January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[CrosspoolClarets]

The frustrating one was seemingly going for Ramsey while leaving Barkley, who was in the USA, as a last minute reserve. The other way around and we may have done something, who knows? But the shafting by Newcastle really diverted attention so we may have to be grateful we have plugged that gap because if we hadn’t we were stuffed big time.

[Rileybobs]

25 minutes to go yet. Still plenty more twists and turns to come.

[NewClaret]

25 minutes to go yet. Still plenty more twists and turns to come.

[dandeclaret]

Bottom of the tabe

Dull football

Turgic performances

No investment


Tell me, what can I get excited about?

Burnley in the premier league...
Burnley being the top side in Lancashire - that looked a long way away when I was growing up
Cornet, McNeill, Tarkowski et al - most of them the best group of players the majority of Burnley fans have seen
A Dutch international centre forward..... we used to get excited about Thorsten Boer, Bambo and Marco Gentile from Dutch clubs

Gratitude, and perspective, like the football club, massively under rated, massively under appreciated.

[BurnleyFC]

I also think we've made a right arse of this window.

Never a truer word written.

It’s been an absolute shambles and completely amateurish. Hell, it’d have been more ‘successful’ if we’d flogged Tarkowski and at least got a return on him before he walks for nothing.

We’ll do well not to finish bottom this season. We’ve got the worst squad in the league.

[what_no_pies]

If Weghorst gets anywhere near the 1 in 2 stats he's had through much of his career those goals turn draws into wins and keep us up.

One thing I'm confident of is that we were destined for the Championship with Chris Wood playing at half tilt.

Hope plenty of the moaners have to eat some humble pie as this window could prove to have been a masterstroke.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Burnley in the premier league...
Burnley being the top side in Lancashire - that looked a long way away when I was growing up
Cornet, McNeill, Tarkowski et al - most of them the best group of players the majority of Burnley fans have seen
A Dutch international centre forward..... we used to get excited about Thorsten Boer, Bambo and Marco Gentile from Dutch clubs

Gratitude, and perspective, like the football club, massively under rated, massively under appreciated.

Not sure what the above has got to do with a very dismal transfer window while we sit bottom of the league?

[SalisburyClaret]

Let’s hope the players have more spirit than some of the fans on this board

[Jakubclaret]

Bottom of the tabe

Dull football

Turgic performances

No investment


Tell me, what can I get excited about?

The day they sell up.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

If Weghorst gets anywhere near the 1 in 2 stats he's had through much of his career those goals turn draws into wins and keep us up.

One thing I'm confident of is that we were destined for the Championship with Chris Wood playing at half tilt.

Hope plenty of the moaners have to eat some humble pie as this window could prove to have been a masterstroke.

Masterstroke??? We had absolutely zero intention of selling Wood at the start of January.

[mybloodisclaret]

I really don't know what people want on here. It's glaringly clear that many quality players don't want to come here. Whether that be because of the Brexit Fc title that some have given us, because we are an unfashionable club, we are and we know it or whether there is a funding issue. I honestly don't know.

What I do know is that summer gave us hope, this window has shown promise, certainly close to Orsic, chased Ramsey and Barkley amongst other good talent. It hasn't happened. Credit to the Chairman for at least getting hands on to try and secure the deals. Personally I think agents are one of the main problems in the game and for us, and something quite unsavoury went on with the Orsic deal, as that stunk.

As supporters now, we have to really get behind the team and manager and hope we can grind out enough to maintain our status. The summer search for players should begin immediately and lessons need to be learned about where we have gone wrong this time.

Starting on Saturday we are in a fight, hoping Dwight, Wout and Maxwel can hit the ground running.

Keep the faith.

[boatshed bill]

Let’s hope the players have more spirit than some of the fans on this board

£40k p w and I have more spirit than I could ever deal with

[Fretters]

We're going down, it was always going to happen. Just hope we can get back up before the parachute payments end or it's back to selling players just to survive.

[dandeclaret]

Not sure what the above has got to do with a very dismal transfer window while we sit bottom of the league?

The quoted text I was responding too said " Tell me what I can get excited about".... It was a response to show that it's actually not that hard to get excited about stuff with a bit of perspective.

