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Weghorst

Post by Milltown1882 » Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:25 pm

1 goal in 8 so far, 2 assists.

And our fans were slating Wood for not scoring goals.
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Re: Weghorst

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:25 pm

He assisted against Man Utd.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by KRBFC » Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:26 pm

Did he not get the assist for Rodriguez against Man United, and the assist for Brownhill at Brighton?

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Re: Weghorst

Post by RVclaret » Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:26 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:25 pm
1 goal in 8 so far, 0 assists.

And our fans were slating Wood for not scoring goals.
1 goal 2 assists but apart from that good point ;)
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Re: Weghorst

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:26 pm

So 3 goal contributions in 8 games and one of our best players in every appearance.
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Re: Weghorst

Post by bfcjg » Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:27 pm

FFS.
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Re: Weghorst

Post by elwaclaret » Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:27 pm

Seems there is a hole in the net, oops! Get the waders on.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:29 pm

Apart from him making us much better as a whole, yeh you’re spot on .

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Re: Weghorst

Post by KRBFC » Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:29 pm

I think it's clear to see, he offers considerably more to the team than just goals. Work rate, creativity, link up. The assist stat doesn't show a true reflection, he's played a huge part in most of the goals scored since he's been here.

As for lack of goals, the team are still kicking the ball long, doesn't suit him or Cornet. How many good chances has he had? not many, was unlucky today with the clearance off the line.
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Re: Weghorst

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:29 pm

Aye, let's bring Wood back. :roll:

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Re: Weghorst

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:30 pm

Played a beauty of pass into McNeil on the break in the first half that McNeil then made a complete cock up of.

These balls into a channel for him to chase though are so painfully not working. Get it into his feet, get runners around him and he’ll find them.
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Re: Weghorst

Post by KRBFC » Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:30 pm

Palace away, did very well with the header from the corner, and stuck it in the net when presented a chance, not his fault Rodriguez was offside in the build up.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Burnley Ace » Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:31 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:25 pm
1 goal in 8 so far, 2 assists.

And our fans were slating Wood for not scoring goals.
and he’s still better than Wood. Perhaps it’s a sign of our desperation that supporters actually thought Wood was good?

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:31 pm

What a ridiculous thread!
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Re: Weghorst

Post by Goody1975 » Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:32 pm

He's not an out and out number nine.

Although not a mobile front line, he may have preferred to have played alongside Wood than most of the other options we currently have.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by RVclaret » Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:36 pm

Goody1975 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:32 pm
He's not an out and out number nine.

Although not a mobile front line, he may have preferred to have played alongside Wood than most of the other options we currently have.
I actually think he’d enjoy playing alongside Vydra the most, just like Wood did. The only striker we have that runs the channels and stretches teams backline. But Vydra has probably played his last game in a Burnley shirt unfortunately.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Vino blanco » Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:40 pm

The way passes the ball into space to claret shirts means he is our best midfielder to me. It’s a a shame that he, like Wood, Jayrod etc does not get the service he deserves.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by burnleymik » Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:41 pm

I can't remember him giving the ball away once, everytime he picks up the ball he makes a clever pass. You could see him getting more and more frustrated today when we were making the ridiculously silly mistakes. The long ball upto him isn't really working, we need him on the ball more, but into his feet.
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Re: Weghorst

Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:45 pm

I really hope we can keep hold of him if/when we drop, because he’d score 25+ goals in the Championship.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by BERNIEU » Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:48 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:31 pm
What a ridiculous thread!
You might as well copy that to your clipboard for this evening. It'll save you time.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by BuryClaret » Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:10 pm

He’s miles clear of Chris Wood, who it’s worth mentioning has also yet to score since joining Newcastle. What a stupid thread.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:15 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:29 pm
I think it's clear to see, he offers considerably more to the team than just goals. Work rate, creativity, link up. The assist stat doesn't show a true reflection, he's played a huge part in most of the goals scored since he's been here.

