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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by BurnleyFC » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:22 pm

Both penalty decisions were correct for me.

Lousy, brain dead defending.
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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by KRBFC » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:22 pm

Absolutely shambolic half, way on top and 1-0 up then Westwood gives away a needless pen, what the **** was he doing? why did he stop running? just let the Everton kid nip in, so slow.

We've hoofed it all half, neither striker has chance of affecting the game at all, just so poor.
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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by PWBFC » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:22 pm

They're both penalties. Both went down easy but clear contact is there, we can't complain.
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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by Elizabeth » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:22 pm

Well it’s been a complete shambles since conceding the equaliser from the first penalty. Confidence visibly drained from every player.
The front two are asleep , and the two aged midfielders simply couldn’t get the right side of runners in our box.
How to cock upset a great start in one easy lesson.
These players owe us a massive performance this half and at this moment in time no one knows where the answer will come from. The bench?

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by Boss Hogg » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:22 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:16 pm
There’s no way Dyche will even survive this season at this rate.
He will. Pace and Co have been happy with what they are seeing which is why they have taken no action so far. It’s too late to do anything and who would come in now. They’ve resigned themselves to putting up with this tripe until next season. Don’t see the identity of this team now. I can’t think of one positive attribute it has.

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Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by Neil » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:23 pm

Second pen was stonewall and anybody saying different is kidding themselves. Absolute dross served up yet again. Aimless balls hoofed forward time and again and making Everton look like Man City in possession. Dead men walking.
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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by Vino blanco » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:23 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:13 pm
Every time we get in their box now just dive. If you can’t beat em join em.
Can you let me know when he have more than one man in their box (apart from corners).

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by RVclaret » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:23 pm

Both penalties for me. I’d be furious if either hadn’t been given for us. The lack of composure in our midfield is frightening. Brownhill in particular has been utterly woeful.

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by CnBtruntru » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:23 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:12 pm
Switched off! Utter sh1te!
Good job you didn't pay to watch it then.

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:24 pm

Scoreline is a fair reflection of the first half but as the first 10 and last 5 mins showed Everton are nervous and all over the place at the back.

A good second half performance and we easily have two goals in us but we cant afford anymore slip ups at the back. As for the pens, they were both clear fouls and you could tell at the time both Westwood and Lennon knew they'd f*cked up

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by SalisburyClaret » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:24 pm

2nd pen was def a pen
The first was naive from Westy but a clear dive
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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by Rowls » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:24 pm

Conroysleftfoot wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:13 pm
Don't think we can complain about either pen. Just poor defending.
First one is a clear penalty.

Mike Dean called the second one perfectly. He was perfectly placed and saw it in real time.

It's a dive. He contrives "contact" and dives. It's disgusting.

It only looks like a foul if you watch it in slow motion. Because it's a dive.

The VAR should hang their heads in shame. Just think of all the correct decisions they didn't have the guts to overturn because it wasn't "clear and obvious" error and they've gone and pressurized Dean into overturning a decision he called absolutely spot on in real time.
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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by scamander » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:24 pm

both penalties, see Westwood's reaction for the first. He turns around and his team mates just look back at him. Lennon was unlucky but if you are playing 50 yard balls into the channels for two forwards who aren't quick then really there isn't much to say.

And also against a team who are awful and missing several key players. Can't complain if we go down.

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by burnley007 » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:24 pm

Dyche has been found out this season.
Far too stubborn
Needs to play the form players, not his special favourites

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by Taffy on the wing » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:25 pm

bf2k wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:13 pm
Why?
He's completely shot.....his confidence is in the toilet, he NEVER stops a cross coming in, he is scared to even pass the ball. Time for Lowton.
Cork for Westwood too.

