maximise a targeted response.

It's a hidden epidemic that's been allowed to get out of control. It's clear that further regulations are required. For a start, I'd ban the industry from sport sponsorship, like we did with tobacco.

BTW: Does anyone here lose respect for someone, you previously admired, when you see them doing a betting commercial? I certainly do, especially when most of them are already millionaires.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:38 am

I’ll have a dabble for a bit of fun with bits of money I can afford to lose now.

I used to be quite bad with it when younger and I had no real responsibilities.

Worked with a lad who at 18/19 won one of those big jackpots on a slots game and had £170/200k in his account a couple of days later. Turns out he’d spent the next 7/8 years trying to chase that win again rather than get himself set up for life with it at a young age. He asked me to borrow £20 til payday and I had a bit of a do at him when I found out he’d put a bet on the next day “I don’t mind lending you money to eat/get to work, but I’m not lending you money if you’re still able to bet”. Shows the levels some people can sink to though when I thought about it afterwards - where he would happily walk to work and not eat so he could get a few extra spins in.

Im_not_Robbie_Blake · Post by **Im_not_Robbie_Blake** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:39 am

Supporter must love wearing a Burnley shirt at matches. Very sadly, I just can't buy one that has a gambling logo on the front. If I wore the current one I would feel proud to be supporting my club but horrified at publicising gambling. As soon as that situation stops being the norm I will buy a shirt and wear it with 100% pride.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:00 am

Im_not_Robbie_Blake wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:39 am
Supporter must love wearing a Burnley shirt at matches. Very sadly, I just can't buy one that has a gambling logo on the front. If I wore the current one I would feel proud to be supporting my club but horrified at publicising gambling. As soon as that situation stops being the norm I will buy a shirt and wear it with 100% pride.

I’m not sure it the publicising of gambling per se that is the problem it’s more to do with how easy it is to gamble of how the companies draw people in with the offer of free or no risk bets, that’s probably what needs addressing.

Last night’s programme was certainly a thought provoking watch but didn’t give much thought to what could be done to reduce addiction. To be fair that was probably difficult in the context of Paul Merson looking at his own addiction as it became clear it was very much part of his risk taking personality and his brain was wired that way meaning he was probably destined to be an addict. Whether his brain had been wired that way since birth or it was something he’d acquired through life it wasn’t possible to say but it was clear he’d had the problem since his teenage years and I suspect it will always be the case that some people are just going to be addicted to something whatever measures you take.

kazza · Post by **kazza** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:02 am

kentonclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 11, 2021 10:23 pm
As Paul Merson said the idea of a compulsive gambler "Setting Limits" is just nonsense. If they were able to do that they wouldn't have a gambling addiction.

The only reason why these adverts include Setting Limits and "If the fun stops, stop", it to cover themselves and meet regulations. I don't believe gambling firms give a toss about whether people get addicted. It's just more money for them.

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:05 am

martin_p wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:00 am
I’m not sure it the publicising of gambling per se that is the problem

Certainly draws people in, or else they wouldn't spend hundreds of millions on it every year.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:10 am

Billy Balfour wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:05 am
Certainly draws people in, or else they wouldn't spend hundreds of millions on it every year.

I’m not sure shirt sponsorship is about ‘drawing people in’ it’s about brand awareness. I doubt anyone has decided to start betting because they saw the name of a betting company on a shirt. It may be that having seen the name of the company that the next time they were having a bet they decided to use the company they’d seen on the shirt.

It’s the proper ads that draw people in, the ones targeted at young men that show betting as a lifestyle and part of a great days with your mates watching the match. It’s the ones that tempt you to have a bet by offering you free credit if you do or allowing you a bet where you get your money back if you lose. A logo on a shirt does none of that.

kazza · Post by **kazza** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:15 am

martin_p wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:10 am
I’m not sure shirt sponsorship is about ‘drawing people in’ it’s about brand awareness. I doubt anyone has decided to start betting because they saw the name of a betting company on a shirt. It may be that having seen the name of the company that the next time they were having a bet they decided to use the company they’d seen on the shirt.

It’s the proper ads that draw people in, the ones targeted at young men that show betting as a lifestyle and part of a great days with your mates watching the match. It’s the ones that tempt you to have a bet by offering you free credit if you do or allowing you a bet where you get your money back if you lose. A logo on a shirt does none of that.

