Pathetic

[RVclaret]

Some sensitive souls on here getting upset about a handful of fans showing their understandable frustration at the final whistle.

No wasn’t just the final whistle at all. It was throughout the game particularly with Muric.

[Silkyskills1]

Agree regarding the Fans, that crowd could turn toxic quickly in the next few weeks.

Genuinely shocked at how bad the crowd were

Well, you're easily shocked then. They were disappointed and so was I. But could turn toxic? Are you an expert on toxicity too?

[Silkyskills1]

I thought Taylor was absolutely awful today.

'Absolutely awful'. Not too sure about that but we are in agreement that Charlie looks distinctly uncomfortable a lot of the time. He's a left back who has played Premier league football for the last few years. I can fully understand that patience is required but we played some great football in the first half but failed to manage the game with 20 minutes remaining. Perhaps the manager thought we had it won when he made the changes but I believe he learned a harsh lesson today.

[jrgbfc]

I didn't hear any booing tbh. Although the groans and ironic cheers when Muric kicked it long were bang out of order, and I'd agree it's mainly the older generation.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Well, you're easily shocked then. They were disappointed and so was I. But could turn toxic? Are you an expert on toxicity too?

Clearly it must have been worse in certain areas of the ground.

Some are saying no booing for example.

Where I was sat today it was bad.

[forzagranata]

No wasn’t just the final whistle at all. It was throughout the game particularly with Muric.

I didn’t hear any booing during the game.

[Bin Ont Turf]

Oh shock horror, some fans boo after being 3-1 up and letting it slip.

BOOOOO!

[RVclaret]

I didn’t hear any booing during the game.

Their manager said you could feel the anxiety in the stadium every time the ball went back. That anxiety came from fans shouting and jeering Muric. Maybe not ‘booing’ but just as bad.

[Boss Hogg]

No booing but thousands probably cheered when Muric kicked it long ( and that’s all age groups) . That’s not booing it means the crowd wanted it kicking long sometimes. That’s vastly different from booing or shouting for him to be hauled off.

[jrgbfc]

No booing but thousands probably cheered when Muric kicked it long ( and that’s all age groups) . That’s not booing it means the crowd wanted it kicking long sometimes. That’s vastly different from booing or shouting for him to be hauled off.

Tbf ironic cheers aren't great. I'm sure it didn't exactly help Muric's confidence.

[Stevie Morgan]

I didn’t hear any booing during the game.

I did. Not much, but there was.

[Teddy]

Two older men behind me were giving Muric some right stick, totally out of order, and the sarcastic claps when he cleared were embarrassing. I did have a smile when others nearby then started to overpraise him quite pointedly!

[alwaysaclaret]

Excellent post. Completely agree with your summary at the end and I said the same on the Muric thread. Soon as started hitting it long we lost all control.

Fully agree and absolutely buy in to what vk is trying to do, but there comes a time when you have to launch it, can't be playing around with 5 players swarming all over you. I get that vk wants the defence and midfield to create space and come for ball, but we had the game won and the 3 points is paramount irrespective of the system and the 3 points were ours, we simply committed hari cari, firstly by subbing our main threat "jrod and tella" yes I get jrod needs protecting to an extent because he's our only true no9 and he's running out of a bit of steam and is a bit injury prone, but on 60 minutes ? And tella is a kid, he can surely last 80. Vk has to learn from today surely.

[Flying Without Ings]

Probably the same fans who complained about the Dyche direct/long balls style of play who now complain about Kompany’s style.

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

[clarethomer]

Fans need to unlearn the Dyche approach to football.

It’s not how VK wants us to play.

[BurnleyFC]

Their manager said you could feel the anxiety in the stadium every time the ball went back. That anxiety came from fans shouting and jeering Muric. Maybe not ‘booing’ but just as bad.

That anxiety came because the ball went back to Muric and the way he plays.