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:25 pm

superdimitri wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:18 pm
Plenty of times we've done that this season without conceding one but now we concede two you think it's not unlucky?
Maybe we were lucky on those occasions.
i'm waiting for someone to come up with the old "the game's rigged" type conspiracy theory any minute now ;)

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by KRBFC » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:25 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:21 pm
You’ve clearly never played football if that’s ‘hooked his standing leg’
Go watch it, it's a blatant penalty, what exactly is the argument? he kicked his standing leg, there's a reason Lennon doesn't complain
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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by NickBFC » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:25 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:22 pm
He will. Pace and Co have been happy with what they are seeing which is why they have taken no action so far. It’s too late to do anything and who would come in now. They’ve resigned themselves to putting up with this tripe until next season. Don’t see the identity of this team now. I can’t think of one positive attribute it has.
I honestly don't see any improvement next season at a level lower. Whole thing is massively stale. I'd give someone a few games this season to see what's required next year. It's a big rebuild job.

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by burnleymik » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:25 pm

That second, on the replays, was a clear dive. Dean got it right, then VAR changed his mind. Two soft penalties, but we have been the better team. The few times we got it down and played, we looked good, but still far far too many pointless balls lobbed into the channels.

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by tiger76 » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:26 pm

Boy we don't half shoot ourselves in the foot don't we, decent 15 mins, and we got an early goal, then once they got the 1st pen it's been one way traffic.

I long for the days when we could hold onto a lead, but that's fantasy right now.

Time for SD to earn his salary and get them bucked up 2nd half, Everton aren't great by any means, and we can cause them problems if we can return to the intensity of our opening spell, and not give anymore pens away.

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by superdimitri » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:26 pm

The game is just a shambles. Players just waiting to be touched so they can dive. What happened to trying to stay on your feet?

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:26 pm

whiffa wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:22 pm
Not going to believe you, that first penalty was never a f***ing penalty.

Which bit are you doubting? The initial grab of the neck/shoulder area or the clip of the heels?

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Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by warksclaret » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:27 pm

No complaints-Everton the better side. I think Everton realised after we had scored that we were disorganised and lacking any quality. Its given them immense confidence and belief and its showing

Sadly we are not playing like a side that wants to stay in the PL

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by KRBFC » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:27 pm

Can we pass the ball this half please? give our strikers chance to affect the game, why are we still wellying it onto the head of Weghorst? complete waste of everyones time, he cant header a ball
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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by Vino blanco » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:27 pm

It was good to our attacking right winger, Lenno, defending so well in the box for their second penalty: that’s what I call embracing the framework perfectly.

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by bf2k » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:28 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:25 pm
Go watch it, it's a blatant penalty, what exactly is the argument? he kicked his standing leg, there's a reason Lennon doesn't complain
To be fair we’re never complain…about anything

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by warksclaret » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:29 pm

Why can't the coaches get our players , particularly our two full backs and Westwood to pass to feet, rather than space. Be prepared for more "lumping it up the front" this half
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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by Tribesmen » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:29 pm

HT lets not carried away just as if we score the next goal anything can happen

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Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:30 pm

Shocking from Westwood to put his hands on Gordon in the box. Everton were rattled at the time , gave them the breather and goal they needed to settle - and Fromm there on in we’ve been an absolute disgrace. We deserve to go down this season , not words I ever wanted to say

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by Tricky Trevor » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:30 pm

I think they were both pens but will never work out how a player being pulled back by his shoulder and arm falls forward. Cuntortionist me thinks.
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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by bfcjg » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:31 pm

If we actually got the ball down in the box and ran at players we might get penalties, but oh no just hoof it in and hope. Sorry Sean times up.

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by jos » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:31 pm

jos wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:20 pm
How depressing.
But considering the problems Ukraine is having at the moment, I’m lucky this is my biggest concern.
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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by KRBFC » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:31 pm

id have Mcneil and Vydra on at half time for Jay and Lennon, pass the damn ball, maybe Vydra's movement will encourage that

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Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:31 pm

Why the obsession with Westwood he’s shite Dyche, get a clue

We started well but he has killed our momentum this half
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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by Vino blanco » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:32 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:24 pm
Dyche has been found out this season.
Far too stubborn
Needs to play the form players, not his special favourites
This season?!!!

