Cornet

[Vino blanco]

If he scored two goals every game like he today, I wouldn't give a f.ck if he never tracked back again whilst he is with us.

[AlargeClaret]

Great talent and his price will double if he keeps this up for a few months

[Rileybobs]

If he scored two goals every game like he today, I wouldn't give a f.ck if he never tracked back again whilst he is with us.

Whilst I get your point we’re not exactly in a position to be carrying players. Clearly this lad needs to play, that isn’t even up for debate. But if he isn’t up to the defensive demands of our ‘framework’ then we need to set the rest of the team up around him, something that Dyche hasn’t done before. As things stand he looks like he has the potential to be the difference between us staying up or going down.

[RingoMcCartney]

If he saves us buy turning in these performances, keeping him will be difficult.

[Woodleyclaret]

Exactly he's a striker and we don't want him tracking back just staying up and scoring

[SalisburyClaret]

He didn’t track back as the tactic was for him to stay forward. Wood (surprisingly) went back until the chance of a quick breakaway was over. Cornet then swopped with him

[expoultryboy]

With his instinct for goal , play him upfront in a two or even on his own in a 4-5-1

[Billyblah]

If he scored two goals every game like he today, I wouldn't give a f.ck if he never tracked back again whilst he is with us.

Given that he pulled up with a hamstring v Leicester, and he may still be adapting to the pace of Premier League football and could have been instructed to not track back. He can clearly score goals, we need him in forward positions. We don't want him risking further hamstring problems by expecting him to fulfill a defensive role.

[ClaretAL]

Given that he pulled up with a hamstring v Leicester, and he may still be adapting to the pace of Premier League football and could have been instructed to not track back. He can clearly score goals, we need him in forward positions. We don't want him risking further hamstring problems by expecting him to fulfill a defensive role.

Yep agree with that, but in that case we are wide open on the wing and the Saints capitalised on that today, so as others have said, we need to move to a different formation, however i dont see Dyche doing that.

[Burnley1989]

We need to find his best position and adapt our team to suit, he’s that good. Won’t be a popular opinion but Stephens might even be the man to sit deep and protect the back 4 when he returns.
Best attacking threat we have had for as long as I can remember, and first player with genuine top class quality since Defour

[Newcastleclaret93]

We need to find his best position and adapt our team to suit, he’s that good. Won’t be a popular opinion but Stephens might even be the man to sit deep and protect the back 4 when he returns.
Best attacking threat we have had for as long as I can remember, and first player with genuine top class quality since Defour

I was actually thinking this earlier, Stephens protecting the back four whilst McNeil and Cornet try to create

[Vino blanco]

Stephens? I’ll file him alongside Crouch, Walters, Lennon etc.

[TheFamilyCat]

4-3-3/4-5-1 seems the way to go

Westwood, Cork and Brownhill as a midfield three with McNeil and Cornet wide.

One of the midfield three should be able to protect the full back and put less pressure on Cornet in particular to track back.

I'd like to think that we could make that work to give us both an attacking threat and solidity in defence.

[Vegas Claret]

Whilst I get your point we’re not exactly in a position to be carrying players

he seems to be the one doing the carrying !!!!

[ClaretAL]

4-3-3/4-5-1 seems the way to go

Westwood, Cork and Brownhill as a midfield three with McNeil and Cornet wide.

One of the midfield three should be able to protect the full back and put less pressure on Cornet in particular to track back.

I'd like to think that we could make that work to give us both an attacking threat and solidity in defence.

Or Roberts on the right with Dwight Left, and cornet Central attacking.

[Iloveyoubrady]

4-3-3/4-5-1 seems the way to go

Westwood, Cork and Brownhill as a midfield three with McNeil and Cornet wide.

One of the midfield three should be able to protect the full back and put less pressure on Cornet in particular to track back.

I'd like to think that we could make that work to give us both an attacking threat and solidity in defence.

Makes sense to me. I thought we tried to do that at times today but brownhill ended up too high with cork going left and that left us open in the middle. A true midfield 3 would solve the issue as one cm can easily then track the full back instead of whichever winger has been forward.