[CrosspoolClarets]

I didn’t hear much booing, some standard grumbling at the end, but we threw away a 2 goal lead in a derby.

I really think that we are close, but that faffing about at the back was farcical because we had already drawn in their attackers so needed to then pass through them, not carry on giving ourselves 5 yard passes under pressure. It’s like they have to learn when to do it and when not in this division.

We were also a little lacking in leaders when it got hairy, nobody hid but there was an element of panic. So there were some very pleasing and very concerning signs in equal measure, I agree some fan frustration was OTT but pathetic os a bit OTT itself as an adjective.

[Swizzlestick]

The OP is a slight overreaction. I don’t like the ironic cheers nor do I want to hear too much groaning but come on - we’ve let a team who we were dominating back in the game through avoidable mistakes and we’ve let a two goal lead slip twice in a derby. I heard no booing tbh but if you’re expecting folk to clap politely after that, then a reality check is needed.

[Granny WeatherWax]

Not read all the thread so it’s probably been said, but the ‘fans’ who cheered when Muric started knocking it long need not to come again. Absolutely horrific support, which will do absolutely nothing at all to help this 5 game old team develop.

[bodge]

Think the Tella substitution was as a result of the knock he took at the end of the first half, he had an ice pack on his calf at the end of the game.

Otherwise i would hope that he would have stayed on longer.

[Elizabeth]

Muric's distribution was very poor today and it didn't surprise me that the crowd expressed their concern when he had the ball at his feet.
On the big plus side he made some very good saves to prevent what would have been for me a demoralising defeat today.
Overall while a disappointing result from 3-1 up , there was much to be positive again

[dougcollins]

Not read all the thread so it’s probably been said, but the ‘fans’ who cheered when Muric started knocking it long need not to come again. Absolutely horrific support, which will do absolutely nothing at all to help this 5 game old team develop.

Couldn't agree more. Its gonna get really awkward at TM if that continues.

Perhaps they could re-run some SD games from last season in the Fanzone to keep those people entertained?

[Top Claret]

Only booing I heard today was when Blackpool took the knee

[Rileybobs]

Some of the jeering was embarrassing. Only heard a few boos at full time, heard more people booing Blackpool’s taking the knee which was more disappointing.

[ashtonlongsider]

Sorry, didn't hear any booing where I was in the BL and I stayed to the bitter end and clapped the team off.

[DanH90]

I was in the JM Lower and there was definitely booing, not jeering, not grumbling but booing. Fairly audible from where I was.

[Rileybobs]

I was in the JM Lower and there was definitely booing, not jeering, not grumbling but booing. Fairly audible from where I was.

FYI, when I mentioned jeering I mean towards Muric every time he played a long pass.

[arise_sir_charge]

Watched on a stream but the ironic claps and cheers for Muric hoofing it where very noticeable and as said above all pretty pathetic.

[claretspice]

The crowd did get restless today, probably a bit too easily.

But - I do think it’s a two way street. Kompany himself has said this evening that we should have adapted to the Blackpool press in the second half by going longer (not long balls, but longer passes). Muric was guilty on several occasions of not only playing short to players marked and facing their own goal - but doing so with passes that forced them onto their wrong foot. At that point, the percentages aren’t with the potential benefits of playing out from the back - it’s just gratuitous risk. Muric is old enough and has a responsibility to know better. Cork and THB both had a word with him after one particularly daft example after the opening goal - yet it persisted into the second half.

We don’t want to stifle the style of play and the role of the keeper in that but we do need the players to show a bit of common sense in applying the principles, and if they don’t then the fans will get restless.

[Rileybobs]

The crowd did get restless today, probably a bit too easily.

But - I do think it’s a two way street. Kompany himself has said this evening that we should have adapted to the Blackpool press in the second half by going longer (not long balls, but longer passes). Muric was guilty on several occasions of not only playing short to players marked and facing their own goal - but doing so with passes that forced them onto their wrong foot. At that point, the percentages aren’t with the potential benefits of playing out from the back - it’s just gratuitous risk. Muric is old enough and has a responsibility to know better. Cork and THB both had a word with him after one particularly daft example after the opening goal - yet it persisted into the second half.