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Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by thelifeofbrian » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:32 pm

just a game lads- worse things going on then losing a footie game

Burnley fan of 40 years but were not good enough and the decisions are going against us.

Lets prepare for the Championship and keep supporting the clarets.
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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by RVclaret » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:32 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:27 pm
Can we pass the ball this half please? give our strikers chance to affect the game, why are we still wellying it onto the head of Weghorst? complete waste of everyones time, he cant header a ball
We don’t have the ability to pass through the lines.

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Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by texasbrit » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:32 pm

as long as we play dyche hoof ball we are doomed
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Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by Hibsclaret » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:33 pm

I think the 2nd is more of a pen than the first one. The first one is just the type of pen that we never get.

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by RVclaret » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:33 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:31 pm
id have Mcneil and Vydra on at half time for Jay and Lennon, pass the damn ball, maybe Vydra's movement will encourage that
Lowton for me to get some crosses into the box

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by tiger76 » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:33 pm

This stat can't be correct surely can it?

Everton are the first team in Premier League history to score two penalties in the first half of an away game.

That's what the BBC are claiming, I find that hard to believe TBH.

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by Colburn_Claret » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:33 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:16 pm
He’s incredibly naive and looks like a rabbit in headlights. It’s not doing him any good. He will do well in the Championship I hope for us but we really should have started with Lowton.
Man Utd have loads of good players who look crap, playing in that team, in that system.
Roberts has shown many times, especially for Wales that he is an excellent player. He looks poor because he is playing in OUR team in OUR system. Going forward we have to rebuild a new team, around players like Roberts, Cornet, Weghorst, Collins, BUT we have to get rid of the dead wood, and change the way we play, or rather the way we don't play.

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:33 pm

Passing the football to each other on the floor might help us

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by whiffa » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:33 pm

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:26 pm
Which bit are you doubting? The initial grab of the neck/shoulder area or the clip of the heels?
https://streamja.com/em4rN

Watch it, I'm doubting the bit where he kicks his left leg backwards into Westwood. Just watch his left leg :lol:
I'm doubting the bit where he falls forward when has a hand graze his shoulder.

If you think that SHOULD be a penalty, then it's not the game of football I want to see - no matter what teams are playing. It's cheating.
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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by boyyanno » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:34 pm

PWBFC wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:22 pm
They're both penalties. Both went down easy but clear contact is there, we can't complain.
Think this is a fair summary, Westwood got caught in a crazy position and you can't get away with scrambling behind your man in that area.

Lennon tried the "long barrier" and caught the players foot for the second.

Correct decision on both. I'm not prepared to blame referee decisions on our woes, we deserve to go down.

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by ClaretLoup » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:34 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:24 pm
Dyche has been found out this season.

Needs to play the form players, not his special favourites


Who are these “form” players?

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by Masham Ale » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:34 pm

First was never a penalty imo. Would have liked to seen red look at monitor for that one. Never enough to take him down, ball going out, not an obvious error. Not sure his run up was legal either. Unfortunately goals change games and that’s what’s happened. Second was a pen. Unfortunate one for Lennon. We’re still in this. COYC

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Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by Vino blanco » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:35 pm

thelifeofbrian wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:32 pm
just a game lads- worse things going on then losing a footie game

Burnley fan of 40 years but were not good enough and the decisions are going against us.

Lets prepare for the Championship and keep supporting the clarets.
Quite right, I can’t wait for next season to see Westy and Brownhily knocking long hopeful balls forward for Barnsey, Lenno and Jay.

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by Elizabeth » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:36 pm

Composure and much more from our forwards needed. We can’t do anything about the old legs

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Re: Re: MIGHTY CLARETS versus Z Cars

Post by BurnleyFC » Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:36 pm

No changes :roll:

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