I think it's about both. A logo on a shirt will get people to place a bet whilst they watch the game. Whether it's on TV or on the ground. "BetFred - I'll have a flutter at halftime".

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:25 am

Yes, it's all part of the machine, including brand awareness.

Im_not_Robbie_Blake · Post by **Im_not_Robbie_Blake** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:27 am

The Merson programme made it clear that the gambling companies are doing all they can to get people to bet, then milk them dry with tempting 'offers' that cause nothing but harm to the individual.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:35 am

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:39 am
100%, betting on smart phones is the devil, easy to lose £100 in minutes and it doesn’t feel like real money until you check your online banking. The worst thing about online gambling is you end up losing any winnings because you aren’t seeing physical money so gamble until your account is empty.

Exactly this, a couple of years ago, I would bet on acca or single games then halfway through with my bet not winning do in play bets etc. A single game on TV could lose me £100 as on your phone it was just so easy and as you say doesn't feel like money.

Also for me, the problem was online when you make an acca, you can see the odds in front of you with each team you add to the bet. I would finish an acca and it would be like 30/1 and I would feel the odds aren't high enough and keep adding teams to make it 200/1 or so, deep down obviously knew it had no real chance of winning but still placed the bet anyway.

I downloaded an app which stops me doing any bets on my phone or computer and now if I want to bet, I will go to a bookies with £5, select 5 teams to win on a Saturday and that's it and it feels more worthwhile getting a win and seeing the money in your wallet than some "fictional" number online on a screen. Also doing this has resulted in my betting a lot less more than before and also placing less bets, as if it was a Saturday morning and raining/cold, I can never be bothered walking to the bookies in the first place.

The app I use which I hope would be of help to others to stop all gambling on your phone and computer is Gamban and the link to their site for the app and further help is below:

https://gamban.com/talkbanstop?gclid=Cj ... MVEALw_wcB

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:36 am

Belial wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:41 am
The irony is, the bookies will soon restrict your account if you take advantage of too many of their 'offers', but are quite happy to allow you to plunge into serious debt without consequence by putting you there in the first place

Rats

I was with a betting company on my phone app a few years ago, spending a lot, but the company allowed day after day for me to deposit money, but once I had a big win in the many thousands, and they then banned my account for suspicious activity.

They're happy to take the money, but as soon as you get a win they're quick to close your account.

kazza · Post by **kazza** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:48 am

Belial wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:41 am
The irony is, the bookies will soon restrict your account if you take advantage of too many of their 'offers', but are quite happy to allow you to plunge into serious debt without consequence by putting you there in the first place

Also, this happened to me with Sky Bet... I was placing £100 bets (due to previous winnings) on almost 50/50 football games and I won about 4 times in a row. I then log in and my account has been terminated. Had I not been winning, that wouldn't have happened.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:48 pm

Belial wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:41 am
The irony is, the bookies will soon restrict your account if you take advantage of too many of their 'offers', but are quite happy to allow you to plunge into serious debt without consequence by putting you there in the first place

Rats

I've had exactly that happen in the last couple of weeks via BET365. Now I'm not in anyway a big gambler, £5a week on the footy or a tenner if Theres a big race meeting like Royal Ascot, The Grand National or Cheltenham.

At the turn or the year I found a way of winning small but consistent amounts by doing 4x bet builder accumulators on each game to have more than 1 goal, more than 1 booking and more than 5 corners, which pays out between £25 - £50 odds depending.

On the last full weekend before the international break I went to put my usual bet on only to find my stake had been restricted to a maximum of £4.17 (which I though was a very odd figure!)

Belial · Post by **Belial** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:49 pm

Yep, agree with the above. Allegedly the industry is regulated tho. I would like to know how many other businesses in other industries would happily bar their customers for actually using them regularly... the fact they get away with it is pretty scandalous tbh

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:50 pm

kazza wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:48 am
Also, this happened to me with Sky Bet... I was placing £100 bets (due to previous winnings) on almost 50/50 football games and I won about 4 times in a row. I then log in and my account has been terminated. Had I not been winning, that wouldn't have happened.

Which in itself is a bad thing, as a terminated account to an addict will likely result in opening another account with a different company and being hit with several ‘high endorphin’ welcome offers, thus accentuating the problem further.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:57 pm

Rochdale Cowboy wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:13 am
Its clear you have never been close to someone with an addiction. Please don't post about something you don't know anything about.

