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Looks like a paparazzi type photo to me. Your mate seems to have a good lens/camera
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That's from 2017 with him arriving for a match against West Ham. On the sun's website.
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Why would it take so long for Burnley to get a work permit, when Man U announced Hag the day after he resigned at his old club.
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To get a work permit for Burnley you've to complete the Haffners and Black Pudding fried in bacon fat taste test.
Even 'Seany Long Time' had to go through it.
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Actually everyone including the admin have admitted they don’t really know what is going on or what the delay is if there actually is one, although still expect it to go through.pushpinpussy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 4:49 pmwhat i am gathering from reading this abhorrent thread, is that no one, even the admin of this site as a clue what's going on with VK and everyone including the admin is just embarrassingly pretending they do know.
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The “work permit” is just an excuse being used by many on here for the hold up. As each day passes by it is more unlikely that VK will become our next manager. If it was just the work permit, surely the club would have announced that VK has agreed in principle to become our manager, however we are just waiting now for his work permit?
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Anyone think the delay is related to the recent Ben Mee news? Perhaps Kompany didn’t want Ben… let’s face it, Ben could be seen by Kompany as a disruptive influence over some of the existing players… not that I think he would though
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It's funny...... you know, cos his name is Pace........ ahhhhhhhh you couldn't make it up.
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I think it’s more likely VK is holding off signing until he knows exactly what he is walking into.
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I think I agree. Man U would not have applied for a work permit 2 months before he left his old role because they would have been rejected. He had to actually be coming and have signed a contract for them to be able to apply.Jamesy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:35 amThe “work permit” is just an excuse being used by many on here for the hold up. As each day passes by it is more unlikely that VK will become our next manager. If it was just the work permit, surely the club would have announced that VK has agreed in principle to become our manager, however we are just waiting now for his work permit?
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Right now, it looks like he’s walking into the perfect **** storm.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:58 amI think it’s more likely VK is holding off signing until he knows exactly what he is walking into.
I’ve said before that I think bringing in someone like Kompany is a gamble, when promotion appears to be so important.
By the same token, it’s a bloody big gamble for someone with aspirations of a successful managerial career.
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I agree, that’s why I think he’s holding off until he knows exactly how big the job is. This will definitely have had an effect on VK, regardless of his intended on starting him etc… he’s an experienced pro that knows the league that would have been invaluable to VK.DCWat wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:16 amRight now, it looks like he’s walking into the perfect **** storm.
I’ve said before that I think bringing in someone like Kompany is a gamble, when promotion appears to be so important.
By the same token, it’s a bloody big gamble for someone with aspirations of a successful managerial career.
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I’m not sure on that - I’d have thought that he’d have been well aware, quite some time ago, of the likelihood of players leaving. Presumably which ones, too.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:18 amI agree, that’s why I think he’s holding off until he knows exactly how big the job is. This will definitely have had an effect on VK, regardless of his intended on starting him etc… he’s an experienced pro that knows the league that would have been invaluable to VK.
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Potentially, I assume that a lot of these discussions only happened with the players in the last week or so following relegation. I imagine the club wanted to know what league we were in prior to making a decision.
I think VK could very well be waiting for them player negations to be concluded before committing.
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Name the next manager:
Alan Pace
Alan Pace
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Be patient! I'm sure the club will keep us updated on the situation
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Like Al said when he first arrived - ‘why buy players when you can promote from youth?’
The same principle applies here - why have a manager when you can promote from within?
The same principle applies here - why have a manager when you can promote from within?
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Hopefully the club announce the manager very soon, if nothing it will stop the panic about Ben Mee leaving along with others . The negativity around us needs to come to a grinding halt quickly
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Which is in part why the silence from Pace is deafening.Hedontplayforyou wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:44 amHopefully the club announce the manager very soon, if nothing it will stop the panic about Ben Mee leaving along with others . The negativity around us needs to come to a grinding halt quickly
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And this is why I find it hard to believe the VK deal is just at the final work permit stage. If it was, they could announce it ‘subject to work permit approval’ - which is a formality. Like you said, the club really needs a bit of positivity now and if it was at that stage, I’m sure it would be out there.Hedontplayforyou wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:44 amHopefully the club announce the manager very soon, if nothing it will stop the panic about Ben Mee leaving along with others . The negativity around us needs to come to a grinding halt quickly
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It is at that stage.RVclaret wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:51 amAnd this is why I find it hard to believe the VK deal is just at the final work permit stage. If it was, they could announce it ‘subject to work permit approval’ - which is a formality. Like you said, the club really needs a bit of positivity now and if it was at that stage, I’m sure it would be out there.
It's not going to change over this weekend.
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How do you know?daveisaclaret wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:55 amIt is at that stage.
It's not going to change over this weekend.