[kentonclaret]

So prior to the window opening we were led to believe that there was some money available, so we sell wood for £25m, buy weghorst for£12m, assuming there's a need and necessity to strengthen further, does anyone wish to suggest what went wrong, one reason that has already been mentioned is our position in the table, but it doesn't seem to have affected Watford for instance

Watford have made 4 signings in this window 3 of which were signed, sealed and delivered by 7th January which clearly suggests a different strategy to BFC who managed just a single addition on the last day of this transfer window. Whether that was down to Ranieri or the owners of Watford it suggests that there was some forward planning.

[turbo5]

Just hope we win on Saturday, otherwise I dread to think what the reaction will be if we are beaten. The new guy will be thinking do Lufthansa do Saturday night flights back to Germany or Holland.

[Spijed]

Watford have made 4 signings in this window 3 of which were signed, sealed and delivered by 7th January which clearly suggests a different strategy to BFC who managed just a single addition on the last day of this transfer window. Whether that was down to Ranieri or the owners of Watford it suggests that there was some forward planning.

I suspect managers have no say with regards to signings at Watford.

[dandeclaret]

Watford have made 4 signings in this window 3 of which were signed, sealed and delivered by 7th January which clearly suggests a different strategy to BFC who managed just a single addition on the last day of this transfer window. Whether that was down to Ranieri or the owners of Watford it suggests that there was some forward planning.

Do Watford and planning go into the same sentence? A manager merry go round, players coming and going constantly, swaps between various owner clubs to move money about, and generate cash flow.

[Zom Zom]

Watford, in all fairness, have been forward planning for years, however it has all been for the short term. They may have been more active but I don’t think they really know what they are doing, what they want and where they are going.

[thelaughingclaret]

Really annoying if we went for Barkley but couldn't convince him, exactly what we needed. I don’t get why you would pick rotting in Chelsea's reserves for another six months over premier league football, putting himself in the summer shop window in the process?
I guess it is too much hard work for him, same with Ramsey choosing to go to Scotland. Taken the easy way out. I suppose it is for the best if they weren't up for the challenge, but it is such a strange decision for a professional footballer to make! You think both would have jumped at the chance to play in the prem every week.

[levraiclaret]

Unplug it, turn out the lights and go home nothing to see hear

or even here

[Boss Hogg]

‘I really don’t know what some people want on here’
A better midfield than Cork Brownhill and Stephens who I doubt would be anywhere near the bench at any other PL team. The fact we haven’t been able to source better in successive windows is p*ss poor. We look like we are run by a bunch of amateurs at times. To not have any plan B when one of our targets rejects us is woefully inadequate. The season ticket sales will dwindle if we go down playing the same cr+p predictable football. If we don’t come straight back up ( which I doubt) the financial picture looks worrying. I just hope we can maintain Championship football and not become another Sunderland, Bolton or Bradford.

[ClaretMov]

or even here

And even ear

[alf_resco]

Well, if the transfer window was meant to be the preface to get folk "excited", stump up for an early-bird ticket and fill the ground on Saturday, I doubt it's worked.
I would have considered driving a 280 mile round trip for a 6.00pm k.o. getting home close to midnight if I thought there would be any material difference to the personnel on display. Changing one 6ft+ centre-forward to another one slightly taller doesn't cut it for me though.
However, I do have BT Sport so intend to watch in warm comfort, beer in hand.
And before anyone says it - I'm not a "proper" supporter.
"Exciting times" seems to be the postscript phrase in vogue.

[thelaughingclaret]

Well thats that, the window has SLAMMED shut!

[Top Claret]

‘I really don’t know what some people want on here’
A better midfield than Cork Brownhill and Stephens who I doubt would be anywhere near the bench at any other PL team. The fact we haven’t been able to source better in successive windows is p*ss poor. We look like we are run by a bunch of amateurs at times. To not have any plan B when one of our targets rejects us is woefully inadequate. The season ticket sales will dwindle if we go down playing the same cr+p predictable football. If we don’t come straight back up ( which I doubt) the financial picture looks worrying. I just hope we can maintain Championship football and not become another Sunderland, Bolton or Bradford.

The financial picture would look a dam site worse if we through the kitchen sink at the job like many of here expected us to. The reason why Sunderland, Bradford and Bolton are where they are today is because they didn't spend wisely.
We have done some great business with Wood and the Dutch lad which will give the club some extra leverage in the summer window, wether we are in the Premier league or championship

[DCWat]

We're going down, it was always going to happen. Just hope we can get back up before the parachute payments end or it's back to selling players just to survive.

There always was an inevitability that we’d be relegated. Frustratingly though, I really don’t think that this season needed to be that season.

