Match Thread - Burnley v Stoke.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:45 pm

So dropped 4 points in the last two games when we should have closed the game out .

Hummmm not sure what to say .

Cooclaret · Post by **Cooclaret** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:45 pm

Roberts needs to go and quickly. He’s absolutely bobbins!

RickyBobby · Post by **RickyBobby** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:45 pm

Top priority for January has to be an experienced centre half. We are far too naive.
Also Tella is like a dog with a balloon

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:46 pm

Ref was by far their best player

scamander · Post by **scamander** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:46 pm

Teams which play us now have a template. Let us have the possession, play nice triangles in the safe areas and don't fall for the bait of noving out of position. In short do to us what we have done to other teans for several seasons.

They know at some point we'll cough up possession or make a mistake as we push everyone forward. They just need to take the opportunity.

We can have the ball for 89 minutes and create 3 chsnces but the stats look good. They equalise in the short time they have.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:47 pm

Cooclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:45 pm
Roberts needs to go and quickly. He’s absolutely bobbins!

We would have lost if Bobbins hadn’t scored

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:47 pm

**** performance, flat as ****

Robbo1882 · Post by **Robbo1882** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:47 pm

We look pedestrian.
We don’t get enough crosses in the box
Muric looks static and doesn’t command the area.
The defenders look like they don’t have any faith in the goalkeeper.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:47 pm

We must get Beyer and Taylor into the same defence.

We’re not good enough defensively at the moment and it needs sorting. I want to see VK learn from this back to back disappointment and play his best defenders.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:47 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:40 pm
Our biggest issue this season is keeping a clean sheet.

It’s got to be Kompanys number one priority. If it’s not resolved we will have a mediocre season

No.
Our biggest issue is not scoring a second goal.

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:47 pm

That's at least 8 points lost in the last few minutes...

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:48 pm

Ultimately there was a 20-30 minute period in that first half where we were playing the ball with a lot more zip and looking very good, unfortunately we created no clear cut chances during that spell.
Sums us up as a whole, dominating for long periods but not turning the screw quite enough.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:48 pm

Unbelievable- that counts as a loss for me against a side thrashed 4-0 at home v Watford only a few days ago. You can smell the lack of belief in the defence when you get to within 10 minutes of full time. The question has to be one of mentality within the players. A big challenge for the coaches. We are becoming very easy to contain and break against in what is a very poor Championship

Elbarad · Post by **Elbarad** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:48 pm

amazing we always let them score in the last 5 minutes. So frustrating.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:48 pm

Groundhog Day again, and it's becoming more than annoying now, we would be top of this league if we stopped giving late goals away.

The only good news is I had 1-1 on the prediction game, just had a bad feeling about tonight, and sadly I've been proven correct.

Easy to blame the defence, however if we can't put games to bed teams will always fancy their chances of notching against us alas.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:49 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:47 pm
No.
Our biggest issue is not scoring a second goal.

It’s just simply not.

We score two, they will just score two.

Defence getting sorted and started to keep clean sheets is critical

Pommieclaret · Post by **Pommieclaret** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:49 pm

I make it 10 points which includes the debacle against Blackpool.
Preston 2pts goalkeeper slip
WBA 2pts Roberts non clearance
Cardiff 2pts bad defending
Stoke 2pts bad defending

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:50 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:49 pm
It’s just simply not.

We score two, they will just score two.

Defence getting sorted and started to keep clean sheets is critical

Yep, because we are always drawing 2-2.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:50 pm

Utter rubbish again. Stoke will do well not to be relegated and we can’t beat ‘em. Gets to last 5 mins and it is total panic stations.

jen1066 · Post by **jen1066** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:50 pm

Cooclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:45 pm
Roberts needs to go and quickly. He’s absolutely bobbins!

He scored......

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:51 pm

Belgianclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:47 pm
That's at least 8 points lost in the last few minutes...

It is becoming a worrying trend isn't it.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:52 pm

I'm amazed at the impatience of some of our supporters.
take a long look at yourselves, this is a team in its development stages with lots of work that needs doing.
Some of you sound like spoiled brats...grow up FFS.

Ampth7 · Post by **Ampth7** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:52 pm

Another frustrating result and Stoke have strangled a draw from very little! I believe the term is ‘we were robbed’!

The margins are so small at this level and we have simply got to stop conceding soft late goals otherwise we won’t challenge at the top end of the table. Lots of positives though and hopefully we will learn quickly!!

Pommieclaret · Post by **Pommieclaret** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:52 pm

Back4
Lowton TBH Beyer Taylor

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:52 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:49 pm
It’s just simply not.

We score two, they will just score two.

Defence getting sorted and started to keep clean sheets is critical

Hello again Newcastle. I wondered what had happened to you as you didn’t post when when we were winning?

If we’d scored two tonight would stoke have simply scored two as well?

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:52 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:50 pm
Yep, because we are always drawing 2-2.

Nope we are drawing everything because it doesn’t matter the score we can’t stop conceding.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:53 pm

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:50 pm
Utter rubbish again. Stoke will do well not to be relegated and we can’t beat ‘em. Gets to last 5 mins and it is total panic stations.

Stoke will be nowhere near relegation.

However I do tend to agree with your final sentence, it all gets a bit panicky in the final 5, no idea why as we had full control of the game.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:53 pm

Maybe if we didn’t **** around with the ball for the sake of it, we might actually score more than 1 goal.