We don’t want to stifle the style of play and the role of the keeper in that but we do need the players to show a bit of common sense in applying the principles, and if they don’t then the fans will get restless.

Agree entirely. There’s also managing the situation. We gave a needless corner away with just 2 minutes of the first half remaining by faffing about unnecessarily.

[KRBFC]

Oh shock horror, some fans boo after being 3-1 up and letting it slip.

BOOOOO!

Fans were on the back of Muric when we were 3-1 up, how does that help anyone? ironic cheering when he kicked it long.

[dandeclaret]

That's a Cullen mistake. That's where he's supposed to take the ball and play, but his body shape was all wrong to receive the ball.

[Granny WeatherWax]

The crowd did get restless today, probably a bit too easily.

But - I do think it’s a two way street. Kompany himself has said this evening that we should have adapted to the Blackpool press in the second half by going longer (not long balls, but longer passes). Muric was guilty on several occasions of not only playing short to players marked and facing their own goal - but doing so with passes that forced them onto their wrong foot. At that point, the percentages aren’t with the potential benefits of playing out from the back - it’s just gratuitous risk. Muric is old enough and has a responsibility to know better. Cork and THB both had a word with him after one particularly daft example after the opening goal - yet it persisted into the second half.

We don’t want to stifle the style of play and the role of the keeper in that but we do need the players to show a bit of common sense in applying the principles, and if they don’t then the fans will get restless.

We’re 5 games in with 13 new players. There’s absolutely no reason that we should be getting restless. I’m fuming about the reaction of some today.

[Darnhill Claret]

When Blackpool took the knee, some of ours joined them in solidarity. Why are ignorant people booing. Everyone has a right to make a stand or a kneel against ‘discrimination in all its forms’. Their has been no alignment to Black Lives Matters for a couple of years now which make some posters protestations about said group so out of date.

The ones that are booing Muric are equally out of touch with VK’s attempts to play a different Burnley way.
He has said from day one that it will take time. I like the way that the squad is progressing. Let VK decide if he wants to change or slightly amend some things. With hindsight it might be worth considering hitting it long if the goal kick comes back to Muric twice in a short space of time. It’s important that the back line make angles so that Muric has better options. He has shown he can pick a pass. Blackpool have already shown this season that they play until the final whistle.
In possession, going forward we are doing very well. When we are attacked down the flanks, we need to improve our defending. That is what training is for. Vincent and his team will be all over it trying to improve. Will our booing fans be attempting to improve their level of support, you know those that claim to support the players unconditionally.

[Granny WeatherWax]

Fans were on the back of Muric when we were 3-1 up, how does that help anyone? ironic cheering when he kicked it long.

Utterly embarrassing. People in front of me literally spitting every time he got the ball shouting at him to boot it.

Gonna bring some of those chair covers they use for persistent standers next week.

[Goody1975]

Plenty of people around me shouting 'get rid of the f***ing thing' twice in the second half when Muric played the ball short and we attacked at pace and probably should have scored, once definitely through Maatsen.

Sometimes it will go wrong but there are far more positives to what Muric does with the ball than the couple of errors today.

[KRBFC]

Utterly embarrassing. People in front of me literally spitting every time he got the ball shouting at him to boot it.

Gonna bring some of those chair covers they use for persistent standers next week.

We're 3-1 up comfortable and our fans are getting on the backs of our defenders and GK, just created absolute panic for no reason.

[Granny WeatherWax]

Plenty of people around me shouting 'get rid of the f***ing thing' twice in the second half when Muric played the ball short and we attacked at pace and probably should have scored, once definitely through Maatsen.

Sometimes it will go wrong but there are far more positives to what Muric does with the ball than the couple of errors today.