Also there’s an element of cornet learning the shape more as a lot of the time today he did track back but didn’t get into the normal low block shape we use and was too narrow.

[bfcjg]

The guy is something special, he livens up the game,things happen around him and he scores much needed goals FFS all this garbage and sh1te about tracking back and defending that is for less talented run of the mill one dimensional players of which sadly we are over subscribed .

[DCWat]

Sort of like we didn’t really know what we were getting and how he’d fit into the team.

[Rileybobs]

The guy is something special, he livens up the game,things happen around him and he scores much needed goals FFS all this garbage and sh1te about tracking back and defending that is for less talented run of the mill one dimensional players of which sadly we are over subscribed .

It’s really not. A lot has been made of Ronaldo’s lack of contribution off the ball for Man Utd. Even they have suffered as a result despite Ronaldo contributing with goals. And the difference between Man Utd and us is that we have to defend from the front, and all of our players need to put in a shift to reduce the gap in ability between our players and those of the other teams.

The idea that we can play Cornet out wide in a 4-4-2 and absolve him of any defensive duties is ridiculous.

[bfcjg]

It’s really not. A lot has been made of Ronaldo’s lack of contribution off the ball for Man Utd. Even they have suffered as a result despite Ronaldo contributing with goals. And the difference between Man Utd and us is that we have to defend from the front, and all of our players need to put in a shift to reduce the gap in ability between our players and those of the other teams.

The idea that we can play Cornet out wide in a 4-4-2 and absolve him of any defensive duties is ridiculous.

Have you ever thought that Ronaldo is so good because he doesn't have to worry about defensive duties and the risk of an injury that can cause ? His defensive duties arecdeadcsimple, stay in an advanced position and at least 2 of the opposition have to drop back to mark him thus giving a numerical advantage defensively to his team, ditto us with Cornet the opposition should be worried about him and drop back to mark him , I'm not saying if an attack breaks down he shouldn't attempt a block or tackle straight away but after that no, leave it to the framework to kick in.

[Local cricketer]

Sort of like we didn’t really know what we were getting and how he’d fit into the team.

Great signing by Pace. Has a good eye for a player

[Iloveyoubrady]

Great interview on clarets plus. English is getting better.

[NewClaret]

Great signing by Pace. Has a good eye for a player

Hope he’s got a lot more lined up for January!

[warksclaret]

The guy is something special, he livens up the game,things happen around him and he scores much needed goals FFS all this garbage and sh1te about tracking back and defending that is for less talented run of the mill one dimensional players of which sadly we are over subscribed .

You don't score goals when tracking back. You are only covering for someone not capable of doing their jobs. And he is the only one that seems to have that gift. The previous goal to his three was scored by Vardy. Reminds me of when David Ginola joined Newcastle. He was sensational in his early games. Someone interviewed Keegan after one of these early performances and asked "We understand Ginola prefers to be on the golf course rather than training ?". Keegan instantly replied "He can play golf all day, if it means he puts in performances like today's". We need to built our team around this guy and give him the freedom of the park

[Rileybobs]

Have you ever thought that Ronaldo is so good because he doesn't have to worry about defensive duties and the risk of an injury that can cause ? His defensive duties arecdeadcsimple, stay in an advanced position and at least 2 of the opposition have to drop back to mark him thus giving a numerical advantage defensively to his team, ditto us with Cornet the opposition should be worried about him and drop back to mark him , I'm not saying if an attack breaks down he shouldn't attempt a block or tackle straight away but after that no, leave it to the framework to kick in.

Ronaldo's lack of defensive workload has no doubt contributed to his prolonged career at the very highest level and his status as one of the best players of all time. But for the vast majority of his career Ronaldo has played for the best teams in world football, where they dominate possession and outscore the opposition. That doesn't remotely compare with playing for Burnley.

[CFS]

Can't do Woods job and track back surely???

[Local cricketer]

Hope he’s got a lot more lined up for January!