As for lack of goals, the team are still kicking the ball long, doesn't suit him or Cornet. How many good chances has he had? not many, was unlucky today with the clearance off the line.
we've played better football with Cork and Brownhill in the team, Westwood is obsessed with pinging it in the corners which is of no benefit to WW
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Re: Weghorst

Post by KRBFC » Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:25 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:15 pm
we've played better football with Cork and Brownhill in the team, Westwood is obsessed with pinging it in the corners which is of no benefit to WW
Agreed, baffling decision how Westwood waltzed back in, I assumed it was just a rest for Cork against Leicester but appears not

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Mayoclaret » Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:28 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:25 pm
1 goal in 8 so far, 2 assists.

And our fans were slating Wood for not scoring goals.
Didn't take you long then "Milltown 1882"..... thought you might have posted a bit sooner?

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Pommieclaret » Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:37 pm

Has Wood scored for Newcastle yet.... NO, "......argument over

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Re: Weghorst

Post by BERNIEU » Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:39 pm

Pommieclaret wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:37 pm
Has Wood scored for Newcastle yet.... NO, "......argument over
Genuine question as I don't know the answer. Has he assisted?

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Nonayforever » Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:42 pm

Dyche is employing a heart surgeon to knock a shed together.
He isn't a target man.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Bigvince » Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:59 pm

Another knee jerk thread, but 1 goal and 2 assists in 8 games. As opposed to Chris wood 0 goals 0 assists in 7 games! I think the difference between the 2 players is IMO WW links play far better than Wood
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Re: Weghorst

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Mar 05, 2022 9:02 pm

I'm not going to compare him to Wood, totally different kind of player. He's had some very good games for us, none more so than at Brighton, but I thought he was very poor today.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by nyclaret » Sat Mar 05, 2022 9:04 pm

It’s quite obvious WW is levels above Chris Wood. It’s just a shame we decided to hoof it rather than play to his strengths.
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Re: Weghorst

Post by bobinho » Sat Mar 05, 2022 9:08 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:25 pm
1 goal in 8 so far, 2 assists.

And our fans were slating Wood for not scoring goals.
Are you taking the ****?

Ok. So you ARE taking the ****.

Thais ain’t even close.

Goals for Chris Wood since joining Newcastle 0
Assists for Chris Wood since joining Newcastle. 0

Your point? Exactly. You don’t have one. ….

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Re: Weghorst

Post by BERNIEU » Sat Mar 05, 2022 9:13 pm

nyclaret wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 9:04 pm
It’s quite obvious WW is levels above Chris Wood. It’s just a shame we decided to hoof it rather than play to his strengths.
It begs the question... why?
To me it often looks because our defenders can't handle being pressed. They lack composure and so have to let loose upfield.

Give us space and we pass it around well and get it to feet.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Sat Mar 05, 2022 11:44 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:25 pm
1 goal in 8 so far, 2 assists.

And our fans were slating Wood for not scoring goals.
What a plank the OP is 🤣

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Swizzlestick » Sun Mar 06, 2022 1:40 am

Was feeding on scraps from an inept midfield. Played a wonderful sweeping ball to get an attack going. Need to play to feet not aimless launches.

And can we move on from Chris bloody Wood - he was a very good player for us. No goals or assists for NUFC but he's clearly doing something right as the team are picking up results while he's playing. Did very well for their first goals against Brighton. Just move on, he's gone.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by KRBFC » Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:52 am

Bigvince wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:59 pm
Another knee jerk thread, but 1 goal and 2 assists in 8 games. As opposed to Chris wood 0 goals 0 assists in 7 games! I think the difference between the 2 players is IMO WW links play far better than Wood
5 of those games against Man United, Spurs, Leicester, Liverpool and Chelsea too. Not easy games for a new striker with so little of the ball.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Quicknick » Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:07 am

Our best player.
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Re: Weghorst

Post by Boss Hogg » Sun Mar 06, 2022 9:09 am

Offers more in general play than Wood but I don’t think he will offer us as many goals as Wood did. He looks more use as a number 10 than a 9.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:32 am

