Still 2 keepers on bench

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Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by BOYSIE31 » Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:51 pm

Why why why

Why not give a young lad that place

And speaking of youngsters we will have to be shut of Dyche for any to be given a chance

Old enough = good enough

Give some of them a run instead of the #### we keep watching

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by randomclaret2 » Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:09 pm

2 goalkeepers, 2 Right Backs and 3 Centre Backs

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by bfcjg » Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:16 pm

Even putting a younger player or two on the bench gives them and others hope .
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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:07 pm

Absolutely drives me mad when we stick 2 keepers on bench. Utterly pointless.

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by randomclaret2 » Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:22 pm

You wonder in what scenario Bardsley would have been brought on ?

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by warksclaret » Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:24 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:22 pm
You wonder in what scenario Bardsley would have been brought on ?
Bit like Prince Andrew

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:25 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:51 pm
Why why why

Why not give a young lad that place

And speaking of youngsters we will have to be shut of Dyche for any to be given a chance

Old enough = good enough

Give some of them a run instead of the #### we keep watching
Manchester United had two keepers on the bench on Friday (Grant & Heaton) and often do. A lot of Premier League clubs do. We only do it when we are down on numbers.

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by BOYSIE31 » Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:45 pm

Don't agree it's needed and pathetic really

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by claptrappers_union » Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:48 pm

Message to the board
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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:48 pm

Probably the very least of our worries. Like we’d ever bring on our 9th choice substitute.

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by ewanrob » Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:50 pm

Doesn't send out a great message to our youngsters does it..all very poor
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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:53 pm

ewanrob wrote:
Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:50 pm
Doesn't send out a great message to our youngsters does it..all very poor
Putting a youngster on the bench who isn’t good enough or hasn’t done enough to deserve a place on the bench doesn’t send out a great message either.
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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by ewanrob » Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:56 pm

So your saying we have U 18, 21, 23s and non of them cut it...then we do have a problem....isn't good enough"...are you seriously suggesting there isn't a young one who could give more than Stephens !

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:58 pm

ewanrob wrote:
Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:56 pm
So your saying we have U 18, 21, 23s and non of them cut it...then we do have a problem....isn't good enough"...are you seriously suggesting there isn't a young one who could give more than Stephens !
Presumably not, or they’d be in the match day squad.

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by ewanrob » Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:02 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:58 pm
Presumably not, or they’d be in the match day squad.
Then its a sad enditement of our club, and our Head coach.

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:03 pm

ewanrob wrote:
Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:02 pm
Then its a sad enditement of our club, and our Head coach.
It’s the reality of being a Premier League club with a less than equivalent academy.

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by BOYSIE31 » Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:04 pm

At the end of the day this manager doesn't do youth or loans

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:04 pm

indictment....

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by warksclaret » Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:05 pm

Even if someone Like Helm was never going to come on, being involved and around the squad is immense experience
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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by Claretitus » Sun Feb 06, 2022 8:00 pm

I don’t mind Lowton, not at all, but he couldn’t even be arsed warming up!!

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Feb 06, 2022 8:09 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:03 pm
It’s the reality of being a Premier League club with a less than equivalent academy.
Or a lack of quality coaches?
We have signed most of the U23s so it's not really to do with the academy.

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by IanMcL » Sun Feb 06, 2022 8:17 pm

ewanrob wrote:
Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:02 pm
Then its a sad enditement of our club, and our Head coach.
It is a reflection on the previous recruitment process and our ability to attract young, top of the pile recruits to the system.

However, we gmhave had success with bigger clubs cast offs, as they are often excellent players making way, as they will not reach the pinacle.

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Feb 06, 2022 8:19 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Sun Feb 06, 2022 8:17 pm
It is a reflection on the previous recruitment process and our ability to attract young, top of the pile recruits to the system.

However, we gmhave had success with bigger clubs cast offs, as they are often excellent players making way, as they will not reach the pinacle.
One success, Ian.

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by warksclaret » Sun Feb 06, 2022 8:26 pm

I know SD has proved to be a real guiding figure for our defenders such as Keane, Tarks and Mee. However where does the "creativity and attacking" coaching come from-or does it??. It may have an influence on how players like McNeil or Vydra play and develop. Or is it down to our bunch of players to progress this style of play themselves. A number of teams now employ attacking coaches, even set play coaches. I know all PL sides have at least one GK coach. Are we missing out in attack

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by dsr » Sun Feb 06, 2022 9:14 pm

The second goalkeeper is more likely to be needed than the eighth outfielder. It's possible to need to (and to be able to) replace the keeper twice in one game, but you can't replace more than four outfielders.

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by IanMcL » Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:31 am

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Feb 06, 2022 8:19 pm
One success, Ian.
Dunne reaped us £1 not long ago.

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by IanMcL » Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:32 am

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Feb 06, 2022 8:19 pm
One success, Ian.
Josh Benson another

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by Woodleyclaret » Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:57 am

We have the best goalkeeper coach in football Billy.Hes coaches two of our keepers into the England team
But why have we allowed Dwight to develop from 14 without coaching him to use both feet and who decided to play him wide right?
We need some new coaches at U23 and first team level.
Micheal Mellon would have made his first team debut at Liverpool or Man U regardless of his age.We don't follow the mantra if you are good enough you are old enough
Helm has to be better than Dale surely

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by helmclaret » Mon Feb 07, 2022 11:35 am

I appreciate the comment but I don't think I am better than Dale.

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by boatshed bill » Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:34 pm

I think SD does it to keep the 3rd choice 'keeper involved, which makes sense to me

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by Wuggawumphwumph » Mon Feb 07, 2022 3:06 pm

Sean being Sean

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Re: Still 2 keepers on bench

Post by IanMcL » Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:43 pm

I would play three at the back.


Hennessy. Pope. Norris.

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