Well you January is a difficult month to get anything done

[Iloveyoubrady]

Ronaldo's lack of defensive workload has no doubt contributed to his prolonged career at the very highest level and his status as one of the best players of all time. But for the vast majority of his career Ronaldo has played for the best teams in world football, where they dominate possession and outscore the opposition. That doesn't remotely compare with playing for Burnley.

This is true. But I don’t think it is a case of having cornet not track back. He does track back quite a lot, just doesn’t quite fully know the “shape” yet. Also it’s a balance of attacking intent vs defensive stability. Max is perfectly adequate defensively I’m sure - he’s played left back but dyche has commented about how he likes him giving us something different running in behind. It’s just finding the right structure and balance for us in a compromise between attack and defence. Whether that is 451 or 442 we’ll see.

[KevWebstersBomber]

The lad is absolute dynamite. Worth the journey and admission to see him play.

Best we’ve had in my lifetime by some distance.

[Rileybobs]

This is true. But I don’t think it is a case of having cornet not track back. He does track back quite a lot, just doesn’t quite fully know the “shape” yet. Also it’s a balance of attacking intent vs defensive stability. Max is perfectly adequate defensively I’m sure - he’s played left back but dyche has commented about how he likes him giving us something different running in behind. It’s just finding the right structure and balance for us in a compromise between attack and defence. Whether that is 451 or 442 we’ll see.

I think you're probably right. He didn't seem to be getting any bollockings in the first half when Soton were running rampant down our left, in fact on a couple of occasions Wood was the one sprinting back to cover. I just think in our usual system we're not going to see the best out of him, so we really need to look at working a system around him. Not something I'd usually be a fan of, but it looks like we'll be relying on him to get us out of the brown stuff.

[Iloveyoubrady]

I think you're probably right. He didn't seem to be getting any bollockings in the first half when Soton were running rampant down our left, in fact on a couple of occasions Wood was the one sprinting back to cover. I just think in our usual system we're not going to see the best out of him, so we really need to look at working a system around him. Not something I'd usually be a fan of, but it looks like we'll be relying on him to get us out of the brown stuff.

I think he can fit into a system of ours as a more defensive winger in a 442, but we want to get the best out of him and get him in behind as dyche himself has said.

It was clear though 1st half the rb was running riot and dyche should have done something about it. Cornet, brownhill, Wood and cork all had a go defending wide left but it would have been better to settle a bit with our 1-0 lead.

Good problems to have though because I don’t think we’d have scored today without him and it gives us options...

[bfcjg]

I reckon him and Vydra would be quite awesome attacking defenders, has Dyche the mindset to try it though or will it be same old same old against Brentford ie launch it and hope for flick ons etc from Wood .

[CrosspoolClarets]

Should have been a hat trick today.

Didn’t quite realise until seeing it on MOTD how easy a pass it would have been for Brownhill to release him through on goal just after he equalised. Such an easy pass but Brownhill passed back to Dwight instead - sums up our creativity issues.

On this evidence playing right up with their defensive line is his best position.

[Rumpelstiltskin]

Do we play him on Wednesday v Spurs in a Cup game or rest him and make sure he’s fit for Brentford on Saturday ?

[Stalbansclaret]

Do we play him on Wednesday v Spurs in a Cup game or rest him and make sure he’s fit for Brentford on Saturday ?

Was thinking the same. Would be great to watch him in both games BUT ....... bit of a dilemma.

[BenWickes]

I wouldn't say Cornet had a fantastic game yesterday. He had an effective game and played well. It's early days and players will still be getting used to him and vice versa, not mentioning his match fitness.
He has excellent awareness, movement and vision. Whether some of our players just don't see what he sees or they're just not at his level is open to debate. He was in our defensive third early in the game and won a tackle, he clearly wanted a give and go with Taylor. Who instead opted to play a safe sideways pass. Cornet stopped and put his arms in the air as if to say 'I wanted that back'.
I don't think we've even seen the best of him yet as he continues to adapt to the league and our system but some of his passing and movement was excellent. Not second touches, no dilly dallying. Crisp, first time balls on the front foot to players or into space.
I did notice the beginning of an understanding between him and McNeil. Something which can only be fruitful and his positional sense and movement for the goals he has scored is very clever.