They’ve not got a clue, same people were cheering when he kicked it semi long in the 2nd half, but it was completely scripted as we’d passed it between centre halves and then Muric’s ‘long’ pass beat the Blackpool press. Thick as mince.

[Goody1975]

Utterly embarrassing. People in front of me literally spitting every time he got the ball shouting at him to boot it.

Gonna bring some of those chair covers they use for persistent standers next week.

All I could hear at half time was people whining about Muric rather than the great attacking display they'd just witnessed.

Just wow.

[claretspice]

That's a Cullen mistake. That's where he's supposed to take the ball and play, but his body shape was all wrong to receive the ball.

I don’t agree Dan - his body shape is I think a result of receiving the ball, to his surprise,fired in at his left foot. It’s just not the position to give him the ball on his weaker foot.

[BurnleyFC]

Plenty of people around me shouting 'get rid of the f***ing thing' twice in the second half when Muric played the ball short and we attacked at pace and probably should have scored, once definitely through Maatsen.

Sometimes it will go wrong but there are far more positives to what Muric does with the ball than the couple of errors today.

Honestly, I don’t get this.

It’s not as if he’s playing defence splitting passes like Allison does for Liverpool. He’s literally knocking it ten or twenty yards, and looks really shaky a lot of the time doing this, picking out the wrong pass which puts us under immediate pressure.

You cannot make the mistakes he makes with the position he plays on the pitch. It’s unforgivable.

[BurnleyFC]

I don’t agree Dan - his body shape is I think a result of receiving the ball, to his surprise,fired in at his left foot. It’s just not the position to give him the ball on his weaker foot.

Spot on.

It was a bonkers pass to even attempt.

[forzagranata]

City trained Muric to be a copy of Ederson.

He didn’t make the grade, so they flogged him.

He is a poor man’s Ederson and we are stuck with him.

[dougcollins]

Seems to me the point when Muric starts to play it long we lose possession of the ball for longer periods and Blackpool score twice.

But it's OK, as the ironic cheering brigade got what they wanted.

[AlargeClaret]

No boos on JHL and and apart from a rather mutual ground wide grumble any boos must have been counted on one hand

[paulatky]

This team has many failings and I think we have been found out but any booing is wrong.
Will be a long long season with many frustrations.
If we can stay up this season that will be a success

[arise_sir_charge]

City trained Muric to be a copy of Ederson.

He didn’t make the grade, so they flogged him.

He is a poor man’s Ederson and we are stuck with him.

Poor man’s Ederson.

That will do me!

[Targetman]

I don’t agree Dan - his body shape is I think a result of receiving the ball, to his surprise,fired in at his left foot. It’s just not the position to give him the ball on his weaker foot.

I don't think Cullen was surprised to receive the ball because he was shouting at Muric to pass it to him. Cullen wanted the ball but then turned and played it against the Blackpool forward who was closing him down.

Always a dangerous pass to play from the goalkeeper to Cullen who was immediately under pressure but Cullen did want the ball.

[claretspice]

He wanted the ball, but not on his left foot. But Muric is also better placed to judge the pressure Cullen is under. He has less risky passes on and he should use them. If he must use Cullen, he has to get the weight of the pass right so Cullen doesn't have to take a touch.

[Bin Ont Turf]

Fans were on the back of Muric when we were 3-1 up, how does that help anyone? ironic cheering when he kicked it long.

I was quite obviously replying to the OP about booing at the final whistle, but since you asked.......

We had nearly 18,000 home fans today and not 18,000 Pep Guardiola clones.
There's not a football fan on the planet that "enjoys" it when their goalkeeper is passing it about at the back, in tight areas, doing shimmies etc etc.

Of course getting on his back for doing what he's told to do is not helpful, and some will have to get used to it.

There's a time and place for it though, and cruising at 2-0 is a time when we don't need to bring unnecessary pressure on ourselves.