We’ve only ourselves to blame if the worst happens.

[Blatherwickstattoo]

I find it inexcusable not to add a midfielder. Blame is at the owners and recruitment teams feet.

Westwood, cork , brownhill and stephens aren’t good enough for most championship clubs. We all like to complain about the style of football we play, but having slow, old, one footed, central midfielders (the heartbeat of any team) trying to compete against superior opponents week in week out is our major weak link.

I’m livid.

[ClaretMov]

To those that kept telling me/the rest of us wait until the window is closed and then judge the club, OVER TO YOU

[brexit]

All we have done in this window is replace wood and made £13m profit. We will play the same way, lose the same way and have the same excuses from DinoDyche.
Nothing has changed get over it and look forward to some competitive local derbies next season.
The only chance we have of staying up is to change the manager as we can't now change the players.

[claptrappers_union]

What worries me, if it’s not been mentioned earlier… what if Newcastle had triggered Woods release clause this week instead?

We managed to blag a replacement for a player we didn’t expect to lose, which, at best, should’ve been just an inconvenience to the focus towards other players we were pursuing.

What was our recruitment plan? If we didn’t sell Wood, would we have signed anyone at all?

[arise_sir_charge]

The financial picture would look a dam site worse if we through the kitchen sink at the job like many of here expected us to. The reason why Sunderland, Bradford and Bolton are where they are today is because they didn't spend wisely.
We have done some great business with Wood and the Dutch lad which will give the club some extra leverage in the summer window, wether we are in the Premier league or championship

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[Blatherwickstattoo]

What worries me, if it’s not been mentioned earlier… what if Newcastle had triggered Woods release clause this week instead?

We managed to blag a replacement for a player we didn’t expect to lose, which, at best, should’ve been just an inconvenience to the focus towards other players we were pursuing.

What was our recruitment plan? If we didn’t sell Wood, would we have signed anyone at all?

Exactly !!!!

[Dazzler]

I find it inexcusable not to add a midfielder. Blame is at the owners and recruitment teams feet.

Westwood, cork , brownhill and stephens aren’t good enough for most championship clubs. We all like to complain about the style of football we play, but having slow, old, one footed, central midfielders (the heartbeat of any team) trying to compete against superior opponents week in week out is our major weak link.

I’m livid.

The club can't conscript them if they don't wish to come

[boatshed bill]

The financial picture would look a dam site worse if we through the kitchen sink at the job like many of here expected us to. The reason why Sunderland, Bradford and Bolton are where they are today is because they didn't spend wisely.
We have done some great business with Wood and the Dutch lad which will give the club some extra leverage in the summer window, wether we are in the Premier league or championship

Some children need to step out of the sweet shop

[superdimitri]

Really annoying if we went for Barkley but couldn't convince him, exactly what we needed. I don’t get why you would pick rotting in Chelsea's reserves for another six months over premier league football, putting himself in the summer shop window in the process?
I guess it is too much hard work for him, same with Ramsey choosing to go to Scotland. Taken the easy way out. I suppose it is for the best if they weren't up for the challenge, but it is such a strange decision for a professional footballer to make! You think both would have jumped at the chance to play in the prem every week.

Probably because he can go out with his rich mates in London and get drunk more easily. Moving up here he'd have to travel longer with a hangover and make new mates to go out with in Manchester.

Ramsey - I'm sure it's just reputation and European football. We don't help ourselves by the type of football we play, hopefully gradually we can improve that by bringing in some creativity and get rid of that rep. Also, with Ramsey he would have to agree to a relegation release clause/wage drop. That's something I'm sure rangers don't bother with.

[BabylonClaret]

Right. We need to be looking for the positives here. As CT says, we have been close to securing far more points than we have now. We have games in hand - a lot. We have a lot more home games. We have been creating decent chances.

So all in all there's quite a bit to build on there.

We've shipped out a misfiring striker (although I don't think k that was our choice) and brought in a replacement (who I expect we might have been looking at anyway given Vydra's hernia and the need to freshen up the forward line).

Don't get me wrong, this has been the worst window for a long time - worse perhaps than the Summer of 2020 simply because we have seen that gutsy performances from Lennon won't really be enough and JGB and Cork have dropped off alarmingly this season. We really should have had some 2nd base backups (plenty been mentioned) for midfield.