[claretandy]

As I said from day 1, play him through the middle, it gets us higher up the pitch, and stops teams from pushing up.

[warksclaret]

I wouldn't say Cornet had a fantastic game yesterday. He had an effective game and played well. It's early days and players will still be getting used to him and vice versa, not mentioning his match fitness.
He has excellent awareness, movement and vision. Whether some of our players just don't see what he sees or they're just not at his level is open to debate. He was in our defensive third early in the game and won a tackle, he clearly wanted a give and go with Taylor. Who instead opted to play a safe sideways pass. Cornet stopped and put his arms in the air as if to say 'I wanted that back'.
I don't think we've even seen the best of him yet as he continues to adapt to the league and our system but some of his passing and movement was excellent. Not second touches, no dilly dallying. Crisp, first time balls on the front foot to players or into space.
I did notice the beginning of an understanding between him and McNeil. Something which can only be fruitful and his positional sense and movement for the goals he has scored is very clever.

You are right to pick out his awareness-it looks outstanding. If Wood, Rodriguez and to a lesser extent Vydra had it, we would have more points on the board. But he also possesses that instantaneous movement with anticipation of where the ball will go and this is where Wood and Rodriguez are somewhat pedestrian. I think if we could get a "young Greenwood" type player on loan from one of the top clubs like Man City, then having Cornet, McNeil , Vydra and that player involved will create chances. I could not currently see any of our existing players score either goal that Cornet scored yesterday, and this comes down to the quality of this guy. He made both his opportunities and dealt with them admirably

[BleedingClaret]

I thought his goal was good live
Watching it back on motd when I got back it was even better than I thought
Some talent but also very determined
Just need to get those hamstrings up to 90 + mins premier league pace

[RVclaret]

He’s an absolute breath of fresh air. Just shows what good recruitment can bring. Shame we had years of nothing as a ‘Cornet’ like signing in centre midfield would make the world of difference to our side.

[Boss Hogg]

I did t see the match yesterday but have seen the goals. Was Cornet playing behind Wood in a kind of 4411 ?

[Iloveyoubrady]

He’s an absolute breath of fresh air. Just shows what good recruitment can bring. Shame we had years of nothing as a ‘Cornet’ like signing in centre midfield would make the world of difference to our side.

That’s it. We nearly had it in Phillips, who would have been excellent, but garlick couldn’t stretch finances that much unfortunately. As you have said, a couple more of these “marquee” signings and we’ll be cruising. Let’s hope we stay up this year as it would make it a lot easier to do...

[Iloveyoubrady]

I did t see the match yesterday but have seen the goals. Was Cornet playing behind Wood in a kind of 4411 ?

Played left of 4411 to start but pushed higher up at times with others going back to defend the left side. Their right back started getting a lot of joy in that system so it was changed at half time so he was a striker off wood. Then went back to left wing near the end.

[Mala591]

I reckon him and Vydra would be quite awesome attacking defenders, has Dyche the mindset to try it though or will it be same old same old against Brentford ie launch it and hope for flick ons etc from Wood .

I agree, we need to try:

JBG——Brownhill——Westwood——McNeil
—————Vydra————Cornet

[bfcjg]

I'd try Robert's wide right in midfield, he has a cracking shot,great crossed and can defend JBG is past it sadly IMHO.

[SouthLondonexile]

What A difference a talented player ( like Max) makes to our team.
I am in disbelief that Vydra did not come on as a substitute for him. Being brought on for the last five minutes.
I was relieved to come away with a point.

[ElectroClaret]

Fabulous signing, someone on the match thread said the most exciting player since Glenn and Robbie and I wouldn't disagree.

[Vegas Claret]

I don't remember who it was but someone on here said he was a load of crap and wouldn't be good enough for the Premier League...........

[KRBFC]

I don't remember who it was but someone on here said he was a load of crap and wouldn't be good enough for the Premier League...........

and someone asked the question after he signed ''is he our best player ever?'' I know it's early days but he's probably the best attacking player I've seen play for us.

[Murger]

Brilliant game again. I just hope his attacking prowess isn't coached out of him.