ClaretinJapan · Post by **ClaretinJapan** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:53 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:43 pm
Far, far too much passing, not enough balls into the box. It’s getting too repetitive now, VK isn’t learning.

Hope he doesn't resort to Anderlecht type "team talks" as seen on YouTube. Must be getting frustrated.

Cooclaret · Post by **Cooclaret** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:53 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:47 pm
We would have lost if Bobbins hadn’t scored

We would have won if he’d done his job

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:54 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:52 pm
Hello again Newcastle. I wondered what had happened to you as you didn’t post when when we were winning?

If we’d scored two tonight would stoke have simply scored two as well?

For the record I did actually. You must have missed it.

We are one of the top scorers in the league, scoring goals is not our problem. Keeping clean sheets is our biggest problem. I don’t really know how anyone can debate that

Pommieclaret · Post by **Pommieclaret** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:55 pm

Stop trying to keep everyone happy play the best team and stick to it!!!!

Cooclaret · Post by **Cooclaret** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:55 pm

jen1066 wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:50 pm
He scored......

And? His job is to defend and to link play as an inside fullback, he’s awful at both.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:55 pm

Cooclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:53 pm
We would have won if he’d done his job

Yep all his fault obviously

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:56 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:54 pm
For the record I did actually. You must have missed it.

We are one of the top scorers in the league, scoring goals is not our problem. Keeping clean sheets is our biggest problem. I don’t really know how anyone can debate that

We have issues at both ends of the pitch.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:56 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:53 pm
Stoke will be nowhere near relegation.

However I do tend to agree with your final sentence, it all gets a bit panicky in the final 5, no idea why as we had full control of the game.

Goalkeeper 23 years old.
Centre-backs 20ish.

I have to say i was surprised when Cork got subbed (unless it was a knock)

But more surprised at how Brownhill got MOM.

Tuddybfc · Post by **Tuddybfc** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:56 pm

22 21 20 17 15

Not just a random assortment of numbers, the positions of teams we’ve managed to draw to. Might as well turn off games as soon as we go 1-0 up these days

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:57 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:54 pm
For the record I did actually. You must have missed it.

We are one of the top scorers in the league, scoring goals is not our problem. Keeping clean sheets is our biggest problem. I don’t really know how anyone can debate that

We also have the 4th best defence in the league (goals against). It’s a bit of a conundrum. I think scoring goals and not building a gap is a problem. We had enough openings in the 2nd half to score a second. But you are right, obviously, that we aren’t keeping enough clean sheets.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:57 pm

**** wet through, thoroughly ****** off and readying myself for a 2.5 hour return home in terrible weather.

Absolute **** and it’s becoming the norm, we were all just waiting for the sucker punch in the stands as we passed it around in our aimless, ‘attractive’ manner rather than having the ambition to kill them off.

Tella - hang your head in greedy shame at not laying it off when free in the box as well. Bloody knew it would cost us.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:57 pm

Murger wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:56 pm
We have issues at both ends of the pitch.

I don’t think that’s true. There’s two teams that have scored one more goal than us and that is it.

Defence and keeping clean sheets is definitely our biggest issue

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:58 pm

Our defence is arguably the weakest in the league when it comes to defending crosses.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:58 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:54 pm
For the record I did actually. You must have missed it.

We are one of the top scorers in the league, scoring goals is not our problem. Keeping clean sheets is our biggest problem. I don’t really know how anyone can debate that

No you're right, you don't know how to debate.

If we scored 5 they'd simply just score 5 too.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:58 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:47 pm
No.
Our biggest issue is not scoring a second goal.

This this this!!

A goal can come out of nothing. We need to put games to bed.

dvalley69 · Post by **dvalley69** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:58 pm

Incredible that a team that plays possession-based football, and is pretty bloody good at it, can't keep hold of it when in the lead and just see out a game!!!

Dingo · Post by **Dingo** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:58 pm

We were excellent tonight. Always disappointing to concede so late but that’s football. Another point closer to the top and another game unbeaten. It feels like we’re close to consistently winning. Onwards to Coventry.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:58 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:57 pm
We also have the 4th best defence in the league (goals against). It’s a bit of a conundrum. I think scoring goals and not building a gap is a problem. We had enough openings in the 2nd half to score a second. But you are right, obviously, that we aren’t keeping enough clean sheets.

The problem isn’t the number of goals conceded it’s the goals per game. The problem is every game we are now having to score two just to win. That is just simply not sustainable unless you are Man City

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:59 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:54 pm
For the record I did actually. You must have missed it.

We are one of the top scorers in the league, scoring goals is not our problem. Keeping clean sheets is our biggest problem. I don’t really know how anyone can debate that

I'd argue we're struggling at both ends of the pitch, the Wigan game and 45 mins against Blackpool really boost that Goals For column.

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:59 pm

We play far too much aimless football rather than going for the jugular, then gifting soft goals every game we set up the same, be the same on Saturday but Taylor will be in for beyer, and maatson for vitinho

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:59 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:58 pm
No you're right, you don't know how to debate.

If we scored 5 they'd simply just score 5 too.

If this was under any other poster you would be agreeing haha

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:59 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:58 pm
The problem isn’t the number of goals conceded it’s the goals per game. The problem is every game we are now having to score two just to win. That is just simply not sustainable unless you are Man City

Yet we are clearly set up to win??