I’ve been extremely close & every addiction can be overcome with the right support & mindset but it’s the person that will make the difference/change & nobody else, if addictions couldn’t be overcome we wouldn’t have ex alcoholics or ex heroin users ect ect. Not everybody can overcome addiction but it can be done because we have living proof from ex addicts that have come out of the darkness.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:11 pm

The perfect example of how seriously betting companies take regulations and responsibilities is to look no further than the "When The Fun Stops Stop" campaign. The FUN part is in massive letters with circus style lightbulbs on each letter, where as the 1st "Stop" is in a standard uppercase font a lot smaller, with the final "STOP" taking the form of a stop sign which again is reduced when compared to the "FUN" element

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:07 pm

Will the follow up programs be about his drug addiction, or his alcohol addiction?...gambling adverts Carnt be blamed for those

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:16 pm

What a tosser.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:39 pm

Grumps wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:07 pm
Will the follow up programs be about his drug addiction, or his alcohol addiction?...gambling adverts Carnt be blamed for those

Possibly, but I suspect the point is as Merson put it… you have to make an effort to drink or take drugs, and you can only put so much into your body… gambling addiction uses the chemicals already in the body. He had the strength to beat external addiction but not internal… making, for Mers at least, gambolling the far most dangerous of the three addictions.

I have no background in gambling.. but surely the stock market apps can be potentially another cause for concern, for the same reasons as on-line betting? I am lucky in that I can go years not even thinking of gambling… but when I visit Casino’s on holiday I embrace the hobby with elan… but only for the duration of the holiday and then return to my also Puritan attitude once home without issue, in that at least I am blessed.

Betting apps should be far more strictly regulated. If I wanted to I could have signed up to a betting firm and spent ‘this weeks money’ and more in less time than it took to write this… Despite a medical history including a mental breakdown and borderline Manic depressive episodes…Natasha would have no idea I had spent the weeks pot… that cannot be right.

IWOODLOVETT · Post by **IWOODLOVETT** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:45 pm

No sympathy at all for this waste of space. Is it a coincidence that he’s appearing, sobbing on our screens just as he’s launching his 5th book?

He’s tried all the addictions under the sun, drugs, alcohol, gambling, three wives, eight kids - he’s now being paid to blub on screen in “poor me” programme shoots.

Even his Saturday opinions on forthcoming matches and players has a addictive theme “Don’t get me wrong Jeff, I’m a massive fan of xxxxxxxx but in my opinion ........ (rubbish).

Sacked by Walsall and two wives (so far) for a reason.

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:54 pm

Billy Balfour wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:16 pm
What a tosser.

I have to agree unfortunately... Some people are just beyond help at times.. Merson, gazza, Best etc etc... I think it's probably something they were born with

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:55 pm

Tried all addictions? The crap you read on here, eh.

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:00 pm

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:11 pm
The perfect example of how seriously betting companies take regulations and responsibilities is to look no further than the "When The Fun Stops Stop" campaign. The FUN part is in massive letters with circus style lightbulbs on each letter, where as the 1st "Stop" is in a standard uppercase font a lot smaller, with the final "STOP" taking the form of a stop sign which again is reduced when compared to the "FUN" element

The betting adverts are an easy target... How many people who sign up turn out to be an addict?
Not everyone who buys a pint of Stella having seen an advert turns in to an alcoholic?
Where do drug addicts see the adverts for their drug of choice?

PremierLeagueClass · Post by **PremierLeagueClass** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:04 pm

IWOODLOVETT wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:45 pm
No sympathy at all for this waste of space. Is it a coincidence that he’s appearing, sobbing on our screens just as he’s launching his 5th book?

He’s tried all the addictions under the sun, drugs, alcohol, gambling, three wives, eight kids - he’s now being paid to blub on screen in “poor me” programme shoots.

Even his Saturday opinions on forthcoming matches and players has a addictive theme “Don’t get me wrong Jeff, I’m a massive fan of xxxxxxxx but in my opinion ........ (rubbish).

Sacked by Walsall and two wives (so far) for a reason.

Have to agree with this.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:50 pm

Interesting to see the complete lack of empathy by some posters, whether that is due to jealously, personal dislike or Merson or narcissism; I’m sure each poster has their reasons. I’m sure they would be just as quick to accept judgements against themselves as they are as to impose their judgements on others.

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:35 pm

Absolutely, elwa.