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Silence before the storm?
I'm preparing myself for something dramatic as any straightforward statement now from Pace at this stage would not make sense to me. Something brewing?
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Aye, tea boy was let go last week so elevensies has been brought in under Pace’s remit.
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It's been obvious for a week.
I think the panic is just a dreadful case of people being terminally online. They'll announce it once it's confirmed, and it won't be getting confirmed while the people responsible for work permits are off work.
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Okay so you don't know, you're just going off what you've seen in reports.daveisaclaret wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:01 amIt's been obvious for a week.
I think the panic is just a dreadful case of people being terminally online. They'll announce it once it's confirmed, and it won't be getting confirmed while the people responsible for work permits are off work.
That's fine, I've seen the Nixon stuff too and he's sure it's at that stage/
But just to repeat, Conte, Ten Hag and Rangnick, three overseas appointments this season, were announced BEFORE work permits were accepted.
Work permits being accepted as seen as a formality now. With the club in a position where some positivity would be nice, if it was at the same stage as the aforementioned managers / announcements, why would it not already be out there?
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Man United and Spurs are massive PR operations and Burnley are poorly run. It'd be nice if we could be compared to that sort of club but reality isn't working out that way.RVclaret wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:04 amOkay so you don't know, you're just going off what you've seen in reports.
That's fine, I've seen the Nixon stuff too and he's sure it's at that stage/
But just to repeat, Conte, Ten Hag and Rangnick, three overseas appointments this season, were announced BEFORE work permits were accepted.
Work permits being accepted as seen as a formality now. With the club in a position where some positivity would be nice, if it was at the same stage as the aforementioned managers / announcements, why would it not already be out there?
Kompany is the new manager, you can spend the next few days worrying about it but the truth is in a month's time this will all be forgotten. It's even likely some of the people fretting now will be defending the owners against allegations of poor communication.
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Not sure why you're obsessing over what over clubs have done. Just because our board have (rightly or wrongly) taken a different approach there's no need to not expect the same outcome.RVclaret wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:04 amOkay so you don't know, you're just going off what you've seen in reports.
That's fine, I've seen the Nixon stuff too and he's sure it's at that stage/
But just to repeat, Conte, Ten Hag and Rangnick, three overseas appointments this season, were announced BEFORE work permits were accepted.
Work permits being accepted as seen as a formality now. With the club in a position where some positivity would be nice, if it was at the same stage as the aforementioned managers / announcements, why would it not already be out there?
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I for one think we should definitely adopt Manchester United’s approach to managerial appointments.
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All I’m suggesting is that it seems a bit counter intuitive. CT added yesterday he’d heard some ‘less so’ positive news following the previous days positive news. What could be negative if it’s at a stage of simply approving work permits?TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:11 amNot sure why you're obsessing over what over clubs have done. Just because our board have (rightly or wrongly) taken a different approach there's no need to not expect the same outcome.
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Why? Everything about Manchester United has been rancid for years now. Why would we announce a manager before his work permit was granted (if indeed that was the hold up) just because they did?
It’d be nice to know who is getting the job, but I don’t see why the club should have to announce something that could potentially go wrong.
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I was thinking maybe something stronger than tea
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But it's not only not updating us re the recruitment of a new manager is it?Rileybobs wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:20 amWhy? Everything about Manchester United has been rancid for years now. Why would we announce a manager before his work permit was granted (if indeed that was the hold up) just because they did?
It’d be nice to know who is getting the job, but I don’t see why the club should have to announce something that could potentially go wrong.
Communication from the club to the supporters re anything is virtually non existent
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There's nothing to say so the club aren't saying anything.
Simple really.
Simple really.
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I mean, it would be a hell of a lot better if the club announced he was joining pending a work permit. It's just not worth getting wound up because the club is choosing poor communication.
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No news from Pace as he doesn't want the same outcome as the Orsic shambles. Wait and see.
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Yes we are waiting…… and waiting…….and waiting…… zzzzzzzzzzzz.It Is What It Is wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 12:59 pmNo news from Pace as he doesn't want the same outcome as the Orsic shambles. Wait and see.
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Well at least we know that by applying for a work permit VK has been offered and accepted the job otherwise a work permit would never be granted.
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Another one in the talking sense corner - get out!
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I should point out the Athletic article announcing Ben Mee was leaving still stated we were still appointing VK.
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Do we know that they have applied for a work permit? I have heard a welter of rumours, but I wouldn't say I know anything. (About this subject, obviously. I know a bit about other stuff - the capital of France, the wives of Henry VIII, and such like. )
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But, in BFC's case it has always been about Lack of Pace. why should this be any different?dandeclaret wrote: ↑Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:54 amIt's funny...... you know, cos his name is Pace........ ahhhhhhhh you couldn't make it up.