But. We have enough cover and bodies. Cornet is back and we have a new player to freshen up the forward line. We looked more like it against Arsenal and (like against Chelsea) could even have nicked all 3.

Let's get behind the team, get the three points against Watford and start climbing the table again. All in our hands. We are almost there.

[Blatherwickstattoo]

The club can't conscript them if they don't wish to come

I understand this side of it too. But you don’t just scout players without knowing they wouldn’t be interested. You scout players you think would be affordable and willing.

We’ve made 13 million pound profit this window. It’s a joke we’ve not signed a midfielder of any calibre .

[thelaughingclaret]

with Ramsey he would have to agree to a relegation release clause/wage drop. That's something I'm sure rangers don't bother with.

Why would you have to have a relegation clause for a loan player?

[BabylonClaret]

The financial picture would look a dam site worse if we through the kitchen sink at the job like many of here expected us to. The reason why Sunderland, Bradford and Bolton are where they are today is because they didn't spend wisely.
We have done some great business with Wood and the Dutch lad which will give the club some extra leverage in the summer window, wether we are in the Premier league or championship

Hmmm. The financial.position in the Championship is something like 60 or 70m worse per annum. Nor saying we will go down here - still lots to play for - but we really needed more to give us a good boost

[arise_sir_charge]

Anyway, at least we beat Orient 34 and half years ago

[Pearcey]

Just driven 3 hours down to Kent to visit my parents. Have I missed owt?

Massively disappointing window but it sounds like we tried. I hope we now take the good feeling from Arsenal and push on. We have Roberts playing, Cornet back and Weghorst so that’s an improvement on what we had. If our centre halves can cut out the unforced errors and our strikers start scoring then we’ll be alright. Need to beat Watford now to lift the fans. COYC.

[Dazzler]

You scout players you think would be affordable and willing.

You missed out 'Good Enough'

[Vegas Claret]

Hendrick ended up going to QPR on loan

[Dano1bfc]

Not the greatest of windows !

However I honestly would have dropped Wood weeks ago. I’m glad Sean’s hand has been forced . He’s cost us points not gained them like he was supposed to .

I don’t think the club can be blamed for our 2nd main target not signing . Pace did everything possible .

It’s not fair comparing to the old owners who let’s be honest were only interested in the sale and profit. We are in debt and if we can squeeze another year in the money league it would be great. Honesty I think the prob is cash flow not actual indebtedness this window.

I’m impressed by the efforts of Mr Pace to get signings over the line . Higher calibre of signings … I don’t honestly believe they would have been in for players like Lansbury / Riorden like the old regime. They are here to move forward.

Sometimes to move forward u have to take a step back.

We ARE capable of picking the points up in this league to survive . We have played a lot of away games so far in comparison to those at home .

I don’t think Wel pick 40 points up this yr but I reckon 37 will be enough . There is some rubbish at the bottom of the league inc us .

The lads have no say in reinforcements, let’s get behind them .

It needs to rock on Saturday .

[NewClaret]

Best post of the thread Dano1bfc

[Dano1bfc]

Thank you .

Sometimes 1 player can make a massive difference like Alexander being moved to defensive midfielder in Coyles era.

This time our new striker looks a lot better on the ball than Wood whose touch was terrible imho. If he can bring others into play like McNeill and Cornet we may just have a chance.

This is controversial but personally I’m glad we didn’t loan Barclay / Ramsey they feel we are below them . I’d have shut the door instantly as soon as I heard this .

We are a proud club and they are nobody at the end of the day.

Again .. let’s get behind the lads.

[superdimitri]

Why would you have to have a relegation clause for a loan player?

I thought we were after signing him permanently.

[Dano1bfc]

Are we taking about Barclay or Ramsey on a perm deal?

In all honesty with the numbers involved it was never going to happen, it shouldn’t have happened for Rangers really . But it appears if u delete ‘Glasgow’ from your crest and start again with a huge advantage over the league u have to beat to gain promotion …Then you can do this. Just call yourself Rangers , and hang on to Celtic

[Dano1bfc]

Sick of the “start again clubs” taking advantage…
Leicester … prem champs . How can a champion take such an advantage as to have a clean slate?
Rangers … disgraceful . Wipe the history from the new club.
It’s going to go on and on … wiping clubs like Bolton, Bury, Derby off the map.
The EFL/Premier league is not fit for purpose and should be scrapped for the good of the game and FANS who actually own the game.

Clubs will close without money. Fans will create new clubs . Let that sink in …