Boss Hogg wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 9:09 am
Offers more in general play than Wood but I don’t think he will offer us as many goals as Wood did. He looks more use as a number 10 than a 9.
Different kind of player but I do think he'll struggle in this league with his lack of pace.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:37 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:32 am
Different kind of player but I do think he'll struggle in this league with his lack of pace.
He’s looked like he struggles a lot less than Wood did so far. I was a big believer in Wood but it’s clear to see that Weghorst is a far superior player IF we play to his strengths. He’ll struggle immensely if we keep pumping it into the channels. Even more so if he’s partnered with Jay who is equally slow.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:02 am

Iloveyoubrady wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:37 am
He’s looked like he struggles a lot less than Wood did so far. I was a big believer in Wood but it’s clear to see that Weghorst is a far superior player IF we play to his strengths. He’ll struggle immensely if we keep pumping it into the channels. Even more so if he’s partnered with Jay who is equally slow.
Why is it clear he's a better player. He's undoubtedly better in some parts of his game but then Wood is the better player in other areas. As for playing with Jay, I think he's looked a lot better alongside him than he has Cornet.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by RVclaret » Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:11 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:02 am
Why is it clear he's a better player. He's undoubtedly better in some parts of his game but then Wood is the better player in other areas. As for playing with Jay, I think he's looked a lot better alongside him than he has Cornet.
Interesting, before you said Weghorst’s best performance came against Brighton (where he played with Cornet for the majority).

I think it’s clear WW’s a far more technical player than Wood, links play a lot better and can perhaps count himself unlucky not to score another one or two. Out of interest, which areas do you think Wood is better?

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Re: Weghorst

Post by SalisburyClaret » Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:12 am

Weghorst has been terrific so far and as well as scoring and assisting, he has been our best central midfielder in many of his games. He’s been offered zero protection by some half witted referees and has always given 100%

All this against a background of moving to a new country, playing 2 games a week and not having a whole team drilled for a few seasons around giving him the ball where he wants it - as was the case with Wood

If you’re expecting him to walk in with a couple of instant hat tricks and all for £12m then I’ll have what you’re drinking

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Re: Weghorst

Post by jedi_master » Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:14 am

He’s far better with the ball at his feet than Wood, he’s also far worse with the ball on his head than Wood.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Jambounchained » Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:15 am

Absolutely ridiculous thread.

Certainly looks like he cares, who was he berating for a misplaced pass yesterday? Looked absolutely fuming.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:20 am

jedi_master wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:14 am
He’s far better with the ball at his feet than Wood, he’s also far worse with the ball on his head than Wood.
I'd certainly go with that

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Re: Weghorst

Post by DanH90 » Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:21 am

BERNIEU wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 9:13 pm
It begs the question... why?
To me it often looks because our defenders can't handle being pressed. They lack composure and so have to let loose upfield.

Give us space and we pass it around well and get it to feet.
This is the key point. We have so few players with any form of composure on the ball that when they get pressed they hoof it forward and have Weghorst (and Cornet when he’s up front) feeding on scraps in the air. This is the tactic Leicester employed on Tuesday to great effect.

Get a central midfielder a la Defour who can actually play the ball to feet with some composure and Weghorst will prove he is tonnes better than Chris Wood. Some of the posters claiming Wood is better are laughable. I also really don’t see the huge difference in terms of pace between Wood and Weghorst, Wood was hardly Usain Bolt.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Spijed » Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:22 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:20 am
I'd certainly go with that
For someone so tall he seems to be poor at winning the number of headers you would expect him to win.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:27 am

Being a few inches taller shouldn’t necessarily make someone better at heading. It gives them a height advantage but nothing else.

As for the comparison with Wood, which is a bit tedious but is obviously going to be discussed; Weghorst seems like a clear upgrade in almost every area. Crucially though it remains to be seen whether he will be an upgrade in the goalscoring department - but I think it’s likely his overall goal contribution will trump Wood’s.

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Re: Weghorst

Post by SalisburyClaret » Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:35 am

Goal scoring is unknown as yet but in every other department he’s way ahead. Just bigger, better, faster

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Re: Weghorst

Post by nyclaret » Sun Mar 06, 2022 1:25 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:32 am
Different kind of player but I do think he'll struggle in this league with his lack of pace.
Wood hasn't seemed to struggle in this league and he's not exactly rapid is he?

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