Ash B., “refs want us relegated”

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Ash B., “refs want us relegated”

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat May 21, 2022 4:06 pm


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Re: Ash B., “refs want us relegated”

Post by Burnley Ace » Sat May 21, 2022 4:09 pm

Not saying anything that hasn’t been said before!!

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Re: Ash B., “refs want us relegated”

Post by Milltown1882 » Sat May 21, 2022 4:11 pm

He’s not wrong.
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Re: Ash B., “refs want us relegated”

Post by taio » Sat May 21, 2022 4:11 pm

Interesting he's referred to Friend's smugness after reviewing the monitor. Tosser.

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Re: Ash B., “refs want us relegated”

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sat May 21, 2022 4:11 pm

Not sure if this is s very clever or very dumb thing to be saying.
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Re: Ash B., “refs want us relegated”

Post by Winstonswhite » Sat May 21, 2022 4:13 pm

Perfect timing by Barnes. Ferguson, Klopp et al have been up to these tricks for years
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Re: Ash B., “refs want us relegated”

Post by Murger » Sat May 21, 2022 4:17 pm

Playing mind games. It's great to see.

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Re: Ash B., “refs want us relegated”

Post by EarbyClaret » Sat May 21, 2022 4:18 pm

I'd go with clever if he's planted the idea that the officials are showing what might generously be called unconscious bias

We can point to two marginal decisions in the last two games which have gone against us - both away from home too

Anything that gives us an edge tomorrow

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Re: Ash B., “refs want us relegated”

Post by Nori1958 » Sat May 21, 2022 4:20 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 4:13 pm
Perfect timing by Barnes. Ferguson, Klopp et al have been up to these tricks for years
Didn't work for Blackwell though

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Re: Ash B., “refs want us relegated”

Post by Rowls » Sat May 21, 2022 4:30 pm

This certainly wouldn't have got into the media when Dyche was in charge.

It's easy to sympathise with Barnes given the decision that went against him at Spurs and then for him to witness virtually the same thing go unpunished in front of his own eyes at Villa.

But will speaking to the press do in this manner do us any favours? The BBC are already using his comments to try and paint us as some kind of dirty side:
BBC Article wrote:"Burnley have had 67 yellow cards in the Premier League this season, the seventh most, plus two red cards."
You wouldn't imagine that we're actually the record-breaking side who went almost 3 complete seasons in a row without picking up a single red card would you? The previous record which had stood for almost three decades when the rules where a lot less stringent on red cards.

No mention, either, that one of those reds is currently being appealed and widely accepted to be extremely harsh.

But that's what happens when clubs like ourselves speak out in this manner.

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Re: Ash B., “refs want us relegated”

Post by dougcollins » Sat May 21, 2022 4:55 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 4:20 pm
Didn't work for Blackwell though
That always springs to mind in these circumstances. Though in his case, he was dim enough to criticise a specific referee who was about to officiate their most important game ever.

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Re: Ash B., “refs want us relegated”

Post by chekhov » Sat May 21, 2022 4:58 pm

Apparently he was lucky not to be sent off against Villa.

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Re: Ash B., “refs want us relegated”

Post by tiger76 » Sat May 21, 2022 5:04 pm

chekhov wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 4:58 pm
Apparently he was lucky not to be sent off against Villa.
No apparently about it he was lucky.

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Re: Ash B., “refs want us relegated”

Post by fatboy47 » Sat May 21, 2022 5:15 pm

I'm not sure it's the wisest thing to have done.

Kick one Premier League ref and they all limp.
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Re: Ash B., “refs want us relegated”

Post by eastcoastclaret » Sat May 21, 2022 5:24 pm

For Barnes to have said this in an interview suggests that the team feel there is bias against them. It could have a negative effect on the team, but equally if channeled correctly be a driving force to success.

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Re: Ash B., “refs want us relegated”

Post by chekhov » Sat May 21, 2022 5:49 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 5:04 pm
No apparently about it he was lucky.
So he punctures his own argument. I suppose it’s an inability to be dispassionate when you’ve got the club blinkers on. It’s called confirmation bias I think.

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Re: Ash B., “refs want us relegated”

Post by gandhisflipflop » Sat May 21, 2022 6:00 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 4:30 pm
This certainly wouldn't have got into the media when Dyche was in charge.

It's easy to sympathise with Barnes given the decision that went against him at Spurs and then for him to witness virtually the same thing go unpunished in front of his own eyes at Villa.

But will speaking to the press do in this manner do us any favours? The BBC are already using his comments to try and paint us as some kind of dirty side:



You wouldn't imagine that we're actually the record-breaking side who went almost 3 complete seasons in a row without picking up a single red card would you? The previous record which had stood for almost three decades when the rules where a lot less stringent on red cards.

No mention, either, that one of those reds is currently being appealed and widely accepted to be extremely harsh.

But that's what happens when clubs like ourselves speak out in this manner.
The BBC not letting facts get in the way of their own agenda? Never!

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Re: Ash B., “refs want us relegated”

Post by NewClaret » Sat May 21, 2022 6:07 pm

Suppose Ash is a tin foil hat conspiracy theorist????

Or just saying it as it is!

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Re: Ash B., “refs want us relegated”

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sat May 21, 2022 6:40 pm

Some of our friends on here have been saying for days there is no bias.

Seems like the players, not just I, disagree.

We ain’t going to get any favours tomorrow anyway. So a bit of focus on these refs can’t hurt. I actually think we have had some good decisions at home recently with obvious dives not given (since, not including, those cheats from Everton, the one who dives like Tom Daley and the one who they should never have been allowed to sign in the first place due to their losses).
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Re: Ash B., “refs want us relegated”

Post by Stayingup » Sat May 21, 2022 7:47 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Sat May 21, 2022 5:15 pm
I'm not sure it's the wisest thing to have done.

Kick one Premier League ref and they all limp.
Good word LIMP. Its what they are. Pathetic bunch mainly. Friends smirk was disgusting.

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